Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion - page 18704.

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Quote from: Assmaster2000 on June 09, 2016, 07:42:42 PM

The price seems to be drooping again. Is it supposed to be doing that? Are we still OK?
*Ripple, "The DAO," and Doge are up tho. Because there is no god Sad

yeah the ways of crypto are mysterious to me Sad

by the way ..I find myself buying asic scrypt equipment (good prices it will roi ok) BUT is it an addiction if you find yourself buying asic equipment JUST
to extend home mining into the future....(damn I got it bad) ...or at least that seems to be the end game plan (I'm in denial it seems) Sad

whatever......now pondering the ways of crypto and this obvious 'addiction'

sigh

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Quote from: Assmaster2000 on June 09, 2016, 07:42:42 PM

The price seems to be drooping again.

it seems but its not

Quote from: Assmaster2000 on June 09, 2016, 07:42:42 PM

Is it supposed to be doing that?

yes.

Quote from: Assmaster2000 on June 09, 2016, 07:42:42 PM

Are we still OK?

yes.

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The price seems to be drooping again. Is it supposed to be doing that? Are we still OK?
*Ripple, "The DAO," and Doge are up tho. Because there is no god Sad

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^^Nein!

*ok, so it's not strictly a fighter, and didn't see combat, but it's way cooler than the other ones that did.

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jet fighter ? Roll Eyes

it's useless ...

http://www.grindtv.com/snowboarding/electric-jet-engines-propel-snowboarder-50-mph/

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Quote from: AZwarel on June 09, 2016, 06:40:53 PM

Control over money is the greatest power right now on this Earth.

I do not need to be my own everything. If, i am my own bank, i can pay everyone else to do my shit, just as you said.

No, you can't. Because while you were dicking around with being your own bank, you weren't doing *your* job. You weren't *earning* money.

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You can not think, that the power to transact with anyone anywhere, anytime, without zero chance to be blocked/resisted/censored by state brutes is not monetary freedom. Or to walk away with a million$ BTC in your head cross borders.

I grew up in Soviet Russia. Before you can move millions of BTC across borders, you have to *make* billions of BTC. And defend those millions of BTC from other savvy bitcoin entrepreneurs. Some of them are bigger than you, and not squeamish about bashing heads. And "across borders" is not Equestria, but bad motherfuckers who are more corrupt, and poorer, too. They'll take your head off.

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I can either do it myself - none can take my money -, or give this great power to psychopats.

You yourself seem to have your fair share of sociopathy. Not uncommon for paranoid schizophrenics to think everyone around them insane, u know Cheesy

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you will see why bitcoin is so game changing for freedom.

Like this, for instance, is a bit worrying.

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* Rothbard's genius essay

Call 911 and stay on the line until help arrives.

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Quote from: AZwarel on June 09, 2016, 06:38:20 PM

Quote from: Assmaster2000 on June 09, 2016, 06:23:31 PM

Quote from: AZwarel on June 09, 2016, 06:11:10 PM

It is way overdue for "the peasants" to learn some self reliance, and actually study and understand the things they use every f**ing day...Right?

Most people don't know shit and are perfectly happy and productive. They have no idea how their cellphone works, and only a vague idea how a regular phone works. They have no understanding of what's involved in a POTS network, how cable is laid under the sea, how comsats work, how comsats get to where they are, or what keeps them there, etc., etc. They haven't a clue, but it's OK, because they function well *in society*, because they are passable at what they do at work. Because since roughly the dawn of man, no one person is good at everything. But together, we have this whole civilization

While i agree, that this was kinda-sorta working up until now - actually, it didn't, that is why we have billionaire banksters, corrupt governments, frauds on every level of the financial/industrial/political system -, this can not be a way of life anymore. Sob-sob, evolution bitchez!

Those who stick with their "one trick pony" skills, one company for life, are dead weight in the information age. I am talking about large scale, like small individual laziness add up and brings the system down - just look at political leaders, most of them are reaaaly stupid.

