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Quote from: pa on February 09, 2016, 12:19:29 AM

Quote from: marcus_of_augustus on February 08, 2016, 10:49:53 PM

Quote from: BlindMayorBitcorn on February 08, 2016, 10:36:01 PM

Most downvoted comment in the whole thread. Woot?

https://www.reddit.com/r/btc/comments/44qvoz/has_blockstream_received_a_nsl/

pretty sure Gavin has been operating under the influence of a NSL since not long after his trip to the CIA ... his actions are sometimes directly opposite of what he says, his whole behaviour and demeanour screams like a warrant canary, it's like he's shaking his head and saying Yes! all the time.

This theory actually makes sense.

coinbase is in on this too ??

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Quote from: aztecminer on February 09, 2016, 10:34:11 AM

Quote from: Fatman3001 on February 09, 2016, 10:30:13 AM

How you doin there Aztec? Feeling ok?

yeah i am doing GREAT!! catching up on the thread .... how are you ??

Just don't try to catch up all at once. Gotta pace yourself, bro.

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Quote from: BitUsher on February 08, 2016, 08:43:14 AM

Quote from: Elwar on February 08, 2016, 08:36:51 AM

That's why I say, only if that is the change.

Frankly I don't understand why it would need many coders or time to change a line of code from 1mb to 2mb. I can do it quickly, just give me an hour, grep and vi.

I don't want to support a hard fork that does anything but the block size change. Throwing in last minute changes along with it is similar to politicians throwing in their shitty little laws here and there with major laws that everyone supports.

There are indeed more changes to Classic than you are implying... There necessarily has to be because simply changing maxBlockSize from 1,000,000 bytes to 2,000,000 bytes would be dangerously irresponsible and introduce new attack vectors.

Here is a list of the changes done -

https://github.com/gavinandresen/bips/blob/92e1efd0493c1cbde47304c9711f13f413cc9099/bip-bump2mb.mediawiki

What I find most deplorable about these changes is the 75% threshold and extremely small 28 day window which goes against the miners wishes of 90% . Even Bitmain's CEO believes this is too small. Softforks require 95% mining consensus for goodness sake and they want to push through a contentious hardfork at 75%.... This is essentially a political coup.

bitmain is a good straight up company.. i like those guys .

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Quote from: aztecminer on February 09, 2016, 10:34:11 AM

Quote from: Fatman3001 on February 09, 2016, 10:30:13 AM

How you doin there Aztec? Feeling ok?

yeah i am doing GREAT!! catching up on the thread .... how are you ??

Same old, same old. Nerds be arguing.

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Quote from: Fatman3001 on February 09, 2016, 10:30:13 AM

How you doin there Aztec? Feeling ok?

yeah i am doing GREAT!! catching up on the thread .... how are you ??

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Quote from: bargainbin on February 08, 2016, 08:37:08 AM

Quote from: BitUsher on February 08, 2016, 08:29:36 AM

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Segwit and classic have practically similar 0-0.25MB difference capacity differences , with segwit allowing for better longterm scaling by fixing tx malleability(something that is required for payment channels to progress) .

Logically, supporting Classic doesn't make much sense.

TL;DR: Classic takes an existing kludge (1MB limit) and changes it to 2MB. No complexity added.
Core keeps the existing kludge (1MB limit), and *adds another, horrendously convoluted kludge, just to keep the *other* kludge*.
In technical circles, this sort of thing is called "fucking retarded," "a patch on a patch."

technically we might call that a "clusterfuck" .

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How you doin there Aztec? Feeling ok?

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Quote from: Elwar on February 08, 2016, 08:36:51 AM

Quote from: BitUsher on February 08, 2016, 08:29:36 AM

Quote from: Elwar on February 08, 2016, 08:08:56 AM

It is only because of politics that people will not like Classic.

Classic is just ~~Core~~ with at 2mb block size limit.

Classic is building off the 0.11.2 branch which is soon to be outdated with 0.12.0 coming out of RC. There are many significant improvements with 0.12.0 that you will be forgoing(It is unlikely that Classic will switch over to 0.12.0 within the next 2 months) . Classic only has 2 experienced developers maintaining it where Core has 45.

Segwit and classic have practically similar capacity upgrades, with segwit allowing for better longterm scaling by fixing tx malleability(something that is required for payment channels to progress) .

Logically, supporting Classic doesn't make much sense.

That's why I say, only if that is the change.

Frankly I don't understand why it would need many coders or time to change a line of code from 1mb to 2mb. I can do it quickly, just give me an hour, grep and vi.

I don't want to support a hard fork that does anything but the block size change. Throwing in last minute changes along with it is similar to politicians throwing in their shitty little laws here and there with major laws that everyone supports.

we have a corrupt political system for sure... that probably would be a sign that bitcoin corruption has started .. although i have questioned the Marshal's Auction Pump .. i'm not sure that was a straight on the up and up .. i generally refuse to deal w people who aren't straight up .. bad for business . #shadyGimpedCoin

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Quote from: Elwar on February 08, 2016, 08:08:56 AM

It is only because of politics that people will not like Classic.

Classic is just Core with at 2mb block size limit.

As long as that statement is true I will support it. I supported XT also until Hearn added blacklisting code to it.

Core with at 2mb instead of 1mb limit is a good idea. That's just math/logic. Not politics.

I will be sure to upgrade my node (yes, I still actually run a full node) when it is fully released (as long as there are no other changes snuck in!).

good call .

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Quote from: yugo23 on February 09, 2016, 10:10:53 AM

Quote from: findftp on February 09, 2016, 09:55:26 AM

Quote from: yugo23 on February 09, 2016, 09:53:48 AM

Quote from: findftp on February 09, 2016, 09:42:21 AM

Quote from: adamstgBit on February 09, 2016, 08:26:01 AM

price is up a bit, Max leverage short now?

