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Harry Potter fans are no threat to anyone. Ethnic groups, however...

The world has limited resources, whatever the masses want to believe. Humans have always competed, group to group, and that won't change. It's hardcoded on a genetic level. The only thing that changes is the precise form it takes. And this is the root of racism. Without racism it would not be possible to kill another people, but it would still be very possible to be killed. And so racism is a trait of evolutionary winners. And the immigrants are very, very racist. If we don't fight back, we will die out.

In Europe we've been killing each other for millennia and this wasn't due to skin colour shades. In the US volunteers regularly carry out executions with no distinction.
A human can easily kill another human being simply by inhibiting his or her empathic instincts.
About the world resources scarcity, this is a different matter. We're either too many or too inefficient, but our problem has been experienced countless times by other species: the depletion of resources which then become the limiting factor.
We fight whoever is closest or the biggest threat or the most convenient at the time. The more globalized the world has become the bigger groups we have formed. Nothing changes, we still fight. Only now the enemy is within our own borders. And it's not even the immigrants themselves, they are just a symptom.
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That is the sort of horrible simplification that "scientific racists" must make to justify the concept of "race".

Good one, Stolfi.  You're way more fringe leftist than I imagined, trying to claim that anyone acknolwedging different ethnic groups or races exist at all is a "scientific racist".  The word "racist" isn't even a valid word in the first place because it implies everyone on earth is identical to one another.  

Read it and weep you anti-Bitcoin Marxist:  

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mainstream_Science_on_Intelligence

No scientific evidence exists whatsoever to back up your points, none.  The only evidence that exists points to the opposite of what you claim, because all that matters is the bell curve, not outliers.

(The term "Caucasian", by the way, is a relic from "scientific" racial classifications of the 19th century.)

Oh joy, now anyone filling in the word "caucasian" for race on the census is now a "19th century racist".  You are a true self hating, far leftist, anti-white racist yourself posting garbage like this.  You're not allowed to be a Caucasian because "Caucasian" is a relic, hence bad!  Nobody on earth is allowed to be different from one another.  Everyone must be identical, Marxism commands it!  Also, reject Bitcoin, worship fiat!

There are known natural mechanisms that allow such jumping, and they have been adapted for genetic engineering.  Again, it if such accident happens only once in a million years, that may be sufficient to transfer a gene from one to all individuals of a completely different species.)

Probably mutation + convergent evolution, which is why if life is discovered on other planets, it would likely be similar to what exists here or in the past.


In cultures that did not have African slavery for many centuries, or which for some reason never adopted the "one drop rule", skin color is perceived as a continuous variable that is either irrelevant, or does not trigger discrimination at some magic level.

Please cut the slavery BS.  Brazil didn't even get rid of slavery completely until TWENTY FIVE YEARS after the emancipation proclamation in the US.  Hilarious that you would actually bring this up while trying to demonize North America.  The Roman empire also had more white slaves than black slaves ever to exist.  Anyone trying to play the slavery card is a pathetic propagandist.  The basis of the so called "one drop rule" was most likely due to white genes being recessive.

The natural order of human grouping is individual > family > tribe/village > city state of ethnocentric majority

Without an ethnocentric majority, the nation state collapses.  Every country on earth that doesn't collapse enacts similar policy, such as the Japanese attempt to regulate immigration and maintain their demographic.  The US had the same laws until Jewish lobbyists got the immigration act of 1965 thrown away.  They wanted their diaspora from all over the globe to be allowed in, and they see homogenous civilizations as a threat to their existence.  There's a reason places like China (the Han) and Japan have existed for so long, because they're mostly homogenous civilizations.  America will inevitably implode because Marxists constantly try to push the lie that "diversity is strength", when it's actually a weakness that causes social unrest and implosion.

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Harry Potter fans are no threat to anyone. Ethnic groups, however...

The world has limited resources, whatever the masses want to believe. Humans have always competed, group to group, and that won't change. It's hardcoded on a genetic level. The only thing that changes is the precise form it takes. And this is the root of racism. Without racism it would not be possible to kill another people, but it would still be very possible to be killed. And so racism is a trait of evolutionary winners. And the immigrants are very, very racist. If we don't fight back, we will die out.

In Europe we've been killing each other for millennia and this wasn't due to skin colour shades. In the US volunteers regularly carry out executions with no distinction.
A human can easily kill another human being simply by inhibiting his or her empathic instincts.
About the world resources scarcity, this is a different matter. We're either too many or too inefficient, but our problem has been experienced countless times by other species: the depletion of resources which then become the limiting factor.
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First, there is no such thing as "white genes" and "black genes".  

