If bitcoins were around in the '90s...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=65&v=ZW-oUXqomT0
Topic: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion - page 21790. (Read 26608519 times)
May 06, 2015, 11:49:34 AM
May 06, 2015, 11:42:54 AM
Yup. And apples are inconsistent with oranges. Different things, like different statements are, well, different.
Neither I nor Jorge is out to mislead anyone. Just to point out the obvious flaws in some of the absurdities that pass for axioms on this thread.
Being able to make an informed decision about anything generally requires you to look at both sides. For you, there is clearly only one side, and you don't want anyone to look at it from any other angle, Hence the need to demonize, "ignore" or blacklist anyone who doesn't fully subscribe to your own narrow view of bitcoin.
As for lurkers, I was watching this thread for a long time before I started posting. In that time I could see the obvious duplicity in the postings of certain regulars, who try to paint a picture that bitcoin is on its way to being worth $32k a coin because... well just because.
As for your statement
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With regards to lurkers. Every single one of them understands this thread better than you do
Maybe they do. Dont know how you think you are qualified to say how "every single one" of them thinks, though
. And if they have seen both sides of the argument in coming to their conclusions, then that is even better.Please keep pointing out flaws, but if you want to be taken seriously I would recommend that you build your own argument rather than keep defending our resident tl,dr-troll.
May 06, 2015, 11:41:29 AM
Good morning Bitcoinland.
Still going sideways but it looks like it's coiling up for some kind of move, hopefully up.
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I'd better not mention delicious morning beverages. I don't want to dull anyone's otherwise brighter day.
Still going sideways but it looks like it's coiling up for some kind of move, hopefully up.
___
I'd better not mention delicious morning beverages. I don't want to dull anyone's otherwise brighter day.
Damn the detractors. Your morning caffeine wranglings are as much part of bitcoin lore as Chinese pumps & dumps.
May 06, 2015, 11:32:46 AM
That's a fairly obvious fishing post, although, as you say, not as colourful as before. He's expecting some well-intentioned nerd to respond, only to bombard him/her with text. And as nerds we keep entertaining him. If only they could ban him.
I think the fact that you don't find them as funny anymore may be a subliminal realization that things aren't as rosy as you had been hoping to believe. After all the good news lately, for once outnumbering the scams, there is still no improvement in bitcoin. The failure of GBTC * to take off is a further kick in the nuts.
Maybe you are realizing that if bitcoin is going to succeed, it needs to do it on its own.
Anyway, my posts are generally aimed at the lurkers, the people who come here to check out what its all about. I understand you have your view and you are not about to change it for all the logic in China.
I don't find them funny because I never did. I just needed some flow in my text.
And if you knew anything about logic you would know that logic doesn't say anything about anything. It's simply a way to analyse consistency within a text or a statement. Like this sentence:
"Maybe you are realizing that if bitcoin is going to succeed, it needs to do it on its own"
which could be seen as inconsistent with this:
"Anyway, my posts are generally aimed at the lurkers, the people who come here to check out what its all about."
Ask your buddy about it, he uses it quite consistently to mislead people.
With regards to lurkers. Every single one of them understands this thread better than you do, so you can lower your shoulders.
Yup. And apples are inconsistent with oranges. Different things, like different statements are, well, different.
Neither I nor Jorge is out to mislead anyone. Just to point out the obvious flaws in some of the absurdities that pass for axioms on this thread.
Being able to make an informed decision about anything generally requires you to look at both sides. For you, there is clearly only one side, and you don't want anyone to look at it from any other angle, Hence the need to demonize, "ignore" or blacklist anyone who doesn't fully subscribe to your own narrow view of bitcoin.
As for lurkers, I was watching this thread for a long time before I started posting. In that time I could see the obvious duplicity in the postings of certain regulars, who try to paint a picture that bitcoin is on its way to being worth $32k a coin because... well just because.
As for your statement
Quote
With regards to lurkers. Every single one of them understands this thread better than you do
Maybe they do. Dont know how you think you are qualified to say how "every single one" of them thinks, though
. And if they have seen both sides of the argument in coming to their conclusions, then that is even better.
May 06, 2015, 11:01:53 AM
Looks like we have some movement on Stamp. Market buys & market sells. I believe we're heading North... 
May 06, 2015, 10:57:56 AM
May 06, 2015, 10:57:24 AM
Good morning Bitcoinland.
Still going sideways but it looks like it's coiling up for some kind of move, hopefully up.
___
I'd better not mention delicious morning beverages. I don't want to dull anyone's otherwise brighter day.
Still going sideways but it looks like it's coiling up for some kind of move, hopefully up.
___
I'd better not mention delicious morning beverages. I don't want to dull anyone's otherwise brighter day.
May 06, 2015, 10:54:27 AM
Hello to the nice people of bitcointalk 
I have around 2500 USD ready in exchange...do you think buy now or are we going lower first?
I have around 2500 USD ready in exchange...do you think buy now or are we going lower first?
it can get very low - which doesn't mean it can go up!
