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800 is only possible with more FUD, and i doubt that. But a lot of people stept in around 800 so maybe everyone is trying to abandon ship hen we go down below 1000 EUR. Only thing that we can do is wait. 1000 EUR is not going to hold as it look right now, bulls dont have the muscle anymore and have already bought other dips.

We can see that the market drops have changed. No flash crash anymore, but non stop decline with bounce backs from bulls and other risk seekers. A dip is easy to make profit with, but this.. Dont buy in too early !

default setting for BU is 1MB

I'm signalling to miners that I'm ready for bigger blocks by running a node which permits up to 16 MB today.

Where are you getting your info from friend?
I said $725 as york780 said he is predicting but now I see him saying 900EUR which is over $1000. So I don't know where he is pulling these numbers from.
And now people are taking about splitting it just like ETH did with the ETClassic crap but with BU?
This is madness.
 

There is already several 10s of thousands transactions waiting for confirmation at most times. As you said, the chaos of a contentious hard fork would possibly increase transaction rates for a time (there will definitely be a lot of people disassociating their bitcoins coins from BUtcoins, which requires transactions). Also, there is the potential for additional spam attacks on both chains. I expect that should BU fork, they will go with the default size of 16 MB at first, just because who changes default settings? I fully expect those BU blocks to be full for a long time (they may even increase soon because of that, I mean, that is their MO). That means, in 60 days the BU chain will have doubled the size of the existing 8 year old chain, plus some.

Just something to ponder.

7) Even if in that scenario it seems that BU would be at an advange with its increased TPS over BTC, that will lead to more BUcoins arriving at the exchanges and being dumped by BTC supporters. The price of BUcoin will be much lower than BTC, at least for some time (days, weeks, months, maybe forever).

This is madness.

Looks like we are going for sub 800$, thank you BU FUD for cheap coins

I am a bit surprised that noone has mentioned one of the consecuences a split between CORE and BU would have, apart from the AMAZINGLY HUGE volatility lower combined price etc...

1) If Bitcoin is split in two, core side will be at 1MB max block size at that time, and BU with an undetermined but bigger max block size.

2) Both "parties" will start dumping each other strongly. Chaos will reign and volatility could be so huge as to wipe ENTIRE order books up and down. (mainly down, even to 0).

3) All leveraged positions will be wiped on the peaks and valleys.

4) The difficulty will be much higher than the hashrate which, by itself, will create big delays between blocks. It is uncertain how big though.

And this is what I haven't seen anyone mention:

5) There will be a huge spike in transactions with people sending his coins to the exchanges. And I mean an unprecedently HUGE number of transactions. Orders of magnitude higher than anything we have ever seen.

6) Core with its 1MB max block and difficulty over hashrate combined will take ages to move the coins (which is not that bad because there will be less BTC coins arriving at the exchanges to be dumped), BU blocksize...well, I am not sure what it will do in that scenario, but it is possible that it will lead to additional hard forks/blocksize adjustment. Also Orphan blocks will be everywhere.

7) Even if in that scenario it seems that BU would be at an advange with its increased TPS over BTC, that will lead to more BUcoins arriving at the exchanges and being dumped by BTC supporters. The price of BUcoin will be much lower than BTC, at least for some time (days, weeks, months, maybe forever).

I could go on... but the only reasonable conclusion is that all this chaos and confussion will benefit noone (maybe to exchanges in the short period, due to the extreme volatility and huge number of trades) and that all this nonsense must come to and end now.

Is crypto done 

it all depends on which chain satoshi dumps on...
that chain will die.
not because he crashed its price
but because he expressed his preference

it all depends on which chain satoshi dumps on...
that chain will die.
not because he crashed its price
but because he expressed his preference

I think at least a few of the major ones like OKCoin and Huobi.
http://www.newsbtc.com/2017/01/17/bitcoin-price-thrives-despite-china-curbing-margin-trading/

it all depends on which chain satoshi dumps on...
that chain will die.
not because he crashed its price
but because he expressed his preference

I am a bit surprised that noone has mentioned one of the consecuences a split between CORE and BU would have, apart from the AMAZINGLY HUGE volatility lower combined price etc...

1) If Bitcoin is split in two, core side will be at 1MB max block size at that time, and BU with an undetermined but bigger max block size.

2) Both "parties" will start dumping each other strongly. Chaos will reign and volatility could be so huge as to wipe ENTIRE order books up and down. (mainly down, even to 0).

3) All leveraged positions will be wiped on the peaks and valleys.

4) The difficulty will be much higher than the hashrate which, by itself, will create big delays between blocks. It is uncertain how big though.

And this is what I haven't seen anyone mention:

5) There will be a huge spike in transactions with people sending his coins to the exchanges. And I mean an unprecedently HUGE number of transactions. Orders of magnitude higher than anything we have ever seen.

6) Core with its 1MB max block and difficulty over hashrate combined will take ages to move the coins (which is not that bad because there will be less BTC coins arriving at the exchanges to be dumped), BU blocksize...well, I am not sure what it will do in that scenario, but it is possible that it will lead to additional hard forks/blocksize adjustment. Also Orphan blocks will be everywhere.

7) Even if in that scenario it seems that BU would be at an advange with its increased TPS over BTC, that will lead to more BUcoins arriving at the exchanges and being dumped by BTC supporters. The price of BUcoin will be much lower than BTC, at least for some time (days, weeks, months, maybe forever).

I could go on... but the only reasonable conclusion is that all this chaos and confussion will benefit noone (maybe to exchanges in the short period, due to the extreme volatility and huge number of trades) and that all this nonsense must come to and end now.