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legendary
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Bitcoin now has a rather nice flag formation after the rise from 200-500 with little media fanfare. The alt's are waking up and the halving is approaching. The only thing keeping bitcoin back is the blocksize debate which will soon resolve either by a HF with majority of miner support, or with Core acquiescing to the demands of the market and miners (3 weeks!) and fixing a 2mb blocksize HF in the roadmap.

The Chinese will stick with Core, they are quite conservative with respect to leadership. I'd be surprised to see Core implement 2MB blocks in addition to segregated witness, but we'll see.

And so long, farewell, auf wiedersehen 300s!
I'm actually pleasantly surprised with the steady price increase recently. Does anyone know the reasoning behind the increase? Does it have anything to do with the lack of users moving to classic or something, and now that the investors see that, they're buying again?

Or has Classic caused the increase as more users flock to it?
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legendary
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Bitcoin now has a rather nice flag formation after the rise from 200-500 with little media fanfare. The alt's are waking up and the halving is approaching. The only thing keeping bitcoin back is the blocksize debate which will soon resolve either by a HF with majority of miner support, or with Core acquiescing to the demands of the market and miners (3 weeks!) and fixing a 2mb blocksize HF in the roadmap.

The Chinese will stick with Core, they are quite conservative with respect to leadership. I'd be surprised to see Core implement 2MB blocks in addition to segregated witness, but we'll see.

And so long, farewell, auf wiedersehen 300s!

chinese are pushing for 2MB HF, core already hinted compromise. spoken word is HF in early 2017 with several other HF implementations as well.
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Bitcoin now has a rather nice flag formation after the rise from 200-500 with little media fanfare. The alt's are waking up and the halving is approaching. The only thing keeping bitcoin back is the blocksize debate which will soon resolve either by a HF with majority of miner support, or with Core acquiescing to the demands of the market and miners (3 weeks!) and fixing a 2mb blocksize HF in the roadmap.

The Chinese will stick with Core, they are quite conservative with respect to leadership. I'd be surprised to see Core implement 2MB blocks in addition to segregated witness, but we'll see.

And so long, farewell, auf wiedersehen 300s!
legendary
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Finally some volume.
legendary
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You lead and I'll watch you walk away.
Ethereum fags selling their pump n dump shitcoin for the one and only crypto coin, Bitcoin



Autist Vitalik on suicide watch.

That is some seriously funny shit. LOL
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Ethereum fags selling their pump n dump shitcoin for the one and only crypto coin, Bitcoin



Autist Vitalik on suicide watch.
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coming soon to an exchange near you:

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Decentralize everything
Say goodbye to the $300s people
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Warning: Confrmed Gavinista
Bitcoin now has a rather nice flag formation after the rise from 200-500 with little media fanfare. The alt's are waking up and the halving is approaching. The only thing keeping bitcoin back is the blocksize debate which will soon resolve either by a HF with majority of miner support, or with Core acquiescing to the demands of the market and miners (3 weeks!) and fixing a 2mb blocksize HF in the roadmap.

It isn't hard to see a perfect storm for bitcoin during times of further turbulence in the major markets, where negative rates are being introduced in Western economies as central bankers start to lose control. Previously there has been a hunt for return and yield with QE and cheap money post 2008 being used by banks to bid up stock markets and levitate asset prices. ZIRP has turned everyone into a speculator with cash offering negative returns and the markets looking crash prone now bitcoin may start to look mighty attractive as an asset class in the coming months with it's unique monetary properties.

The 1st world has had de facto ZIRP/NIRP for decades.

But now the mere mention of de jure wealth confiscation sets off rallies in hard liquid assets like gold/Bitcoin, silver/Monero, and platinum/Ethereum.

What a difference appearances make!

Finally, my doomsday portfolio goes green!   Cool




legendary
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Hide your women
Bitcoin now has a rather nice flag formation after the rise from 200-500 with little media fanfare. The alt's are waking up and the halving is approaching. The only thing keeping bitcoin back is the blocksize debate which will soon resolve either by a HF with majority of miner support, or with Core acquiescing to the demands of the market and miners (3 weeks!) and fixing a 2mb blocksize HF in the roadmap.

