Topic: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion - page 17601. (Read 26712760 times)
March 16, 2017, 11:02:08 AM
BTC price has to get managed downwards so those pumping the altcoins can get out of their altcoins and back into BTC , maximise their killing.
March 16, 2017, 11:01:53 AM
If that happens, their code will have to define the protocol which runs the network, right?
As a professional protocol developer (yes, really), I advance the notion that 'big boy' protocols are not defined by a single code implementation. Significant protocols have definitions that exist outside the various tangible implementations of their specifications. Indeed, many significant standards agencies will not recognize a protocol as ready for the big time until such time as there are multiple interoperating implementations from multiple sources.
These rather trivial bugs exhibited recently by BU merely serve to illuminate the problems that may arise when a single implementation is the only implementation of a given protocol. A failure in one implementation is a failure in the entire system. To assume there are not bugs of similar scope in Core is a blindered approach.
Yes, as there has been a resistance within the community to develop a formal specification, we are reliant upon duking it out in the marketplace. Some day, I hope we can move past these baby steps to where we have multiple interoperating implementations from many teams.
In the meantime, a marginal implementation of the better design is far more valuable than any near-bulletproof implementation of a bad design. I continue to advocate BU.
March 16, 2017, 10:48:08 AM
"Let's force 1mb blocks onto everyone forever! Let's restrict organic growth of Bitcoin's userbase and force marketshare into altcoins! Let's use an unproven solution (LN) and force it onto everyone! THEY WON'T HAVE A CHOICE!" -BlockstreamCore
Yes, how dare the rest of us who see through this insanity insist that Bitcoin go back to Satoshi's original vision of on-chain scaling.
How dare.
Yes, how dare the rest of us who see through this insanity insist that Bitcoin go back to Satoshi's original vision of on-chain scaling.
How dare.
As you are so vocal about BU, let me ask you one question:
Would you accept if segwit would be in effect in the following six months and forget about all that BU nonsense at least for some time being? If not, what about segwit + 2M blocks? Or is this all about that you guys insist in that all present and future transactions have to be ALL done in main Bitcoin blockchain?
March 16, 2017, 10:45:44 AM
March 16, 2017, 10:43:07 AM
Good morning Bitcoinland.
Seems we've lost a little ground overnight... currently $1224USD (Bitcoinaverage).
We're back to where we were 3 days ago, or the day before the ETF announcement.
No sweat. After 5 consecutive green daily candles, a little red doesn't hurt.
true.dat
It's nice to know somebody gets it.
I think the silent, intelligent army of characters of substance and skill will triumph.
They have the mental capital and due to that, the financial capital. Most importantly the brainpower is on the right side, in the end that will lead. The system is too complex to be run by pretend programmers and charlatans dumb enough to take money to shit on promising technology and essentially lie and woof all day long. Who wants to do that? The incompetent and the evil, and most likely the blackmailed.
Indeed. This is why I don't worry.
The trolls, FUDsters and alt shills are so obvious they're almost comical.
Meanwhile, I made the decision long ago to trust that "silent, intelligent army" to mind the code.
That's the beauty of a decentralized open-source platform. Even though my own coding skills are very limited, I figure I can trust a worldwide community of dedicated capable coders to keep things in check.
Seems we've lost a little ground overnight... currently $1224USD (Bitcoinaverage).
We're back to where we were 3 days ago, or the day before the ETF announcement.
No sweat. After 5 consecutive green daily candles, a little red doesn't hurt.
Now they only have one real play left: Social Engineering. They load up the forums with shills/trolls, trying to split the community and sway public opinion against Bitcoin in general. They prop up and promote other alt coins now as "Bitcoin 2.0" and "way better". They string along and stall a Bitcoin ETF ruling for years, only to deny it at the 11th hour and laugh. They have even managed to gaslight former prominent Bitcoin proponents like Gavin, Roger, Mike, and big Chinese miners with false information or outright bullshit (Craig Wright is Satoshi, anyone?).
true.dat
It's nice to know somebody gets it.
