Author

Topic: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion - page 17600. (Read 26712760 times)

hero member
Activity: 1848
Merit: 640
*Brute force will solve any Bitcoin problem*
>>

Once this line of BS fails, and it will, the next wave will be direct head-to-head Bitcoin competition: Gov't sponsored/endorsed Bankcoins, and eventually Bankcoin ETFs.

Believe it. You read it here first.




nope they already have that it's called credit/debit cards!  Roll Eyes
legendary
Activity: 1330
Merit: 1000
dafar consulting
The bad actors have created the fake civil war on purpose. It's about 20% real.

Bitcoin XT and Mike Hearn, Bitcoin Classic and Gavin, Bitcoin Unlimited and Roger Ver.

Three attempts to take-over development with a woefully inadequate support from programmers. Each attack has failed on technical measures before even fooling enough people. Each time they spun up fake nodes on VPS's to mimic support.

The three characters above were once great assets to the Bitcoin community but have become compromised, blackmail, payments or who knows what - but they are being led around by the balls, or truly idiots.

First they ignore you.  <--- all other crypto/altcoins are still here
Then they laugh at you.
Then they fight you.  <--- Bitcoin is here now
Then you win.

People don't realize that 'they' (the powers that be) are now circling Bitcoin like sharks, trying desperately in whatever ways they can to slow it down, set it back, or kill it forever.

'They' have run out of physical/technical ways to try and hinder or bring down Bitcoin (e.g., 0day bugs/hacks, DDoS, MtGox insolvency, exchanges hacked and/or going offline, FUD/negative news, etc.)

Now they only have one real play left: Social Engineering. They load up the forums with shills/trolls, trying to split the community and sway public opinion against Bitcoin in general.  They prop up and promote other alt coins now as "Bitcoin 2.0" and "way better". They string along and stall a Bitcoin ETF ruling for years, only to deny it at the 11th hour and laugh. They have even managed to gaslight former prominent Bitcoin proponents like Gavin, Roger, Mike, and big Chinese miners with false information or outright bullshit (Craig Wright is Satoshi, anyone?).

Once this line of BS fails, and it will, the next wave will be direct head-to-head Bitcoin competition: Gov't sponsored/endorsed Bankcoins, and eventually Bankcoin ETFs.

Believe it. You read it here first.


Good posts


Can't wait til this BU shit is done with...
legendary
Activity: 2310
Merit: 1422
The bad actors have created the fake civil war on purpose. It's about 20% real.

Bitcoin XT and Mike Hearn, Bitcoin Classic and Gavin, Bitcoin Unlimited and Roger Ver.

Three attempts to take-over development with a woefully inadequate support from programmers. Each attack has failed on technical measures before even fooling enough people. Each time they spun up fake nodes on VPS's to mimic support.

The three characters above were once great assets to the Bitcoin community but have become compromised, blackmail, payments or who knows what - but they are being led around by the balls, or truly idiots.

First they ignore you.  <--- all other crypto/altcoins are still here
Then they laugh at you.
Then they fight you.  <--- Bitcoin is here now
Then you win.

People don't realize that 'they' (the powers that be) are now circling Bitcoin like sharks, trying desperately in whatever ways they can to slow it down, set it back, or kill it forever.

'They' have run out of physical/technical ways to try and hinder or bring down Bitcoin (e.g., 0day bugs/hacks, DDoS, MtGox insolvency, exchanges hacked and/or going offline, FUD/negative news, etc.)

Now they only have one real play left: Social Engineering. They load up the forums with shills/trolls, trying to split the community and sway public opinion against Bitcoin in general.  They prop up and promote other alt coins now as "Bitcoin 2.0" and "way better". They string along and stall a Bitcoin ETF ruling for years, only to deny it at the 11th hour and laugh. They have even managed to gaslight former prominent Bitcoin proponents like Gavin, Roger, Mike, and big Chinese miners with false information or outright bullshit (Craig Wright is Satoshi, anyone?).

Once this line of BS fails, and it will, the next wave will be direct head-to-head Bitcoin competition: Gov't sponsored/endorsed Bankcoins, and eventually Bankcoin ETFs.