It isn't hard to see a perfect storm for bitcoin during times of further turbulence in the major markets, where negative rates are being introduced in Western economies as central bankers start to lose control. Previously there has been a hunt for return and yield with QE and cheap money post 2008 being used by banks to bid up stock markets and levitate asset prices. ZIRP has turned everyone into a speculator with cash offering negative returns and the markets looking crash prone now bitcoin may start to look mighty attractive as an asset class in the coming months with it's unique monetary properties.



How many times have we heard this before. "Oh, Bitcoin's fix is just around the corner. It's already in the works. It's just as if it has already happened."

Time after time we think it's over only to turn around and find out we haven't gotten ANYWHERE. XT, Classic, Core Roadmap.... 

All that has happened is that some miners sent a letter to Core saying they don't want any trouble, they just want a time frame on the hard fork. Why would Core listen to them any more than us?  Core knows that these guys will avoid a contentious hard fork like the plague and so they can be ignored with impunity. 

Core guys say "fuck you" to Gavin, Mike, Jeff, Coinbase, Bitpay, Bitstamp, The Winklevi, us, etc but they are supposed to just cave immediately to some Chinese miners who have more to lose in a fight than anybody else?  Does core have a history of being responsive to stakeholder concerns?

Dream on. It ain't fixed until it's fixed.  Until then, holding is risky, selling is prudent and buying is just plain naive.

You're maybe a bit pessimistic. Whatever core or classic, one of them will become the fix.

How do you know that? What makes this time different than the last half dozen times?  If I was Maxwell, I'd ink some response to the miners assuring them that they have been heard and that a hard fork will be rolled out just as soon as it is "needed". I'd basically just repeat the same bullshit I'd already said a million times, but in different words. If my goal was to stall as long as possible, I'd let the full three weeks run out and at the last minute, say that a hard fork will be added to the road map in a time range of between three and 18 months, depending on network traffic. That buys them a year and a half before they have to do anything at all.

You can't nail him down on anything because then you can prove he's lying. He'll make vague promises while reassuring us that there's plenty of time.   
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Bitcoin now has a rather nice flag formation after the rise from 200-500 with little media fanfare. The alt's are waking up and the halving is approaching. The only thing keeping bitcoin back is the blocksize debate which will soon resolve either by a HF with majority of miner support, or with Core acquiescing to the demands of the market and miners (3 weeks!) and fixing a 2mb blocksize HF in the roadmap.

It isn't hard to see a perfect storm for bitcoin during times of further turbulence in the major markets, where negative rates are being introduced in Western economies as central bankers start to lose control. Previously there has been a hunt for return and yield with QE and cheap money post 2008 being used by banks to bid up stock markets and levitate asset prices. ZIRP has turned everyone into a speculator with cash offering negative returns and the markets looking crash prone now bitcoin may start to look mighty attractive as an asset class in the coming months with it's unique monetary properties.

The 1st world has had de facto ZIRP/NIRP for decades.

But now the mere mention of de jure wealth confiscation sets off rallies in hard liquid assets like gold/Bitcoin, silver/Monero, and platinum/Ethereum.

What a difference appearances make!

Finally, my doomsday portfolio goes green!   Cool
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Bitcoin now has a rather nice flag formation after the rise from 200-500 with little media fanfare. The alt's are waking up and the halving is approaching. The only thing keeping bitcoin back is the blocksize debate which will soon resolve either by a HF with majority of miner support, or with Core acquiescing to the demands of the market and miners (3 weeks!) and fixing a 2mb blocksize HF in the roadmap.

It isn't hard to see a perfect storm for bitcoin during times of further turbulence in the major markets, where negative rates are being introduced in Western economies as central bankers start to lose control. Previously there has been a hunt for return and yield with QE and cheap money post 2008 being used by banks to bid up stock markets and levitate asset prices. ZIRP has turned everyone into a speculator with cash offering negative returns and the markets looking crash prone now bitcoin may start to look mighty attractive as an asset class in the coming months with it's unique monetary properties.



How many times have we heard this before. "Oh, Bitcoin's fix is just around the corner. It's already in the works. It's just as if it has already happened."

Time after time we think it's over only to turn around and find out we haven't gotten ANYWHERE. XT, Classic, Core Roadmap.... 

