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Lambie is actually on the ball here. Bitcoin's best use case is illicit transactions. It's a tool to reduce the power states have over their subjects. The overhead involved only makes sense if  you can't rely on a central power to keep people in line.

IOW, if you're fine with how the political process works in your jurisdiction, and see no need to curtail the economic powers of the state, I don't see what good Bitcoin is to you apart from speculating on the price. I doubt it's actually more efficient than VISA all things considered, for example.

(Disclaimer: not read Yrpaper's contributions, so apologies if this has been covered)

I agree up to a point - evading capital controls, sure (step forward, China). When it comes to Lambie and illegal transactions, the wee soul has an obsession with drugs and kiddie porn. At least with drugs, cash is king in my city - people wouldn't risk drugs being posted to them and tend to scorn Silk Road and similar. And they'd point out you can't roll up 20 BTC to hoover a mirror, waiting for a BTC transaction is frustrating in a crowded, dark nightclub, etc.

Maybe kiddie porn is different, I dunno. The folk who get caught seem to get caught through their use of the Internet, so maybe. The British paedophile Jimmy Saville apparently never owned a computer because he thought people might see through his mask, but he's possibly the exception.
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Lambie is actually on the ball here. Bitcoin's best use case is illicit transactions. It's a tool to reduce the power states have over their subjects. The overhead involved only makes sense if  you can't rely on a central power to keep people in line.

IOW, if you're fine with how the political process works in your jurisdiction, and see no need to curtail the economic powers of the state, I don't see what good Bitcoin is to you apart from speculating on the price. I doubt it's actually more efficient than VISA all things considered, for example.
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Lambie seems more retarded than usual. Are they working shifts?

Yrpapers? Dunno, I've started putting any new posters here on ignore - I feel guilty about the false positives, but not that guilty. There's been a couple of times I've been drawn into a conversation and half way through had my ovine suspicions confirmed and ended up sticking the wee lamb's latest alt on ignore.
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Make Bitcoin glow with ENIAC

Lambie seems more retarded than usual. Are they working shifts?
legendary
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Make Bitcoin glow with ENIAC
IBM, Linux foundation and big banks launch Open Ledger Project:
http://www.coindesk.com/ibm-launches-open-source-blockchain-project-backed-by-linux-and-big-banks/
I wonder if the Chinese care about this, if they do they should dump hard.

Isn't it still a closed centralized system?

Is it just me, or is the idea of a proprietary blockchain silly? If validation is done by only a few, or just one, party, why not just have a database?

I'm guessing they want all the good stuff without all the bad stuff.

But the thing is you can have all the good stuff without all the bad stuff on the Bitcoin blockchain. You don't have to buy drugs or finance terrorism with your coins. If you buy coins from a regulated exchange and sell them at a regulated exchange, and don't screw up in between, you're good.

An american diplomat who was talking about US/EU relations was quoted quoting Lenin: "Trust is good, control is better".

Corporations are creatures of habit.
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contracorriente
IBM, Linux foundation and big banks launch Open Ledger Project:
http://www.coindesk.com/ibm-launches-open-source-blockchain-project-backed-by-linux-and-big-banks/
I wonder if the Chinese care about this, if they do they should dump hard.

There is already a true decentralize proyect called https://openledger.info/

These dinosaurs have no clue of whats going on, they all will vanish like the rome empire and the new system will be just decentralize everything, and bitcoin will be the core.  Grin
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IBM, Linux foundation and big banks launch Open Ledger Project:
http://www.coindesk.com/ibm-launches-open-source-blockchain-project-backed-by-linux-and-big-banks/
I wonder if the Chinese care about this, if they do they should dump hard.

Isn't it still a closed centralized system?

Is it just me, or is the idea of a proprietary blockchain silly? If validation is done by only a few, or just one, party, why not just have a database?
legendary
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Make Bitcoin glow with ENIAC
Just buy some bitcoins and move out of that shithole when we've reached the moon.
Now that's a whole other can of worms mate. Cant move.

I have a bunch of suggestions, but I'm pretty sure they're all illegal.

Should we take this conversation to Tor and start a dog shipping to north Korea revolution?

Why waste them sending them to Korea?

Dogs are great with a little kimchi over a bed of rice. Bbq dog knot is a delicacy.

Let the North Koreans eat some dick. I don't think that's much to ask for.

IBM, Linux foundation and big banks launch Open Ledger Project:
http://www.coindesk.com/ibm-launches-open-source-blockchain-project-backed-by-linux-and-big-banks/
I wonder if the Chinese care about this, if they do they should dump hard.

