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Topic: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion - page 22724. (Read 26715440 times)

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News travels fast, even on a Sunday.
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8000 coins dumped and we end up within $3 in hours... bullish.
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Is it moon time yet??   Huh

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shorts better get your fill soon
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Well, the price being 252$, it means that everybody who who owns bitcoin thinks that they are worth more than 245$; but, on the other hand, everybody in the world who has some money to spare thinks that 1 BTC is not worth 255$.


You really are not much of an economist, are you ? Cheesy How does such an oversimplifying way to look at economic choice even go together with your ability to solve abstract mathematical problems?

Okay. To name just one objection to such an incredibly naive model of the market:

Misrepresentation of your actual valuation for strategic purposes.

Similar to the misrepresentation, "tactical voting", in voting theory: sometimes it is individually rational for an actor not to cast a vote according to his sincere preference.

Are we sure that this is the real Jorge Stolfi? Maybe the real Jorge Stolfi is a reasoned and thoughtful person who knows what he's talking about. Maybe we are contributing to damaging his good name and reputation by arguing with this imposter. Brazil can't be that desperate.

I've been in contact with the actual Jorge Stolfi--he himself disavows any knowledge of the imposter here who spends his days arguing with kids about Bitcoin, and whose posts coincidentally occur near the end of "troll waves" where all the trolls and their sock puppets quote each other to reinforce a point.
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Bitcoin replaces central, not commercial, banks
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alan watts is all you need
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forget winkletwin ETF, we now have an approved bitcoin OTC tradeable fund

http://www.wsj.com/articles/bitcoin-investment-trust-gets-finras-ok-to-become-public-bitcoin-fund-1425242094

This story getting legs now
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Marketing manager - GO MP
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The Darkness is coming for Bitcoin...

oh god this coin still exist

Actually we should be posting that in your thread.


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Eadem mutata resurgo


gbianchi : interesting work. Have you tried the same analysis with total bitcoin market value (also called market cap) instead of price, i.e. would be just price times number of coins issued?
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central banking = outdated protocol


Nice to see some cerebral discourse in here. Much more interesting to read. If this is what happens on slow, steady bullish type runs...please continue the trend Bitcoin Cheesy



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10k sale volume on bitcoin during a sunday morning and the market just laughed it off?



A little.
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10k sale volume on bitcoin during a sunday morning and the market just laughed it off?

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Well, the price being 252$, it means that everybody who who owns bitcoin thinks that they are worth more than 245$; but, on the other hand, everybody in the world who has some money to spare thinks that 1 BTC is not worth 255$.


You really are not much of an economist, are you ? Cheesy How does such an oversimplifying way to look at economic choice even go together with your ability to solve abstract mathematical problems?

Okay. To name just one objection to such an incredibly naive model of the market:

Misrepresentation of your actual valuation for strategic purposes.

Similar to the misrepresentation, "tactical voting", in voting theory: sometimes it is individually rational for an actor not to cast a vote according to his sincere preference.

He is basically right this time. Since bitcoins are neither produced not destroyed (by consumption), the only basis for demand is people who think it is worth more, and the only source of supply is people who think it is worth less. Historic value could for some be of importance, but should not, again since they are not consumable there is no reference. Only expected future value should matter. Just like cold and heat, where cold is just absence of heat, and darkness and light, where darkness is just absense of light, bitcoin supply is the same as absence of demand. So in case of bitcoin (and other pure money types), there is really only one parameter: The demand.

The speculation is about projecting the demand for bitcoins in the future. Those never exposed to the idea are one source of future demand.


This not correct whatsoever, because future value is discounted by time preference.
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