I am not sure what he means by "supermodel genes" anyway. It's not like there haven't been/aren't black supermodels. Their ages are apparently around 11 and 6 so it looks like she's already getting a good start on being tall enough.
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And that survey (like many in the early days of DNA analysis) only looked at mitochondria or the Y chromosome, that are inherited from father or mother respectively and thus are easier to analyze.
I think you meant it the other way around.

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Since white genes are recessive, the white race would not exist if this ratio was higher.  Due to this, whether your Marxist mind acknowledges it or not, if you advocate that everyone on earth interbreed with each other with no regards to race, you are in fact advocating white genocide due to white genes (and Asian) being recessive.

It's pretty easy to verify this with virtually any interracial relationship that exists.  Take Heidi Klum for example.  Here's her with two of her kids, each from different fathers.  She's supposed to be a supermodel, yet has passed along virtually none of those supermodel genes onto one child, while clearly having done so for the other.  This is because white genes are recessive and it's hard to even tell the child on the left is related to her at all.  



First, there is no such thing as "white genes" and "black genes".  There are genes that produce the black skin pigment (an essential protection against sunlight), which are broken or inhibited in people with "white" skin.  There are other genes for eye color, hair color, hair wave, etc.  The frequency of those genes is very different among populations that have lived for millenia in relative isolation in northern Europe and Southern Africa (which can be explained by well-known environmental factors, as well as by random drift).  Hence, indeed, when individuals from those populations are brought together to the same place, the differences are visually striking.  But There are many more genes whose effects cannot be seen and do not significantly affect survival.  There are also many variants of the same gene whose effects are hard or impossible to see visually, and both populations have mixtures of the same variants.    

Some of your so-called "white" genes are indeed recessive (like blue eye color), but others are dominant, or have partial effect when two variants are present.  But a recessive variant of a gene is not "lost" when it gets paired with a dominant one: the children of two back-eyed persons may be blue-eyed.  Ditto for black or blond hair, curly or straight hair, etc..

The important point is that linkage between genes is limited and weak.  Therefore, when a "white" population mixes with a "black" one, the first generation children will have one copy of each kind for each gene, but after a couple of generations there will be all combinations -- WW, WB, and BB -- for each gene independently.   But the independence of gene mixing, by itself, would imply that racial classifications are meaningless, so "racial scientists" have conveniently developed a blind spot at that place in their minds.

As for that picture, it proves only that Americans have a high incidence of some peculiar genetic defect in their visual system, that renders them unable to perceive gradations of skin color and other "racial" traits.  A functioning non-American eye will see that the child at left has a mixture of skin color genes that results in a light brown skin, surely much lighter than the skin color of her African slave ancestor.   And you can be sure that she has close to a 50% mix of genes from her two parents, just like the child at right (apart from mitochondial genes and those in the X chromosomes, which they inherited from the mother alone).
Damn straight
legendary
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Americans have a high incidence of some peculiar genetic defect in their visual system, that renders them unable to perceive gradations of skin color and other "racial" traits.

Americans are no different than any other group in their perceptive abilities in this regard - but some groups have sociopolitical reasons to make Black/White race a binary condition...

During the days when legally-enforced segregation was practiced in some states, the motivation was obvious.  Interestingly, in Louisiana, where the culture was different because of having been a French colony, they did have a graduated system of racial classification, with some people being classified as "octaroons" or "quadroons", etc. based on what part of their ancestry was black.

There has always been a resistance to acceptance of multi-racialism from the Black community in general too.  Multiracial people who were seen to be 'passing as white' were greatly despised by other blacks - and even now, most Americans who have Black heritage strongly resist being identified as anything except Black.

There are exceptions - I know Tiger Woods has stated before (much to the chagrin of many in the Black community) that he does not self-identify as a 'black golfer', and I believe Russel Wilson of the Seattle Seahawks has made similar statements, so maybe things are changing.
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Humans are not logical creatures with feelings. We are emotional animals with the ability to rationalize. Forget your fantasies and focus on reality. Racism is a core part of what makes humans human, and those who lack it will be replaced by those who do.

Sure, we aren't robots (thankfully) but if you're not indoctrinated in a vulnerable phase when your mind is still in formation, that is, during childhood, you probably won't blow yourself up because a fantasy book says that you'll get 7 (77?) virgins at your disposal if you kill "infidels".
From a group-competitive perspective, it makes perfect sense. One of theirs for a dozen or more of ours is a good deal, evolutionary speaking.

The pivotal point is the creation of killers through indoctrination. There are many groups who can coexist peacefully: Harry Potter fans, "beliebers", even bitcoiners (actually for the last one I have some doubts) and they do no harm. They are welcome to expand their member base as they please. The issue is when you have to confront brainwashed fundamentalists, and you can solve the problem only by sparing the younglings the same treatment.
Harry Potter fans are no threat to anyone. Ethnic groups, however...

The world has limited resources, whatever the masses want to believe. Humans have always competed, group to group, and that won't change. It's hardcoded on a genetic level. The only thing that changes is the precise form it takes. And this is the root of racism. Without racism it would not be possible to kill another people, but it would still be very possible to be killed. And so racism is a trait of evolutionary winners. And the immigrants are very, very racist. If we don't fight back, we will die out.
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"Now the whole world stands on the brink staring down into bloody hell. All those liberals, and intellectuals, and smooth-talkers; and all of a sudden no one can think of anything to say."

Nah, won't be like that at all. You'll still be a bitter, angry little shit. Some black d00d will prob'ly make you his bitch, without Nanny State to protect you Smiley
It is amazing how you rabbits project. I understand that it is an instinctive defense mechanism to keep from losing your mind, but I never quite get used to it.

Riiiight.
Now hush! Put your li'l white hand in Leroy's back pocket and call him daddy Smiley
I don't know what that means. What I do understand is that you have not made meaningful (if any) preparations for what is coming. This pleases me. You will get what you pretend to want.
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Humans are not logical creatures with feelings. We are emotional animals with the ability to rationalize. Forget your fantasies and focus on reality. Racism is a core part of what makes humans human, and those who lack it will be replaced by those who do.

Sure, we aren't robots (thankfully) but if you're not indoctrinated in a vulnerable phase when your mind is still in formation, that is, during childhood, you probably won't blow yourself up because a fantasy book says that you'll get 7 (77?) virgins at your disposal if you kill "infidels".
From a group-competitive perspective, it makes perfect sense. One of theirs for a dozen or more of ours is a good deal, evolutionary speaking.

The pivotal point is the creation of killers through indoctrination. There are many groups who can coexist peacefully: Harry Potter fans, "beliebers", even bitcoiners (actually for the last one I have some doubts) and they do no harm. They are welcome to expand their member base as they please. The issue is when you have to confront brainwashed fundamentalists, and you can solve the problem only by sparing the younglings the same treatment.
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hey -  off topic  (but what isn't these days)    but is this true?

Bibles are forbidden anywhere inside Saudi Arabia, the "offence" being punishable by death.
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Race is a real and not imaginary construct.  There were seven main haplogroups in Africa, L0-L6.  L3 split into haplogroup M & N.  N being the precursor to caucasians, and M being the precursor to everything else not African.  The amount of time that haplogroup M+N have been separated from L is something like 100,000 years.  It's not a question of "do races exist", or "are races different", it's only a question of how large of changes can occur in that time span.

That is the sort of horrible simplification that "scientific racists" must make to justify the concept of "race".  In those 100 000 years many things happened, such as the peopling of South Asia (Indonesia, Polynesia, etc.) by Neanderthans and other "early humans", then by Negrito-like people, then by "Asians" and "Caucasians" ---with countless mixings and migrations.  

(The term "Caucasian", by the way, is a relic from "scientific" racial classifications of the 19th century.)

Darwin's Origin of the Species impressed on the collective mind the idea that species evolve by branching out in tree-like fashion.  Unconsiously, scientists in several other disciplines assumed that their objects of study also evolved by splitting in tree-like fashion.  Disciplines where this mistake is endemic include linguistics, history of religions --- and "scientific racism".

However, the branching tree model is not totally accurate even for species.  Today we know several instances of "horizontal transmission" -- genes jumping between separate branches of the evolutionary tree.  (The tunicates, for example, are a group of species that is high up on the animal branch of the tree, indeed the last branch to split off before the vertebrates; but somehow it acquired genes that enable it to make cellulose -- a feature that is otherwise exclusive of plants.  It is believed that some common ancestor of the tunicates somehow incorporated a bit of algal DNA in its own genome.  There are known natural mechanisms that allow such jumping, and they have been adapted for genetic engineering.  Again, if such an accident happens only once in a million years, that may be sufficient to transfer a gene from one species to all individuals of a completely different species.)