Believe it. You read it here first.


Elegantly put, excellent reasoning. Well done Torque.
Let's make it sticky and let's move onto the next leg up while the rest need to catch up onto it.
 Wink
sr. member
Activity: 392
Merit: 250
I agree. Up we go ! Can somebody please post some bear got rekt meme's please? Makes me feel good  Cheesy
hero member
Activity: 1011
Merit: 721
Decentralize everything
No problem  Smiley

So what do you guys think? another move down right now?
Or is it time to go up from here?
Its hard to choose right now.
I already made 0.1 BTC profit today but i dont want to lose it when btc start climbing up again.

Somebody help me out??

Experts say that we will see a big move down tomorrow but i dont see this down move continue  Huh
It will go down up so sell buy now or you will regret it tomorrow.

FTFY
hero member
Activity: 1848
Merit: 640
*Brute force will solve any Bitcoin problem*


^the only issue here is that lightning network scheme is gambling on the blocksize staying the same! These guys have infiltrated the core development team and are digging in to battle the idea of raising it because it will undermine their efforts for the push to offchain transactions...~i say raise the limit to 2mb already! :-D
sr. member
Activity: 392
Merit: 250
Nah i was in fiat already. I bought myself back in  Smiley. Looks like the momentum is broken and that we will move up again.
hero member
Activity: 589
Merit: 502
No problem  Smiley

So what do you guys think? another move down right now?
Or is it time to go up from here?
Its hard to choose right now.
I already made 0.1 BTC profit today but i dont want to lose it when btc start climbing up again.

Somebody help me out??

Experts say that we will see a big move down tomorrow but i dont see this down move continue  Huh
It will go down so sell now or you will regret it tomorrow.
sr. member
Activity: 392
Merit: 250
No problem  Smiley

So what do you guys think? another move down right now?
Or is it time to go up from here?
Its hard to choose right now.
I already made 0.1 BTC profit today but i dont want to lose it when btc start climbing up again.

Somebody help me out??

Experts say that we will see a big move down tomorrow but i dont see this down move continue  Huh
hero member
Activity: 1848
Merit: 640
*Brute force will solve any Bitcoin problem*

As you are so vocal about BU, let me ask you one question:

Would you accept if segwit would be in effect in the following six months and forget about all that BU nonsense at least for some time being? If not, what about segwit + 2M blocks? Or is this all about that you guys insist in that all present and future transactions have to be ALL done in main Bitcoin blockchain?

Why not do this? This should appease everyone am I right, at least does the time being.  And from now until when/if we need bigger blocks than 2MB the community should have a good handle on if they are needed or not.

This seems like the most logical objective compromise to me.


^2mb or 2.3MB(via segwit) is what these chumps are beefing about...i mean really? :-D lulz
hero member
Activity: 1848
Merit: 640
*Brute force will solve any Bitcoin problem*
Hey gang. I heard someone mention something about blocksize and Bitcoin.

Does anyone here have an opinion on this?

^raise price to $2000 and blocksize to 2mb... ~now pay me! Wink ha
sr. member
Activity: 303
Merit: 250
My bad , this is the correct link : https://cryptowat.ch/bitfinex/btcusd/1m

Alright. This one works now. Thanks.
Will be watching it feverishly now. Cheesy
full member
Activity: 127
Merit: 100

As you are so vocal about BU, let me ask you one question:

Would you accept if segwit would be in effect in the following six months and forget about all that BU nonsense at least for some time being? If not, what about segwit + 2M blocks? Or is this all about that you guys insist in that all present and future transactions have to be ALL done in main Bitcoin blockchain?

Why not do this? This should appease everyone am I right, at least does the time being.  And from now until when/if we need bigger blocks than 2MB the community should have a good handle on if they are needed or not.

This seems like the most logical objective compromise to me.
legendary
Activity: 2772
Merit: 2846
Bottom at $1210 because of maximum FUD? Not bad. Even BTC-e is above Finex.

