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mmh.. looks a bit like 26xxx next and rebound at 25xxx.... 

All in all, I feel this cool-down after the recent rally is a good thing
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Self-Custody is a right. Say no to"Non-custodial"
The MiCA regulation in Europa has passed the votes. It will take effect in 2024.

https://www.coindesk.com/policy/2023/04/20/eu-parliament-approves-crypto-licensing-funds-transfer-rules/

anybody knows if this affects non-custodial wallets and (private) onchain transfers?

You can continue to do what you want. As soon as you use an official money transmitter, you have to do KYC from  a transfer sum of €1000.
That is the status today. So what will the future bring?  Roll Eyes

The future may well bring a bunch of scofflaw.

Maybe a few people here should read the "First they came" poem by M. Niemoller...
...it's quite relevant despite a multitude of the opposite opinions on this forum.
I learned it in high school, decades ago.  It was good life advice for me.

As I understand it, you try to draw a connection between Niemöller's saying and this Bitcoin/shitcoin/Gensler talk, no?

I might get you wrong, but do you wanna imply that Bitcoiners should speak out in favor of shitcoins, like mEth, in order to avoid being the next on the list who the state is coming for ?

If yes, primarily prepare for JJG's batslap  Grin  and secondarily I think it's a not so accurate comparison:

Yeah.. I am not totally opposed to some of the points that Biodom is attempting to make, but at the same time, I do see a lot of the shitcoiners trying to suggest variations of their bullshit that "we're in this together"  blah blah blah.

At the same time, I do see some various ways that there seems to be some unfairness in the whole matter regarding some of the ambiguities.. I am still not quite clear about solutions.. even though you are likely not going to find me cheering for regulators, either - who seem to be all over the place and have a lot of their own internal contradictions in the ways that they are speaking about matters and going after enforcement while not going after enforcement at the same time (they seem to be in a bit of a pickle.. but I am not really crying about their seemingly pickle, either),... so there is a bit of a dilemma for a lot of us in terms of how to consider the ways of the world and the various ambiguities in confusing transitionary periods like this.

The Nazis came for their opponents...
but most shitcoins like mEth are no opponent for the fiat system, because they support exactly the same power structure, (power of the rich) by POS, pre-mine etc.

And.. if Bitcoin is seen as an enemy, it will be so, no matter if shitcoins exist or not.  It's not the same animal.

Fair point.. though I don't know if it makes me sleep better.    Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

Also the Nazis came to put humans into camps or to kill them...
imo inadequate to compare that to regulators who come for illegal securities scams and try to get them registered in a way that any other non-scammy product has to take

However, anyone feel free to vocally support shitcoins in order to save Bitcoin from the state..
But I think that logic is flawed.
It makes only sense, if you are a shitcoiner and don't get the difference between Bitcoin and shitcoins... but even Gensler gets it, what brings me back to my OP

Edit:
You think he will stop at shitcoins...that's laughable.
maybe I got your writing wrong idk...

I think as for now Gensler stopped at shitcoins, because Bitcoin is no security.  And that is good for BTC.  
I don't know how he will act in the future.. maybe he will get pressured by "someone" to attack BTC as well... who knows ... I'll be watching Wink

As bitcoiners, we cannot completely detach from these matters, and I am not even opposed to fucking around with shitcoins and gambling with them or making money from them or even attempting to use them to convolute matters - including my own transactions or having transaction options, but I am not going to cry if they are getting beaten up in a variety of ways.. and I am not going to invest into them as if they were the same as bitcoin (like a sound money that has various built in censorship resistances), but even many of us bitcoiners realize that bitcoin has various weak points in which it might overlap with fiat or even end up overlapping with various shitcoins in terms of if we might be transacting with bitcoin but then being precluded from various on and off ramps, and surely one solution might be to figure out some peer to peer mechanism, but there might be various kinds of bridges that might involve shitcoins.. but that still does not mean that it is good to invest in those various shitcoin bridges.. or to promote them.. .. but then at the same time, it still is not going to be exactly straight forward - even when communication channels are sometimes infiltrated.. and some of us might have not even started to experiment with Nostr yet.. (not to be promoting another communication channel, here.... and maybe even the forum might end up having some necessary ties that it might need to make in terms of transitioning in ways that it might not be able to be attacked if we say things that might be threatening to the powers that be that want  us to prop up the various Philip (I mean fiat) systems)...
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Here's a source regarding my previous post, btw:

EU lawmakers approve world’s first comprehensive framework for crypto regulation

I'm trying to see who voted for this Draconian law, by checking the EU Parliament site, only found roll call results in French, for Thursday, 20 April 2023: https://www.europarl.europa.eu/plenary/en/votes.html?tab=votes
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Been shoveling all day, pony stable groundwork.

Here's a source regarding my previous post, btw:

EU lawmakers approve world’s first comprehensive framework for crypto regulation

Is that good or bad in your opinion?

I'm one of the people who think government should keep its dirty hands out of private property, which bitcoin is. The way I see it all regulation is bad.
The EU wants more KYC and more paid licenses, that's what it's all about.
Next step - they'll reach into pockets of private users and demand them to declare their bitcoin wallets so they can assign each address to a name.
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So we have two different opinions here ...buddy...   I hope you can live with that  


Can you live with that yourself?

Consider shitcoins a different opinion, perhaps.

Imagine a stock market with one stock-is that your "vision"?
If there is ONLY bitcoin and nothing else, the next thing is governments crushing bitcoin.
In essence, shitcoins "shitcoinery" puts bitcoin in a positive spotlight as it clearly did during FTX and Luna fiascos.