While the branching-tree model is still mostly valid for species, with relatively few exceptions, it is poorly matched to languages, and totally wrong for "races" (or religions).  Human populations have continuously split, joined, and mixed through those 100 000 years.   Even in historic times Europe and Central Asia witnessed dozens of major genetic/population moves  (Indo-Europeans, Greek, Roman, Turks, Muslims, Mongols, "Barbarians").  Same in East Asia, Oceania, and the Amerias.  As I noted, even the "modern men" who took over Europe some 30'000 years ago interbred with the Neanderthals who had been there for twice as long or more.  

Maps of gene frequencies can be used to guess the migrations in broad terms, but they cannot be used to classify individuals into discrete races.  In each population (country, region, ethnic group), the frequency of any marker is almost never 0% or 100%

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In America, plenty of Caucasian and Africans live near each other, yet the interbreeding between groups is something miniscule under 5%.

Well, genetic surveys of Brazilians with white skin who believed themselves to be pure "white" (and often had prejudice against "blacks") showed much larger propostion of African genes (40% if I well remember).  And that survey (like many in the early days of DNA analysis) only looked at mitochondria or the Y chromosome, that are inherited from father or mother respectively and thus are easier to analyze.  But, for the same reason, those analyses fail to measure the true level of mixture in the population.  (The myth of the "Seven Eves of Europe" is the sort of nonsense that people can get from badly interpreting such partial studies.)

The 5% that you quote as the US interbreeding, if correct, may reflect the percentage of "whites"  with "black" genes, and would be a consequence of the "one drop rule" that (until recently) pushed the children of mixed marriages into the "black" corral.   Surely the numbers are very different among the US "blacks".

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Since white genes are recessive, the white race would not exist if this ratio was higher.  Due to this, whether your Marxist mind acknowledges it or not, if you advocate that everyone on earth interbreed with each other with no regards to race, you are in fact advocating white genocide due to white genes (and Asian) being recessive.

It's pretty easy to verify this with virtually any interracial relationship that exists.  Take Heidi Klum for example.  Here's her with two of her kids, each from different fathers.  She's supposed to be a supermodel, yet has passed along virtually none of those supermodel genes onto one child, while clearly having done so for the other.  This is because white genes are recessive and it's hard to even tell the child on the left is related to her at all.  



First, there is no such thing as "white genes" and "black genes".  There are genes that produce the black skin pigment (an essential protection against sunlight), which are broken or inhibited in people with "white" skin.  There are other genes for eye color, hair color, hair wave, etc.  The frequency of those genes is very different among populations that have lived for millenia in relative isolation in northern Europe and Southern Africa (which can be explained by well-known environmental factors, as well as by random drift).  Hence, indeed, when individuals from those populations are brought together to the same place, the differences are visually striking.  But There are many more genes whose effects cannot be seen and do not significantly affect survival.  There are also many variants of the same gene whose effects are hard or impossible to see visually, and both populations have mixtures of the same variants.    

Some of your so-called "white" genes are indeed recessive (like blue eye color), but others are dominant, or have partial effect when two variants are present.  But a recessive variant of a gene is not "lost" when it gets paired with a dominant one: the children of two back-eyed persons may be blue-eyed.  Ditto for black or blond hair, curly or straight hair, etc..

The important point is that linkage between genes is limited and weak.  Therefore, when a "white" population mixes with a "black" one, the first generation children will have one copy of each kind for each gene, but after a couple of generations there will be all combinations -- WW, WB, and BB -- for each gene independently.   But the independence of gene mixing, by itself, would imply that racial classifications are meaningless, so "racial scientists" have conveniently developed a blind spot at that place in their minds.

As for that picture, it proves only that Americans have a high incidence of some peculiar genetic defect in their visual system, that renders them unable to perceive gradations of skin color and other "racial" traits.  A functioning non-American eye will see that the child at left has a mixture of skin color genes that results in a light brown skin, surely much lighter than the skin color of her African slave ancestor.   And you can be sure that she has close to a 50% mix of genes from her two parents, just like the child at right (apart from mitochondial genes and those in the X chromosomes, which they inherited from the mother alone).

Even among US "blacks", a non-American eye can see many shades of skin pigmentation.  In cultures that did not have African slavery for many centuries, or which for some reason never adopted the "one drop rule", skin color is perceived as a continuous variable that is either irrelevant, or does not trigger discrimination at some magic level.