I know this massive shift won't happen, i agree on that with you. That is why we might be the new super wealthy elite, because at every technological leap made before, the masses only start using/hoarding/studying it when the "leader says so", or the cost of staying out is visibly enormous, and it is already too late for them in 10 years in the future to enjoy the early innovator phase's benefits (like buying bitcoin below 50,000$

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It's not "kinda/sorta working," it's working *miraculously well*! The reason you see alternatives is because *you don't understand the mindboggling complexity, the insane level of interconnectedness and scope of ...stuff.* Look at some oldass tech, like Ford River Rouge Plant, 100 years ago, it's stupefying! And less than 20 years later, we had huge aluminum flying monstrosities with shit like this for motors:

And around the same time V2s and actual, fighting jets. Should I go on? Is this a "roll up your sleeves and be a lone wolf maverick" type of a deal?

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Quote from: Assmaster2000 on June 09, 2016, 06:34:05 PM

Quote from: AZwarel on June 09, 2016, 06:17:39 PM

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Freedom has a cost. That cost might be higher on the average by a day/day basis, up until that special morning moment when those choose not to be free and picked the lazy solution which costed them zero day/day so far suddenly realize, everything they had has been taken away/evaporated by those whom they relied on to "deal with them, cause i am lazy".

Think about it, slaves did not had to worry about how to get food, shelter, work. Did this comfort worth that occasional fine assr*pe/murder?

You are genuinely insane. Being your own bank is no more "freedom" than being your own psychiatrist. What's wrong with you? What freedom?
If everyone tried to be his own everything, the world would turn into a festering cesspool within weeks. Do you understand that societies above slime molds involve specialization? That there's one guy who makes bread, another who sings inspiring agitprop, & another who wears jackboots, so people next door won't shit all over us? And the people next door have their own jackbooted thugs?

What freedom are you money changer wannabees talking about?

Control over money is the greatest power right now on this Earth.

I do not need to be my own everything. If, i am my own bank, i can pay everyone else to do my shit, just as you said.
You can not think, that the power to transact with anyone anywhere, anytime, without zero chance to be blocked/resisted/censored by state brutes is not monetary freedom. Or to walk away with a million$ BTC in your head cross borders.
I can either do it myself - none can take my money -, or give this great power to psychopats. The rest is history. Like in the so free USSA https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Executive_Order_6102
Seriously, read how the state brutalized its own citizens in the last 5000+ years by controlling money and wealth, and than you will see why bitcoin is so game changing for freedom.

* Rothbard's genius essay on the State vs People: https://mises.org/sites/default/files/Anatomy%20of%20the%20State_3.pdf

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Quote from: yefi on June 09, 2016, 06:32:23 PM

Quote from: Assmaster2000 on June 09, 2016, 04:24:41 PM

I do not care to be my own proctologist

Neither feature require any user thought when implemented by default on the client as they ought be. The tech is there for wallet providers to make the experience fairly idiot-proof.

Au contraire mon Ami! Apparently Miss Bit Coin upthread wasn't smart enough, that;s why we're having this conversation. And transactions aren't just about sending someone your coin, they're about *getting something other than a gift-wrapped brick in return.*
That's where you need IRL banksters and their jackbooted thugs Sad

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Quote from: Assmaster2000 on June 09, 2016, 06:23:31 PM

Quote from: AZwarel on June 09, 2016, 06:11:10 PM

It is way overdue for "the peasants" to learn some self reliance, and actually study and understand the things they use every f**ing day...Right?

Most people don't know shit and are perfectly happy and productive. They have no idea how their cellphone works, and only a vague idea how a regular phone works. They have no understanding of what's involved in a POTS network, how cable is laid under the sea, how comsats work, how comsats get to where they are, or what keeps them there, etc., etc. They haven't a clue, but it's OK, because they function well *in society*, because they are passable at what they do at work. Because since roughly the dawn of man, no one person is good at everything. But together, we have this whole civilization

While i agree, that this was kinda-sorta working up until now - actually, it didn't, that is why we have billionaire banksters, corrupt governments, frauds on every level of the financial/industrial/political system -, this can not be a way of life anymore. Sob-sob, evolution bitchez!

Those who stick with their "one trick pony" skills, one company for life, are dead weight in the information age. I am talking about large scale, like small individual laziness add up and brings the system down - just look at political leaders, most of them are reaaaly stupid.

I know this massive shift won't happen, i agree on that with you. That is why we might be the new super wealthy elite, because at every technological leap made before, the masses only start using/hoarding/studying it when the "leader says so", or the cost of staying out is visibly enormous, and it is already too late for them in 10 years in the future to enjoy the early innovator phase's benefits (like buying bitcoin below 50,000$

.