May 06, 2015, 10:45:20 AM
Hello to the nice people of bitcointalk
I have around 2500 USD ready in exchange...do you think buy now or are we going lower first?
I have around 2500 USD ready in exchange...do you think buy now or are we going lower first?
Do what you feel is right. Don't rely on what people here tell you
May 06, 2015, 10:41:38 AM
Hello to the nice people of bitcointalk
I have around 2500 USD ready in exchange...do you think buy now or are we going lower first?
I have around 2500 USD ready in exchange...do you think buy now or are we going lower first?
I'd probably advise you to buy in now.
I personally don't believe we're set to go much if any lower than the current price.
Lots of positive things bubbling under the surface atm, get in now.
May 06, 2015, 10:38:37 AM
JorgeStollfi don't you want to create better looking website than your current? http://www.ic.unicamp.br/~stolfi/
I would create a nice one for you for 0.1 BTC and you can even accept BTC donations there for your work
I would create a nice one for you for 0.1 BTC and you can even accept BTC donations there for your work
May 06, 2015, 10:32:42 AM
I think anyone who thinks that "wall street' wants to buy bitcoin because Moon need to keep the above in mind. As long as there is enough volatility and volume, they will make money, much the same way as any disinterested day trader can ( and has) made money on the weekly 240 - 220 cycles we see every week.
Most of the trade volume at the big Chinese exchanges is probably robot trading. However, are the robot owners "wall street", or just individual day-traders who code their own robots? Is the liquidity there sufficient for "wall street" to be interested?
I would think that the Western exchanges like Bitstamp have so little liquidity and so much spread that not even "cottage robots" would find them worth the trouble. Is that so?
Jorge's troll posts don't make me laugh anymore
Need more BTC at cheap price I guess. Jorge you should work harder to FUD, seriously
+1
I ignored him recently too
May 06, 2015, 10:30:38 AM
Hello to the nice people of bitcointalk
I have around 2500 USD ready in exchange...do you think buy now or are we going lower first?
I have around 2500 USD ready in exchange...do you think buy now or are we going lower first?
May 06, 2015, 10:28:24 AM
That's a fairly obvious fishing post, although, as you say, not as colourful as before. He's expecting some well-intentioned nerd to respond, only to bombard him/her with text. And as nerds we keep entertaining him. If only they could ban him.
I think the fact that you don't find them as funny anymore may be a subliminal realization that things aren't as rosy as you had been hoping to believe. After all the good news lately, for once outnumbering the scams, there is still no improvement in bitcoin. The failure of GBTC * to take off is a further kick in the nuts.
Maybe you are realizing that if bitcoin is going to succeed, it needs to do it on its own.
Anyway, my posts are generally aimed at the lurkers, the people who come here to check out what its all about. I understand you have your view and you are not about to change it for all the logic in China.
I don't find them funny because I never did. I just needed some flow in my text.
And if you knew anything about logic you would know that logic doesn't say anything about anything. It's simply a way to analyse consistency within a text or a statement. Like this sentence:
"Maybe you are realizing that if bitcoin is going to succeed, it needs to do it on its own"
which could be seen as inconsistent with this:
"Anyway, my posts are generally aimed at the lurkers, the people who come here to check out what its all about."
Ask your buddy about it, he uses it quite consistently to mislead people.
With regards to lurkers. Every single one of them understands this thread better than you do, so you can lower your shoulders.
May 06, 2015, 10:23:02 AM
So, the total volume of GBTC has been 765 + 435 = 1200 shares and it looks like there might not be any trading today. That's 120 bitcoins. Since we know some of those trades were from people who had just bought and resold higher, we can conclude that there is maybe ~100 bitcoins worth of GBTC out in the wild (out of the hands of the original investors). In other words so far GBTC traders might as well be trading buttons with Bitcoin logo on them.
May 06, 2015, 10:18:00 AM
dump alert
Western exchanges don't yet look ready for the dump, only China. In a couple of hours we'll see who leads the market.
The sell on huobi was followed almost immediately by strong buys. More chinese pingpong. (fighting the urge to use the term 'wash volume'
) 
May 06, 2015, 10:14:10 AM
dump alert
Western exchanges don't yet look ready for the dump, only China. In a couple of hours we'll see who leads the market.
May 06, 2015, 10:01:28 AM
I think anyone who thinks that "wall street' wants to buy bitcoin because Moon need to keep the above in mind. As long as there is enough volatility and volume, they will make money, much the same way as any disinterested day trader can ( and has) made money on the weekly 240 - 220 cycles we see every week.
I would think that the Western exchanges like Bitstamp have so little liquidity and so much spread that not even "cottage robots" would find them worth the trouble. Is that so?
True, but on bigger swings simple 'robot' services can make money. The problem arises if they start implementing FIX services on the exchanges, as most bots rely on RESTful API's or other web services, and these are hopelessly outgunned by FIX.
If you are playing both sides of the market, speed is key.
May 06, 2015, 10:00:19 AM
GBTC follows NYSE hours to my understanding:
https://isthemarketopen.com
https://isthemarketopen.com
May 06, 2015, 09:59:14 AM
dump alert
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