As for anecdotal examples, one of my favorites is a finale of a 40 km Olympic marathon race that I watched many years ago, where the first three to finish were an Italian, a Japanese, and an African (forgot the country, sorry) -- all within a few meters from each other.  I take that as evidence that, even with regards to physical stamina -- where genetics could be expected to play an important role -- the differences between those three "races" were on the order of 1 part in 10'000.   Cheesy
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Nah, won't be like that at all. You'll still be a bitter, angry little shit. Some black d00d will prob'ly make you his bitch, without Nanny State to protect you Smiley

Thank you for revealing the source and funding of your 5000 paid, anti-Bitcoin, spam accounts, "lambchop/other aliases".  Besides the pro-fiat, anti-bitcoin stance, the part where you become enraged by people not accepting domination by cultural Marxism was key in figuring it out.

Have fun receiving this reply anytime you make a new spam acct!
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I subscribe everything you said. The real solution would be eradicating relics which should be consigned to the dustbin of history: namely fanaticism and religion (any religion) through reason, but this is my very own point of view and far less likely.

Humans are regular animals.  Dogs bark at themselves in the mirror for no reason.  Some people do similar things.  The ones who try to classify humans as some type of creature far above the scope of the common animal will be the first to die once the Obama economy implodes.  In the words of The Watchmen movie, "Now the whole world stands on the brink staring down into bloody hell. All those liberals, and intellectuals, and smooth-talkers; and all of a sudden no one can think of anything to say."



Stop drugs and talk about bitcoin please.

Not much to talk about.  Price is flatlining.  Bitcoin enthusiasts suddenly need something else to fill the time.  
legendary
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Humans are not logical creatures with feelings. We are emotional animals with the ability to rationalize. Forget your fantasies and focus on reality. Racism is a core part of what makes humans human, and those who lack it will be replaced by those who do.

Sure, we aren't robots (thankfully) but if you're not indoctrinated in a vulnerable phase when your mind is still in formation, that is, during childhood, you probably won't blow yourself up because a fantasy book says that you'll get 7 (77?) virgins at your disposal if you kill "infidels".
From a group-competitive perspective, it makes perfect sense. One of theirs for a dozen or more of ours is a good deal, evolutionary speaking.
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Self-Custody is a right. Say no to"Non-custodial"
all in b4 massive pump of all time.

Hm?  not sure if I see it.   Undecided
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all in b4 massive pump of all time.

Oh shit, down we'll go Grin
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Humans are not logical creatures with feelings. We are emotional animals with the ability to rationalize. Forget your fantasies and focus on reality. Racism is a core part of what makes humans human, and those who lack it will be replaced by those who do.

Sure, we aren't robots (thankfully) but if you're not indoctrinated in a vulnerable phase when your mind is still in formation, that is, during childhood, you probably won't blow yourself up because a fantasy book says that you'll get 7 (77?) virgins at your disposal if you kill "infidels".
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"Now the whole world stands on the brink staring down into bloody hell. All those liberals, and intellectuals, and smooth-talkers; and all of a sudden no one can think of anything to say."

Nah, won't be like that at all. You'll still be a bitter, angry little shit. Some black d00d will prob'ly make you his bitch, without Nanny State to protect you Smiley
It is amazing how you rabbits project. I understand that it is an instinctive defense mechanism to keep from losing your mind, but I never quite get used to it.
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Nope. Who is at fault are those who decided to pick up weapons and strap on suicide vests. The question is how to best mitigate those. I don't really see that "race" factors into it though.

It'd be nice, but a world free of terrorism is unlikely. If the relevant state vigilance is weak results of this kind are inevitable.

It is unlikely in any case. I'm especially wary of unchecked immigration. Now, don't get me wrong, I'm an immigrant myself and have counted amongst my friends people from many races, cultures and religions and celebrate many of the things that exist in my life because of it. Assimilation is key though and France especially has allowed enclaves to develop where ideals that run counter to the ethos of western secularism have been allowed to build. Any realistic level of vigilance less than panopticon-levels will have trouble with that.

I subscribe everything you said. The real solution would be eradicating relics which should be consigned to the dustbin of history: namely fanaticism and religion (any religion) through reason, but this is my very own point of view and far less likely.
Humans are not logical creatures with feelings. We are emotional animals with the ability to rationalize. Forget your fantasies and focus on reality. Racism is a core part of what makes humans human, and those who lack it will be replaced by those who do.
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