I think the silent, intelligent army of characters of substance and skill will triumph.
They have the mental capital and due to that, the financial capital. Most importantly the brainpower is on the right side, in the end that will lead. The system is too complex to be run by pretend programmers and charlatans dumb enough to take money to shit on promising technology and essentially lie and woof all day long. Who wants to do that? The incompetent and the evil, and most likely the blackmailed.
Indeed. This is why I don't worry.
The trolls, FUDsters and alt shills are so obvious they're almost comical.
Meanwhile, I made the decision long ago to trust that "silent, intelligent army" to mind the code.
That's the beauty of a decentralized open-source platform. Even though my own coding skills are very limited, I figure I can trust a worldwide community of dedicated capable coders to keep things in check.
March 16, 2017, 10:37:09 AM
will support at 1210 hold?
will there be a recovery before okc futures settlement?
these are the only things on my mind. fuck this hardfork BU segwit noise
will there be a recovery before okc futures settlement?
these are the only things on my mind. fuck this hardfork BU segwit noise
March 16, 2017, 10:13:27 AM
First they ignore you. <--- all other crypto/altcoins are still here
Then they laugh at you.
Then they fight you. <--- Bitcoin is here now
Then you win.
People don't realize that 'they' (the powers that be) are now circling Bitcoin like sharks, trying desperately in whatever ways they can to slow it down, set it back, or kill it forever.
'They' have run out of physical/technical ways to try and hinder or bring down Bitcoin (e.g., 0day bugs/hacks, DDoS, MtGox insolvency, exchanges hacked and/or going offline, FUD/negative news, etc.)
Now they only have one real play left: Social Engineering. They load up the forums with shills/trolls, trying to split the community and sway public opinion against Bitcoin in general. They prop up and promote other alt coins now as "Bitcoin 2.0" and "way better". They string along and stall a Bitcoin ETF ruling for years, only to deny it at the 11th hour and laugh. They have even managed to gaslight former prominent Bitcoin proponents like Gavin, Roger, Mike, and big Chinese miners with false information or outright bullshit (Craig Wright is Satoshi, anyone?).
Once this line of BS fails, and it will, the next wave will be direct head-to-head Bitcoin competition: Gov't sponsored/endorsed Bankcoins, and eventually Bankcoin ETFs.
Believe it. You read it here first.
Pretty much this! As I also said, to me this looks like an coordinated attack.Again! Not the first one we witness.
It's again all about divide the community, spread FUD and demoralize the people.
But I'm also pretty confident the majority of the community and especially the big holders know what's going on.
March 16, 2017, 10:08:44 AM
"Let's force 1mb blocks onto everyone forever! Let's restrict organic growth of Bitcoin's userbase and force marketshare into altcoins! Let's use an unproven solution (LN) and force it onto everyone! THEY WON'T HAVE A CHOICE!" -BlockstreamCore
Yes, how dare the rest of us who see through this insanity insist that Bitcoin go back to Satoshi's original vision of on-chain scaling.
How dare.
Yes, how dare the rest of us who see through this insanity insist that Bitcoin go back to Satoshi's original vision of on-chain scaling.
How dare.
March 16, 2017, 10:05:26 AM
^ 3 posts from Chopstick, i got this one on ignored. This person must be talking bullshit, i'm sure this troll is frustrated that BU is in deep shit 
He has been talking such bullshit for quite a long time - at least 6 months. Just repeats over and over the paid shill talking points in regards to promoting some kind of supposed scaling solution, but without really having much if any justification - beyond repetition of nonsense.
When Truth becomes "paid shill talking points..."
Welcome to 2017.
Also, I only come on here occasionally when I'm bored.