Good point. Basically let the best idea win in the market... I like that.

However, comparing unregistered securities (shitcoins) with registered securities (stocks) lacks in logic imo.
The former are more or less scams and the latter are an investment vehicle following all together the same general rules for transparency.
Having a lot of different stocks is good for the market  ...having a lot of scams is not  


And btw I don't think Bitcoin actually needs any shitcoin to appear in a "positive spotlight"..  Bitcoin is just fine..  Smiley

If they wanna go after Bitcoin, shitcoins won't stop them, but sure, they might slow the process.  



P.S your appeals to 'mommy' JJG to batslap someone on your behalf are a little weird, perhaps?
"Where is your mommy"?

mmh you didn't get it...?
It wasn't a call for anybody other than for you to recognize that you sound like a shitcoiner...  ..idk maybe you are one..

In that case, please accept my batslap:




Anyways, I hope you had a great 420  Smiley
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Looking at the chart it seems like we appear to be at the bottom of the recent trading range.  That gives me the feeling that we're about done dropping for now.  Could we fall further still?  Sure.  Anything is possible.  However, I'd feel OK buying here, especially as part of a dollar cost averaging plan and I think we'll soon be making another run for $30K.  Bitcoin seems to be a little spooked by the calls for a coming recession growing louder.  I don't see any specific reason why we would drop further from here though.  Just traders doing what traders do.

I am mostly interested in how much RE would drop...want another place.
In ideal case, bitcoin would be high (like a kite) and housing low (as in nobody has got any money left), but it is unlikely to happen.
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Looking at the chart it seems like we appear to be at the bottom of the recent trading range.  That gives me the feeling that we're about done dropping for now.  Could we fall further still?  Sure.  Anything is possible.  However, I'd feel OK buying here, especially as part of a dollar cost averaging plan and I think we'll soon be making another run for $30K.  Bitcoin seems to be a little spooked by the calls for a coming recession growing louder.  I don't see any specific reason why we would drop further from here though.  Just traders doing what traders do.
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Fucking high-speed Mach 1 beras out of nowhere what the fuck is going on?!





happy 420 gentlebeings!

Was the first 4/20 in ~20 years that I was completely sober.

I have no idea what the fuck is going on.

Haven't drank in almost a year. Haven't had pot in over 6 months... Jesus, life has been keeping me busy...

Not complaining.
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So we have two different opinions here ...buddy...   I hope you can live with that  


Can you live with that yourself?
Consider shitcoins a different opinion, perhaps.

Imagine a stock market with one stock-is that your "vision"?
If there is ONLY bitcoin and nothing else, the next thing is governments crushing bitcoin.
In essence, shitcoins "shitcoinery" puts bitcoin in a positive spotlight as it clearly did during FTX and Luna fiascos.

P.S your appeals to 'mommy' JJG to batslap someone on your behalf are a little weird, perhaps?
"Where is your mommy"?
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Hello guys I am new to bitcoin forum. Can I post bitcoin related posts on this board? If your answer is no. Then what can I do to get permission to post?

You don't need permission to post.  

Tell us how you got into bitcoin and tell us your bitcoin story 😉 also what is your motivation for posting here?

maybe you're straining a farmer here...

with "bitcoin related posts" he probably means twitter copies

Maybe probably yes, maybe probably no.
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Opinions are not facts

EDIT: I understand that Newbies are mostly farmers, lately. But judging every Noob as such is clearly a prejudice.
I appreciate BitcoinPsycho's helpful and encouraging reply, we'll see if this one is a serious member.
Remember, we were all newbies here before.

Yes. Have your judgement. That's fine.

But I doubt that a "normal" newb would register for 5 different bounty campaigns before even making a single post...
https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/rtr-3549760

I also appreciate BitcoinPsycho's sincere, cordial reply.  And it's all the sadder when it is in vain, wasted on just another farmer bot..
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Hello guys I am new to bitcoin forum. Can I post bitcoin related posts on this board? If your answer is no. Then what can I do to get permission to post?

You don't need permission to post.  

Tell us how you got into bitcoin and tell us your bitcoin story 😉 also what is your motivation for posting here?

maybe you're straining a farmer here...

with "bitcoin related posts" he probably means twitter copies

Maybe probably yes, maybe probably no.
Quote from: OOM
Opinions are not facts

EDIT: I understand that Newbies are mostly farmers, lately. But judging every Noob as such is clearly a prejudice.
I appreciate BitcoinPsycho's helpful and encouraging reply, we'll see if this one is a serious member.
Remember, we were all newbies here before.
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Hello guys I am new to bitcoin forum. Can I post bitcoin related posts on this board? If your answer is no. Then what can I do to get permission to post?

You don't need permission to post.  

Tell us how you got into bitcoin and tell us your bitcoin story 😉 also what is your motivation for posting here?

maybe you're straining a farmer here...

with "bitcoin related posts" he probably means twitter copies
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Been shoveling all day, pony stable groundwork.

Here's a source regarding my previous post, btw:

EU lawmakers approve world’s first comprehensive framework for crypto regulation
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happy 420 gentlebeings!

Starship launch attempt #2       t-minus 30m
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-1wcilQ58hI

I have a box of punch dark mint chocolate 225 mg of thc.

I will consider eating one small piece for 420.



Blitzed the shit is strong. Grin

 Grin eating is so much more psychedelic than smoking imo...

I fucked up big time
Lasting an eternity
Fucked up me, long time




#haiku


that's the spirit yo
I hope you had fun big time
livin' the good life


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congrats to myself
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