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Quote from: AZwarel on June 09, 2016, 06:17:39 PM

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Freedom has a cost. That cost might be higher on the average by a day/day basis, up until that special morning moment when those choose not to be free and picked the lazy solution which costed them zero day/day so far suddenly realize, everything they had has been taken away/evaporated by those whom they relied on to "deal with them, cause i am lazy".

Think about it, slaves did not had to worry about how to get food, shelter, work. Did this comfort worth that occasional fine assr*pe/murder?

You are genuinely insane. Being your own bank is no more "freedom" than being your own psychiatrist. What's wrong with you? What freedom?
If everyone tried to be his own everything, the world would turn into a festering cesspool within weeks. Do you understand that societies above slime molds involve specialization? That there's one guy who makes bread, another who sings inspiring agitprop, & another who wears jackboots, so people next door won't shit all over us? And the people next door have their own jackbooted thugs?

What freedom are you money changer wannabees talking about?

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Quote from: Assmaster2000 on June 09, 2016, 04:24:41 PM

I do not care to be my own proctologist

Neither feature require any user thought when implemented by default on the client as they ought be. The tech is there for wallet providers to make the experience fairly idiot-proof.

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Quote from: AZwarel on June 09, 2016, 06:11:10 PM

It is way overdue for "the peasants" to learn some self reliance, and actually study and understand the things they use every f**ing day...Right?

Most people don't know shit and are perfectly happy and productive. They have no idea how their cellphone works, and only a vague idea how a regular phone works. They have no understanding of what's involved in a POTS network, how cable is laid under the sea, how comsats work, how comsats get to where they are, or what keeps them there, etc., etc. They haven't a clue, but it's OK, because they function well *in society*, because they are passable at what they do at work. Because since roughly the dawn of man, no one person is good at everything. But together, we have this whole civilization

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Quote from: Assmaster2000 on June 09, 2016, 05:46:00 PM

Quote from: becoin on June 09, 2016, 05:35:37 PM

Quote from: Assmaster2000 on June 09, 2016, 05:24:05 PM

Quote from: becoin on June 09, 2016, 05:15:14 PM

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Quote from: becoin on June 09, 2016, 04:45:29 PM

Quote from: Assmaster2000 on June 09, 2016, 04:24:41 PM

and when I pay for a beer, I don't want to worry about fat-fingering an extra digit or including unconfirmed inputs.

If you're an idiot you'd better let your government take care of you and your money.

You wanna be your own practologist, banker and brain surgeon, you go right ahead.
Something tells me you did try your hand at self-brainsurgeoning, and it worked out ...well, let's just say you tried Cheesy

Seriously tho, I don't want to be my own ditch digger, bankster or ass surgeon, for basically the same set of reasons: I'd rather pay someone else to do it, someone who's good at it.

It is like saying you'd rather pay someone to fuck your wife, someone who's good at it.
Seriously tho, you can't pay if you can't pay because you don't know how money is used.

Nah, I like fucking, so to have time for it & not have human females run away from me because covered in poo from my last attempt at being my own ass surgeon, I pay people to do the shit I don't like to do/ain't good at.
See?
It's as if I'm explaining basic earthling stuff to a martian, ffs Roll Eyes

Most people do. And that's the point. Most people also like to personally take care of their own money.
Saying that you don't have time to take care of your money because you're too busy working to make money is extreme stupidity.

I can only tell you that you're mistaken. I like having money, but I'm as tempted by the prospect of becoming my own bank as I am by digging through my bloody poo to lovingly suture my own rectum. Which is to say I can take it or leave it.

Freedom has a cost. That cost might be higher on the average by a day/day basis, up until that special morning moment when those choose not to be free and picked the lazy solution which costed them zero day/day so far suddenly realize, everything they had has been taken away/evaporated by those whom they relied on to "deal with them, cause i am lazy".

Think about it, slaves did not had to worry about how to get food, shelter, work. Did this comfort worth that occasional fine assr*pe/murder?

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Quote from: becoin on June 09, 2016, 04:45:29 PM

Quote from: Assmaster2000 on June 09, 2016, 04:24:41 PM

and when I pay for a beer, I don't want to worry about fat-fingering an extra digit or including unconfirmed inputs.

If you're an idiot you'd better let your government take care of you and your money.