Whoops, I'm max leverage long! Cheesy

Would you be kind enough to tell me on which plateforme are you trading long/short?
Cause i'm looking for a new plateforme!

finex and poloniex

Thanks sir.
Gonna see what they're looking. I'm a bit tired of Kraken.

if kraken goes down it will be gox times five . ... due to the fragility of the bitcoin environment right now . #gimpedcoin

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Quote from: danielW on February 08, 2016, 07:17:25 AM

Quote from: Fatman3001 on February 08, 2016, 07:02:08 AM

Quote from: matrix zion on February 08, 2016, 06:56:41 AM

Quote from: danielW on February 08, 2016, 06:43:20 AM

Unfortunately classic is not quite dead yet.

When it is and the threat of chaotic, contentious and unnecessary (segwit is superior) hard fork is over, we can all look forward to a massive price increase (like move from 230->450 after xt collapse) and bitcoin moving forward.

These bombing runs from Gavin and coinbase are getting tiring.

I doubt they will be able to centralise bitcoin development under their control.

Why unfortunately? Isn't it always good to have different possibilities? you never know what might happen Wink

I personnally support all the coins! Classic, Core, Litecoin...

It's precisely because Bitcoin Classic isn't an alt they all go mental.

No its because I want bitcoin development lead by people who:

value decetralisation, provide features like confidential transactions etc.

as opposed to people who:

visit cia, join organisations that want to work with government to police bitcoin, float ideas like blacklists of transactions, and do not care about ordinary node users etc.

I don't want bitcoin to be crippled by these people into paypal 2.0 (except slower)

are u saying u want gavin and coinbase out ?? ... i am trying to interpret what u mean . u do not like the "blockchain blacklists" because of what reasons again ?? from what i gather from what u said, u don't like "blockchain blacklisters" or "cripplecoiners" .. that sounds like a real problem ... can u look outside your window ?? are the blacked out SUV's parked outside yet Huh

their might be a drone too watching you what you say about gavin and coinbase .

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Quote from: findftp on February 09, 2016, 09:55:26 AM

Quote from: yugo23 on February 09, 2016, 09:53:48 AM

Quote from: findftp on February 09, 2016, 09:42:21 AM

Quote from: adamstgBit on February 09, 2016, 08:26:01 AM

price is up a bit, Max leverage short now?

Whoops, I'm max leverage long! Cheesy

Would you be kind enough to tell me on which plateforme are you trading long/short?
Cause i'm looking for a new plateforme!

finex and poloniex

Thanks sir.
Gonna see what they're looking. I'm a bit tired of Kraken.

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Quote from: matrix zion on February 08, 2016, 06:56:41 AM

Quote from: danielW on February 08, 2016, 06:43:20 AM

Unfortunately classic is not quite dead yet.

When it is and the threat of chaotic, contentious and unnecessary (segwit is superior) hard fork is over, we can all look forward to a massive price increase (like move from 230->450 after xt collapse) and bitcoin moving forward.

These bombing runs from Gavin and coinbase are getting tiring.

I doubt they will be able to centralise bitcoin development under their control.

Why unfortunately? Isn't it always good to have different possibilities? you never know what might happen Wink

I personnally support all the coins! Classic, Core, Litecoin...

Pure ..

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Quote from: danielW on February 08, 2016, 06:43:20 AM

Unfortunately classic is not quite dead yet.

When it is and the threat of chaotic, contentious and unnecessary (segwit is superior) hard fork is over, we can all look forward to a massive price increase (like move from 230->450 after xt collapse) and bitcoin moving forward.

These bombing runs from Gavin and coinbase are getting tiring.

I doubt they will be able to centralise bitcoin development under their control.

gavin and coinbase huh ?? that first time i heard that.. but it makes sense .

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Quote from: yugo23 on February 09, 2016, 09:53:48 AM

Quote from: findftp on February 09, 2016, 09:42:21 AM

Quote from: adamstgBit on February 09, 2016, 08:26:01 AM

price is up a bit, Max leverage short now?

Whoops, I'm max leverage long! Cheesy

Would you be kind enough to tell me on which plateforme are you trading long/short?
Cause i'm looking for a new plateforme!

finex and poloniex

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Quote from: findftp on February 09, 2016, 09:42:21 AM

Quote from: adamstgBit on February 09, 2016, 08:26:01 AM

price is up a bit, Max leverage short now?

Whoops, I'm max leverage long! Cheesy

Would you be kind enough to tell me on which plateforme are you trading long/short?
Cause i'm looking for a new plateforme!

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Quote from: adamstgBit on February 09, 2016, 08:26:01 AM

price is up a bit, Max leverage short now?

Whoops, I'm max leverage long! Cheesy

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Quote from: marcus_of_augustus on February 08, 2016, 04:28:30 PM

Quote from: Wekkel on February 08, 2016, 03:18:05 PM

Quote from: blunderer on February 08, 2016, 03:02:48 PM

Quote from: barbs on February 08, 2016, 03:01:33 PM

i got my bids in the 320s

Could take weeks tho.

Or never happen....

BTC is holding up ok in this medium term down move (and oscillators are bottoming).

this. Next move is up and looking like it could be quite powerful as Crassic is getting #R3KT as quick as XT was ... basically DOA.

Peace in the dev community and the peanut gallery gets banned from dev discussion ... full steam ahead for the rocket train.

Gold Up, Bitcoin collapsing.

edit: http://xtnodes.com/ crassic train #R3K in progress, just fyi.

is not a problem... BitcoinPure releases next tuesday.

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