Isn't it still a closed centralized system?

It will be and it wont be able to transfer wealth on the scale that bitcoin will be doing. It may work in between a few companies  but not for sending money around the world like we do with bitcoin today.


That seems to be the issue with all of these closed systems. Not to mention, I wouldn't want to have my IoT devices depend on the interests or profitability of a company like IBM, Intel or JP Morgan.
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Just buy some bitcoins and move out of that shithole when we've reached the moon.
Now that's a whole other can of worms mate. Cant move.

I have a bunch of suggestions, but I'm pretty sure they're all illegal.

Should we take this conversation to Tor and start a dog shipping to north Korea revolution?

Why waste them sending them to Korea?

Dogs are great with a little kimchi over a bed of rice. Bbq dog knot is a delicacy.

Let the North Koreans eat some dick. I don't think that's much to ask for.

IBM, Linux foundation and big banks launch Open Ledger Project:
http://www.coindesk.com/ibm-launches-open-source-blockchain-project-backed-by-linux-and-big-banks/
I wonder if the Chinese care about this, if they do they should dump hard.

Isn't it still a closed centralized system?

It will be and it wont be able to transfer wealth on the scale that bitcoin will be doing. It may work in between a few companies  but not for sending money around the world like we do with bitcoin today.
legendary
Activity: 1554
Merit: 1014
Make Bitcoin glow with ENIAC
Just buy some bitcoins and move out of that shithole when we've reached the moon.
Now that's a whole other can of worms mate. Cant move.

I have a bunch of suggestions, but I'm pretty sure they're all illegal.

Should we take this conversation to Tor and start a dog shipping to north Korea revolution?

Why waste them sending them to Korea?

Dogs are great with a little kimchi over a bed of rice. Bbq dog knot is a delicacy.

Let the North Koreans eat some dick. I don't think that's much to ask for.

IBM, Linux foundation and big banks launch Open Ledger Project:
http://www.coindesk.com/ibm-launches-open-source-blockchain-project-backed-by-linux-and-big-banks/
I wonder if the Chinese care about this, if they do they should dump hard.

Isn't it still a closed centralized system?
ImI
legendary
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so stable, so strong, so willgothrough500
legendary
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IBM, Linux foundation and big banks launch Open Ledger Project:
http://www.coindesk.com/ibm-launches-open-source-blockchain-project-backed-by-linux-and-big-banks/
I wonder if the Chinese care about this, if they do they should dump hard.
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Bitcoin is in stall mode?

It was stalling in Bitfinex so the stall-recovery procedures were implemented and now it's slowly regaining altitude thanks also to the Chinese who cleave the air.
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Just buy some bitcoins and move out of that shithole when we've reached the moon.
Now that's a whole other can of worms mate. Cant move.

I have a bunch of suggestions, but I'm pretty sure they're all illegal.

Should we take this conversation to Tor and start a dog shipping to north Korea revolution?

Why waste them sending them to Korea?

Dogs are great with a little kimchi over a bed of rice. Bbq dog knot is a delicacy.

I don't know too many westerners who would do that though. North Korea seems a likely buyer of bulk though.
legendary
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You lead and I'll watch you walk away.
Just buy some bitcoins and move out of that shithole when we've reached the moon.
Now that's a whole other can of worms mate. Cant move.

I have a bunch of suggestions, but I'm pretty sure they're all illegal.

Should we take this conversation to Tor and start a dog shipping to north Korea revolution?

Why waste them sending them to Korea?

Dogs are great with a little kimchi over a bed of rice. Bbq dog knot is a delicacy.
sr. member
Activity: 375
Merit: 250
Just buy some bitcoins and move out of that shithole when we've reached the moon.
Now that's a whole other can of worms mate. Cant move.

I have a bunch of suggestions, but I'm pretty sure they're all illegal.

Should we take this conversation to Tor and start a dog shipping to north Korea revolution?

hmmmmm....

hhhhmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.............

hhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmMMMMMMMHMMMMMMMMMMMMMmmmmmmmmmm.....

nah, too much work.

But the dogs dude. We need to rid the dogs.  Cry Grin
On another note. Bitcoin is in stall mode?
legendary
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legendary
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Let's see $32kilo already Cool
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It may not be entirely useless as traders, by thinking of having found a pattern and following it catch the attention of other traders who, surmising the same, reinforce the scheme in a self-fulfilling prophecy.
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