But watching the BU v. Core fight has been quite entertaining, and I love pissing people off like you who are like this:
March 16, 2017, 10:01:46 AM
Hi chopstick, why don't you go and buy some Dash
This is you:
March 16, 2017, 09:58:59 AM
^ 3 posts from Chopstick, i got this one on ignored. This person must be talking bullshit, i'm sure this troll is frustrated that BU is in deep shit
He has been talking such bullshit for quite a long time - at least 6 months. Just repeats over and over the paid shill talking points in regards to promoting some kind of supposed scaling solution, but without really having much if any justification - beyond repetition of nonsense.
March 16, 2017, 09:57:20 AM
Hi chopstick, why don't you go and buy some Dash
March 16, 2017, 09:51:43 AM
That reads like bilge to me. It seems to imply that Core = Bitcoin forever which even Core themselves probably wouldn't endorse.
If 95% of people genuinely adored BU then it would become Bitcoin without question. Of course they don't so it'll never happen but it's just a matter of percentages and the contention factor.
Bitcoin's value comes not from the software version but the history, trust and money shoved in there. That supersedes any code if it's mutually agreed upon to transfer it to a different version. The present code doesn't have a great deal of similarity with the very first version.
March 16, 2017, 09:50:33 AM
i suck the cock for the food
BU doesn't have the ability to manage software as complex as Bitcoin today.. If that isn't obvious now than nothing will change your mind.. Which means it is not facts you care about but you are trollololing.
edit:welcome to ignore buddy!
Oh look, another Brainless Kore moron who can't handle even the slightest argument before resorting to personal name calling and /ignore
If you guys are Kore's best and brightest, well...
March 16, 2017, 09:48:43 AM
^ 3 posts from Chopstick, i got this one on ignored. This person must be talking bullshit, i'm sure this troll is frustrated that BU is in deep shit
Yeah, BU is in real deep shit with constantly increasing hashrate and the pathetic smear attempts from Core's smear campaign falling flat on their face
Kore is only digging a deeper hole for themselves. Every day. I couldn't ask for anything better.
As the price drops during this "civil war" and altcoins continue to explode, well, those are only more money making opportunities before BU eventually wins the fight and takes back what is rightfully ours (on-chain scaling),
And if BU fails, then altcoins overtake Bitcoin anyway, so either way I'm covered.
As for you morons who can't even handle these basic truths, well, I don't know what to say. Enjoy having your head in the sand?
March 16, 2017, 09:45:23 AM
i suck the cock for the food
BU doesn't have the ability to manage software as complex as Bitcoin today.. If that isn't obvious now than nothing will change your mind.. Which means it is not facts you care about but you are trollololing.
edit:welcome to ignore buddy!
March 16, 2017, 09:44:12 AM
^ 3 posts from Chopstick, i got this one on ignored. This person must be talking bullshit, i'm sure this troll is frustrated that BU is in deep shit
March 16, 2017, 09:41:24 AM
r/bitcoin has turned into like a reflection of r/politics.
Just replace the anti-Trump / Russia hatred with anti - BU hatred, vitriol, etc.
So so sad.
Just replace the anti-Trump / Russia hatred with anti - BU hatred, vitriol, etc.
So so sad.
March 16, 2017, 09:40:11 AM
Now they only have one real play left: Social Engineering. They load up the forums with shills/trolls, trying to split the community and sway public opinion against Bitcoin in general. They prop up and promote other alt coins now as "Bitcoin 2.0" and "way better". They string along and stall a Bitcoin ETF ruling for years, only to deny it at the 11th hour and laugh. They have even managed to gaslight former prominent Bitcoin proponents like Gavin, Roger, Mike, and big Chinese miners with false information or outright bullshit (Craig Wright is Satoshi, anyone?).
true.dat
It's nice to know somebody gets it.
I think the silent, intelligent army of characters of substance and skill will triumph.
They have the mental capital and due to that, the financial capital. Most importantly the brainpower is on the right side, in the end that will lead. The system is too complex to be run by pretend programmers and charlatans dumb enough to take money to shit on promising technology and essentially lie and woof all day long. Who wants to do that? The incompetent and the evil, and most likely the blackmailed.
March 16, 2017, 09:37:49 AM
Or Ethereum will win, I'm not sure yet.
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