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legendary
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dont worry about the big green BTC...its just me buyin  Tongue
Pumpy, you seem to be a bit nervous today.

He's hodling a big bag of soon to be very cheap eth.
legendary
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dont worry about the big green BTC...its just me buyin  Tongue
Pumpy, you seem to be a bit nervous today.
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dont worry about the big green BTC...its just me buyin  Tongue


Good lad... keep it up! Buy ALL THE BITCOINS!!!!
legendary
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dont worry about the big green BTC...its just me buyin  Tongue
legendary
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Vitalik Buterin the next Mike Hearn.

http://www.coindesk.com/r3-ethereum-report-banks/

http://www.coindesk.com/r3-ethereum-report-banks/
+1 GD READ, watch/read lol the MAESTRO IN ACTION , Vitalik educating the Trillion $$ world of finance  Cool Tongue
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legendary
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So, we have 38 days until the halving. Price is at ~$530. KNC just went Bankrupt, There is no scaling solution. Is it realistic to expect moon? I think maybe we'll have moon like October, but I don't see really anything hugely positive unless all the demand comes from China due to ongoing currency devaluations. I'd like to see another leg up this weekend but I'm not sure anymore.


I'm giving you some benefit of the doubt, here, by responding... and in essence, you appear to be very deluded in your perspective.....


In that regard, you seem to placing way too much importance to a scaling non-issue that has become a talking point for big mouth trolls, financial shills, bitcoin denialists, ETH pumpers, deluded persons, bears hoping for the price to go down, and misinformed folks.  

I could give you the benefit of the doubt by considering that potentially, you are a misinformed folk... and regarding the misinformed folks, some of them are more genuine than others concerning their legitimately being confused by this non-issue that has been made into an issue and overhyped.

Rather than scaling, as an issue, you should consider that bitcoin recently passed through the upper $400s resistance point.. and it did so over several months and after fighting off quite a bit of FUCD spreading..  Depending on how far you zoom out, this has not really been an overly radical price increase, so support seems pretty decent at this price point and puts bitcoin in a very decent place for an upward price launch..

Of course, nothing is for certain in bitcoinlandia - especially when we have manipulators and disinformation spreaders...  but when you are talking about some kind of probablistic crash based on some fabricated scaling issue, you are really talking about a scenario that is less likely over an issue that is largely resolved.. and in that regard, if we have some kind of crash, some kind of real technical problem with bitcoin needs to be identified, or the FUCD spreaders are going to have to come up with something that is convinces normal persons to sell, because currently BTC's price pressures are upwards, and not downward, as you seem to be asserting with your superficial yesterday's news depiction of Bitcoin's current situation.

Switch scaling for hard fork code changes and my point remains the same.

So, LN is in Alpha but needs Segwit. SOME miners won't agree to segwit unless it is as a HF AND includes 2mb code release. Moon? DMOON? What am I missing? I think you would get moon if a compromise exists with participant buy in, otherwise I figure maybe a bump before halving and sharp decrease thereafter and maybe some stability at +/- $600's. Halving is great, I'm just concerned that there won't be benefits until coin supply tightens say around October/November. Thoughts?


Sure... fair enough.  I think that your second statement is a bit more reasonable and open as compared to your first framing of the issue.  In your first framing, you were outlining such situation with apparently too much certainty, as if bitcoin is on some kind of timeline.

Yeah, none of us really knows where the price is going to go in the short term.... Maybe a bubble is less likely to occur in the coming months under the circumstances as you describe them, but a bubble  could still occur in the coming months, there is no real timeline for these kinds of matters, and some problems may be exaggerated a lot more as problems than they really are... for example some miners threatening to withhold support from seg wit without a blocksize limit increase may be deadly for themselves and they may not be in a position to really leverage such an illogical position.

To the extent feasible, I have been attempting to prepare my BTC portfolio for various possible price directions and scenarios.  I don't necessarily expect a price bubble in the coming months or even in the coming years or need one in order to profit from BTC, and I can even profit from some various downward BTC price corrections, even though I do much better if BTC prices go up rather than down, whether it goes up slowly or quickly.. and yeah, likely i would do a hell-of-a lot better if BTC prices were to go up quickly, but it seems unreasonable and irrational to demand such upward exponential BTC price performance in the short term or to suggest bitcoin is somehow debilitated merely because it is not experiencing some kind of explosive price growth period in the short term. 

If we expect or we are relying on such an explosive price performance period in the near future, then probably we have over invested in bitcoin, and we need to diversify a little bit in order to not be such a gambling addict.


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Wanna know why big exchanges have been adding ETH....ETH is their hedge, giving customers a choice over fiat..smart move guys Wink
https://www.reddit.com/r/btc/comments/4ma3gh/whats_the_current_status_of_cores_2mb_hf/d3tto83
Things are looking bad for the Bitz of coins   Tongue

Time to grab sum of that cheap ETH  Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin

this shitcoin will dying soon.

BTC will definitely leave it in the dust soon. That's when you pick up the cheap eth if you want some.
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I understand youre frustration, it feels like ages. Segwit is under testing atm.


I can understand why it takes time, but my prime annoyance would be others holding its implementation hostage to force other changes. I read one of the Chinese pools were saying they wouldn't drop it in without a block size increase too. No doubt there'll be the r/btc freaks clubbing together to fuck things up too. Then we have another few years of pointless dicking around and playground diplomacy.


That's just part of the nature of peer to peer systems.... If no one is running the show, then there is going to be some frustrations and some posturing to influence the direction one way or another.

In the end, currently bitcoin is in a very positive position at the moment having staved off some of the bullshit catastrophes that would have likely resulted if either XT or Classic hard forks would have been triggered... it is a very good thing that currently, we are not even close to having any kind of XT or Classic hardfork, and it seems that a lot of very decent lessons have been learned concerning those earlier coop attempts... so in that regard, bitcoin is stronger rather than weaker by having gone through such attacks and come out with a fairly decent road plan including seg wit and other potential developments down the road (that may or may not include an actual hard increase to the blocksize limit).

jj , please stop talkin sense...lol
legendary
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I understand youre frustration, it feels like ages. Segwit is under testing atm.


I can understand why it takes time, but my prime annoyance would be others holding its implementation hostage to force other changes. I read one of the Chinese pools were saying they wouldn't drop it in without a block size increase too. No doubt there'll be the r/btc freaks clubbing together to fuck things up too. Then we have another few years of pointless dicking around and playground diplomacy.


That's just part of the nature of peer to peer systems.... If no one is running the show, then there is going to be some frustrations and some posturing to influence the direction one way or another.

In the end, currently bitcoin is in a very positive position at the moment having staved off some of the bullshit catastrophes that would have likely resulted if either XT or Classic hard forks would have been triggered... it is a very good thing that currently, we are not even close to having any kind of XT or Classic hardfork, and it seems that a lot of very decent lessons have been learned concerning those earlier coop attempts... so in that regard, bitcoin is stronger rather than weaker by having gone through such attacks and come out with a fairly decent road plan including seg wit and other potential developments down the road (that may or may not include an actual hard increase to the blocksize limit).
legendary
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Wanna know why big exchanges have been adding ETH....ETH is their hedge, giving customers a choice over fiat..smart move guys Wink
https://www.reddit.com/r/btc/comments/4ma3gh/whats_the_current_status_of_cores_2mb_hf/d3tto83
Things are looking bad for the Bitz of coins   Tongue

Time to grab sum of that cheap ETH  Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin

this shitcoin will dying soon.
Wink my lil angel follows me wherever i go... Kiss
legendary
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Wanna know why big exchanges have been adding ETH....ETH is their hedge, giving customers a choice over fiat..smart move guys Wink
https://www.reddit.com/r/btc/comments/4ma3gh/whats_the_current_status_of_cores_2mb_hf/d3tto83
Things are looking bad for the Bitz of coins   Tongue

Time to grab sum of that cheap ETH  Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin

this shitcoin will dying soon.
legendary
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Wanna know why big exchanges have been adding ETH....ETH is their hedge, giving customers a choice over fiat..smart move guys Wink
https://www.reddit.com/r/btc/comments/4ma3gh/whats_the_current_status_of_cores_2mb_hf/d3tto83
Things are looking bad for the Bitz of coins   Tongue

Time to grab sum of that cheap ETH  Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin
legendary
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r/btc ??

Ok.. hard to tell what the FUD is going on in there.. so I avoid it. But wasn't the 'plan' or according to some 'announcement' that a HF would come NEXT YEAR i.e. 2017
And that HF was 1->2 MB max block size increase...

This was apparently agreed upon to be rolled out NEXT Year.. specifically around July time.. with the caveat 'if there is a demand/need for it'

It was generally agreed to roll out SEGWIT this year.. see how things go and move towards a HF next year.

At least that is how i remember the news coming out.

Too many people with agendas on r/btc and they have become used to taking entrenched positions.

Personally, I think it's too early to start pissing your pants about something that is officially still a year off.. a lot can happen in that time.
Such behaviour is typical of that place.

One person asked a question as to what is the current status of a HF. IMHO that's a shitty question when the world and it's dog knows it was scheduled for next year.
Then a bunch of fools answer, screaming like kids.. core this.. blah blah..  aren't you fucking sick of it?
They probably don'T even own a significant number of bitcoins. Just like flaming and causing trouble.


nullc is still nullc
hero member
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r/btc ??

Ok.. hard to tell what the FUD is going on in there.. so I avoid it. But wasn't the 'plan' or according to some 'announcement' that a HF would come NEXT YEAR i.e. 2017
And that HF was 1->2 MB max block size increase...

This was apparently agreed upon to be rolled out NEXT Year.. specifically around July time.. with the caveat 'if there is a demand/need for it'

It was generally agreed to roll out SEGWIT this year.. see how things go and move towards a HF next year.

At least that is how i remember the news coming out.

Too many people with agendas on r/btc and they have become used to taking entrenched positions.

Personally, I think it's too early to start pissing your pants about something that is officially still a year off.. a lot can happen in that time.
Such behaviour is typical of that place.

One person asked a question as to what is the current status of a HF. IMHO that's a shitty question when the world and it's dog knows it was scheduled for next year.
Then a bunch of fools answer, screaming like kids.. core this.. blah blah..  aren't you fucking sick of it?
They probably don'T even own a significant number of bitcoins. Just like flaming and causing trouble.
legendary
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The plan for a HF is officially off the table. HK agreement breached.

https://www.reddit.com/r/btc/comments/4ma3gh/whats_the_current_status_of_cores_2mb_hf/d3tto83

Popcorn time!

I might be reading this wrong, but it looks like segwit is going to be maxed out shortly after it's released. If it's released. And if it's adopted by miners and users.

When did 3.7mb turn into 2mb?
legendary
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The plan for a HF is officially off the table. HK agreement breached.

https://www.reddit.com/r/btc/comments/4ma3gh/whats_the_current_status_of_cores_2mb_hf/d3tto83

Popcorn time!

Greg and the rest of core not participating never agreed to the HK agreement, thus nothing has been breached. If Luke doesn't  deliver a HF proposal to the miners in July you can make this claim. It was made abundantly clear at the meeting that the signers didn't speak for others. Whether this HF gets accepted by the community or not is an entirely different matter.
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in France,
gov. have kill people in syrie and africa for human migration and plutonium ressources.
gov. don't have asking this to the people because they can create DEBT from the people without asking.
So... France has an INTER-DIMENSIONAL PORTAL that can jump them to Syria and Africa to kill people and yank out migrants and plutonium?

I got news 4 you, camel boy... France merely purchased those resources.
The human migration is being stirred up by the EU and ISIS to support the New World Order.
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So would I. And wouldn't mind it a bit if all the ASICs vanished. Cyanide's already out of the can, tho ...tube. Out of the tube.
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Digital Currency Exchange Bitfinex to Pay 75k Fine to CFTC

Hong Kong-based digital currency exchange Bitfinex (BFXNA Inc.) will be paying a $75,000 fine to the United States Commodity Futures Trading Commission (CFTC). According to the order, Bitfinex fully cooperated with CFTC investigators and submitted the 75k Offer of Settlement, which the CFTC has accepted. [...]

http://themerkle.com/cftc-hits-digital-currency-exchange-bitfinex-with-75k-fine/

I would personally be happy if all of these high-volume stock market style bitcoin exchanges were just taken down - all of them, so that we can all focus on actually using and programming with bitcoin rather than attempting to daytrade it, following charts, and ruining our quality of life.
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