All that has happened is that some miners sent a letter to Core saying they don't want any trouble, they just want a time frame on the hard fork. Why would Core listen to them any more than us?  Core knows that these guys will avoid a contentious hard fork like the plague and so they can be ignored with impunity. 

Core guys say "fuck you" to Gavin, Mike, Jeff, Coinbase, Bitpay, Bitstamp, The Winklevi, us, etc but they are supposed to just cave immediately to some Chinese miners who have more to lose in a fight than anybody else?  Does core have a history of being responsive to stakeholder concerns?

Dream on. It ain't fixed until it's fixed.  Until then, holding is risky, selling is prudent and buying is just plain naive.

You're maybe a bit pessimistic. Whatever core or classic, one of them will become the fix.
legendary
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legendary
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Hide your women
Bitcoin now has a rather nice flag formation after the rise from 200-500 with little media fanfare. The alt's are waking up and the halving is approaching. The only thing keeping bitcoin back is the blocksize debate which will soon resolve either by a HF with majority of miner support, or with Core acquiescing to the demands of the market and miners (3 weeks!) and fixing a 2mb blocksize HF in the roadmap.

It isn't hard to see a perfect storm for bitcoin during times of further turbulence in the major markets, where negative rates are being introduced in Western economies as central bankers start to lose control. Previously there has been a hunt for return and yield with QE and cheap money post 2008 being used by banks to bid up stock markets and levitate asset prices. ZIRP has turned everyone into a speculator with cash offering negative returns and the markets looking crash prone now bitcoin may start to look mighty attractive as an asset class in the coming months with it's unique monetary properties.



How many times have we heard this before. "Oh, Bitcoin's fix is just around the corner. It's already in the works. It's just as if it has already happened."

Time after time we think it's over only to turn around and find out we haven't gotten ANYWHERE. XT, Classic, Core Roadmap.... 

All that has happened is that some miners sent a letter to Core saying they don't want any trouble, they just want a time frame on the hard fork. Why would Core listen to them any more than us?  Core knows that these guys will avoid a contentious hard fork like the plague and so they can be ignored with impunity. 

Core guys say "fuck you" to Gavin, Mike, Jeff, Coinbase, Bitpay, Bitstamp, The Winklevi, us, etc but they are supposed to just cave immediately to some Chinese miners who have more to lose in a fight than anybody else?  Does core have a history of being responsive to stakeholder concerns?

Dream on. It ain't fixed until it's fixed.  Until then, holding is risky, selling is prudent and buying is just plain naive.
legendary
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Self-Custody is a right. Say no to"Non-custodial"
If I want to talk about smart contracts do you think I have to go to altcoin discussion?

Isn't that going to be more technologically practical on bitcoin (rather than an alt) after the implementation of Seg wit?
legendary
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Make Bitcoin glow with ENIAC
This is why it's super important to have more than 99.99% of the hash rate with you if you're going to hard fork:

http://lists.linuxfoundation.org/pipermail/bitcoin-dev/2016-February/012396.html

I'm assuming there are literally ZERO miners left on the weaker branch.
The attacker in this scenario simply rents hashing for a few days in advance
to build his fake chain, then broadcasts the blocks to the unsuspecting
merchant at ~10 block intervals so it looks like everything is working normal
again. There are lots of mining rental services out there, and miners quite
often do not care to avoid selling hashrate to the highest bidder regardless
of what they're mining. 10 blocks worth costs a little more than 250 BTC -
soon, that will be 125 BTC.


https://www.reddit.com/r/btc/comments/44nkg3/responding_to_gavin_courtesy_bip_message_lukejr/

[–]gavinandresenGavin Andresen - Bitcoin Dev 8 points 5 days ago
That response baffled me, too.
Nothing stops somebody from trying this attack right now; you don't need a hard fork to try to Sybil attack and then feed somebody a fake chain.
It's stupid to try, you will fail...
legendary
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... you can definitely bet that there is going to be an upswing in the value of Bitcoin over the next few days, especially considering that there's already been a steady increase happening.

They'll probably just buy ETH and Monero, because doing amazingly well & safe investment -- no civil war (unlike bitcoins) Sad

 Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy
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