That's way above the old bitstamp and bitfinex ATHs. If Bitcoin stays range bound betwen $1210 and $1260 for another month it's a good thing. If it keeps increasing in value too fast it's going to eventually get a hard correction. Slowly increasing in value is better.
legendary
Activity: 3598
Merit: 2386
Viva Ut Vivas
Hey gang. I heard someone mention something about blocksize and Bitcoin.

Does anyone here have an opinion on this?
legendary
Activity: 3794
Merit: 5474
These rather trivial bugs exhibited recently by BU ....

I stopped reading there. And then I started laughing.... Buahahahahaahaaa!! A 0day exploit that allows a hacker to knock all BU nodes offline.... trivial he says......hahahahahahaaa!!!
legendary
Activity: 1120
Merit: 1012
If that happens, their code will have to define the protocol which runs the network, right?

As a professional protocol developer (yes, really), I advance the notion that 'big boy' protocols are not defined by a single code implementation. Significant protocols have definitions that exist outside the various tangible implementations of their specifications. Indeed, many significant standards agencies will not recognize a protocol as ready for the big time until such time as there are multiple interoperating implementations from multiple sources.

We aren't talking about "big boy" protocols, we are talking about Bitcoin. By it's nature, the client dictates the protocol. If we actually switch to BU, that is the implementation which will determine the protocol, as clients with different rules will be isolated from the network (once that rule comes into question when a block is crafted accordingly), due to the very mechanics of Bitcoin.

These rather trivial bugs exhibited recently by BU merely serve to illuminate the problems that may arise when a single implementation is the only implementation of a given protocol.

I think trivial is marginalizing it, but whatever. I've been running a full node for 6 years now and I can't recall an instance where it shut down and the underlying OS wasn't to blame. And again, the bug is less of a concern to me than how the entire event surrounding it was handled, but you don't seem to want to discuss that since you keep ignoring it.

A failure in one implementation is a failure in the entire system.

Recent events say otherwise. I'm not sure why you would make this claim.

To assume there are not bugs of similar scope in Core is a blindered approach.

I never made that claim.

Yes, as there has been a resistance within the community to develop a formal specification, we are reliant upon duking it out in the marketplace.

I've seen plenty of efforts to develop formal specifications in the Bitcoin ecosphere. I've also seen plenty of efforts to intentionally avoid or sidestep attempts at formal specifications. It's an open source project, so people are obviously going to do as they please.

Some day, I hope we can move past these baby steps to where we have multiple interoperating implementations from many teams.

That sounds great, except that's not how Bitcoin works if the "interoperating implementations" have different rule sets, once those rules come into question, those clients will isolate themselves. Example: If a block bigger than 1MB is mined by a miner using BU, the Core nodes and BU nodes will no longer be on the same network. I know you know this, but you are using flowery language to suggests otherwise for some reason.

In the meantime, a marginal implementation of the better design is far more valuable than any near-bulletproof implementation of a bad design. I continue to advocate BU.

Well at least you admit that BU is a marginal implementation. It's also a bad design. But hey, that's just like... my opinion, man.

You know, it's obvious we aren't going to agree, and I really think that's a shame. I think this constant infighting is exactly what people opposed to Bitcoin want to see (and the alt-coiners love it as well). Of course, there has been plenty of drama throughout Bitcoin's short existence and I'm confident that this will eventually just be another speed bump in the road.
hero member
Activity: 658
Merit: 503
Bear with me
Bottom at $1210 because of maximum FUD? Not bad. Even BTC-e is above Finex.
legendary
Activity: 2464
Merit: 1145
Or Ethereum will win, I'm not sure yet.
Are you sure about that?
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1829137.new#new

Ethereum linked to MLM ponzi scheme.
This might just cause the price to plummet on their sudden pump in price along side of a rise in Dash.

Dude News.8btc is more alternative facts then Breitbart and RT together...
hero member
Activity: 728
Merit: 500
EtherSphere - Social Games
Or Ethereum will win, I'm not sure yet.
Are you sure about that?
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1829137.new#new

Ethereum linked to MLM ponzi scheme.
This might just cause the price to plummet on their sudden pump in price along side of a rise in Dash.
Jump to: