OK. Enjoy your fiat. I hope you receive all that you deserve.
Did you hold through this entire yearlong+ plummet or what?
Topic: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion - page 22896. (Read 26710995 times)
February 15, 2015, 12:02:43 PM
Did you hold through this entire yearlong+ plummet or what?
February 15, 2015, 12:00:41 PM
Anyone notice the longs are increasing at a faster rate?
February 15, 2015, 11:59:37 AM
February 15, 2015, 11:59:15 AM
It bears repeating: some people are going to be so embarrassed in the future.... 
February 15, 2015, 11:57:45 AM
240 up next
February 15, 2015, 11:55:55 AM
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OK. Enjoy your fiat. I hope you receive all that you deserve.
OK. Enjoy your fiat. I hope you receive all that you deserve.
Enjoy your
February 15, 2015, 11:54:08 AM
OK. Enjoy your fiat. I hope you receive all that you deserve.
man, with fiat at least you have an opportunity to survive a system reset, after a hyperinflation and that shit...
with bitcoin reset you dont stand a chance.
February 15, 2015, 11:51:57 AM
There is nothing "insane" or "incredibly lucky" about realizing the potential of a new technology and its potential impacts on a globally corrupt and immoral financial system.
Nothing is being impacted. If anything, the very thing you're attempting to impact is in the process of assimilating your "disruptive" technology.Quote
What I'm trying to say that if someone is paying attention and putting forth the effort to educate themselves about the way the current financial system works, (newsflash, they don't teach that shit in schools) and then they learn about a new technological breakthrough that has the potential to make a substantial change that would allow everyone the freedom to bypass the leeches and parasites that prey on the productive to enrich only themselves, they should not be demonized for their initiative, rather, they should be rewarded, and deservedly so.
Do you believe in the "welfare queen" myth, too?Quote
Err, rambling, sorry.
No you're not.Quote
It's not about of "getting revenge". It is about taking responsibility, and not requiring the productive to subsidize the rest.
Oh those poor productive hard-workin rich folks who randomly dumped $500 into bitcoin so they could have extra purchasing power on hand for their next ounce of weed.Quote
Why do I feel like Hank Rearden in the courtroom right now, trying to explain things that should be obvious?
Stop reading shitty novels.OK. Enjoy your fiat. I hope you receive all that you deserve.
February 15, 2015, 11:51:49 AM
bter.com Cold Wallet looks empty, bro.
http://www.walletexplorer.com/wallet/Bter.com-cold/addresses
2 test-withdrawals of 195 BTC followed 7 minutes later by 7160 BTCs!!
2015-02-14 04:32:26 -7160.00011538 0.00028815 f5b0363f03e1ed8bb812…
2015-02-14 04:25:56 -90. 7160.00040353 f6a3cd44800621cbab9c…
2015-02-14 04:25:56 -105. 7250.00040353 4a700f46a583d5856833…
http://www.walletexplorer.com/wallet/Bter.com-cold/addresses
2 test-withdrawals of 195 BTC followed 7 minutes later by 7160 BTCs!!
2015-02-14 04:32:26 -7160.00011538 0.00028815 f5b0363f03e1ed8bb812…
2015-02-14 04:25:56 -90. 7160.00040353 f6a3cd44800621cbab9c…
2015-02-14 04:25:56 -105. 7250.00040353 4a700f46a583d5856833…
That is a bit misleading. AFAIK there was a single 7170 BTC transaction that cleaned out the cold wallet (minus the fractions of BTC). This page gives a better view:
http://www.walletexplorer.com/wallet/Bter.com-cold
Apparently the hot and cold wallets were set up so that +15 BTC were typically sent from hot to cold, and -100 BTC were sent (less frequently, of course) from cold to hot. Perhaps both were automated? Anyway, the last two -100 BTC transactions are typical, the -7170 BTC transaction is not.
The 7170 stolen BTC have been split into chunks of 1000 BTC or so. They are worth ~1.7 M USD at current prices.
never had the coins. Fractional reserve is bad apples.
From the above page, it seems that they had those BTC allright. Whether it is theft or embezzlement, who knows.
It seems that Bter was mostly into LTC and DOGE trading, and they promised to let clients withdraw those soon. Let's see.
it is out of question that they had them - what is more interesting is how many coins they issued within the bter system
I have the strong assumption that some exchanges cannot handle increasing prices, due to they fractional reserve banking.
February 15, 2015, 11:50:57 AM
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"When money ceases to be the tool by which men deal with one another, then men become the tools of men."
"When money ceases to be the tool by which men deal with one another, then men become the tools of men."
Your waifu can't write for sour apples.
February 15, 2015, 11:47:43 AM
^Say it with anything you want, just don't try for the moral high ground, money changer.
Fuck the moral high ground, let's fight it out in the trenches.
Money changers exist to allow people to exchange good money for bad, (And vice-versa, as needs require)
"When money ceases to be the tool by which men deal with one another, then men become the tools of men."
February 15, 2015, 11:44:39 AM
February 15, 2015, 11:40:14 AM
bter.com Cold Wallet looks empty, bro.
http://www.walletexplorer.com/wallet/Bter.com-cold/addresses
2 test-withdrawals of 195 BTC followed 7 minutes later by 7160 BTCs!!
2015-02-14 04:32:26 -7160.00011538 0.00028815 f5b0363f03e1ed8bb812…
2015-02-14 04:25:56 -90. 7160.00040353 f6a3cd44800621cbab9c…
2015-02-14 04:25:56 -105. 7250.00040353 4a700f46a583d5856833…
http://www.walletexplorer.com/wallet/Bter.com-cold/addresses
2 test-withdrawals of 195 BTC followed 7 minutes later by 7160 BTCs!!
2015-02-14 04:32:26 -7160.00011538 0.00028815 f5b0363f03e1ed8bb812…
2015-02-14 04:25:56 -90. 7160.00040353 f6a3cd44800621cbab9c…
2015-02-14 04:25:56 -105. 7250.00040353 4a700f46a583d5856833…
That is a bit misleading. AFAIK there was a single 7170 BTC transaction that cleaned out the cold wallet (minus the fractions of BTC). This page gives a better view:
http://www.walletexplorer.com/wallet/Bter.com-cold
Apparently the hot and cold wallets were set up so that +15 BTC were typically sent from hot to cold, and -100 BTC were sent (less frequently, of course) from cold to hot. Perhaps both were automated? Anyway, the last two -100 BTC transactions are typical, the -7170 BTC transaction is not.
The 7170 stolen BTC have been split into chunks of 1000 BTC or so. They are worth ~1.7 M USD at current prices.
never had the coins. Fractional reserve is bad apples.
From the above page, it seems that they had those BTC allright. Whether it is theft or embezzlement, who knows.
It seems that Bter was mostly into LTC and DOGE trading, and they promised to let clients withdraw those soon. Let's see.
February 15, 2015, 11:39:38 AM
does bitcoin follow us?
http://bit.ly/1AEQ9Dm
http://bit.ly/1AEQ9Dm
February 15, 2015, 11:36:13 AM
There is nothing "insane" or "incredibly lucky" about realizing the potential of a new technology and its potential impacts on a globally corrupt and immoral financial system.
Nothing is being impacted. If anything, the very thing you're attempting to impact is in the process of assimilating your "disruptive" technology.Quote
What I'm trying to say that if someone is paying attention and putting forth the effort to educate themselves about the way the current financial system works, (newsflash, they don't teach that shit in schools) and then they learn about a new technological breakthrough that has the potential to make a substantial change that would allow everyone the freedom to bypass the leeches and parasites that prey on the productive to enrich only themselves, they should not be demonized for their initiative, rather, they should be rewarded, and deservedly so.
Do you believe in the "welfare queen" myth, too?Quote
Err, rambling, sorry.
No you're not.Quote
It's not about of "getting revenge". It is about taking responsibility, and not requiring the productive to subsidize the rest.
Oh those poor productive hard-workin rich folks who randomly dumped $500 into bitcoin so they could have extra purchasing power on hand for their next ounce of weed.Quote
Why do I feel like Hank Rearden in the courtroom right now, trying to explain things that should be obvious?
Stop reading shitty novels. February 15, 2015, 11:35:46 AM
^Not even Ron Paul 
February 15, 2015, 11:31:53 AM
.@Wekkel: Everyone content to fart through silk while others starve is meh at best.
If thou wilt be perfect, go and sell that thou hast, and give to the poor...
... Verily I say unto you,
That a rich man shall hardly enter into the kingdom of heaven.
And again I say unto you, It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle,
than for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of God.
If thou wilt be perfect, go and sell that thou hast, and give to the poor...
... Verily I say unto you,
That a rich man shall hardly enter into the kingdom of heaven.
And again I say unto you, It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle,
than for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of God.
Jesus can't even save us now ... but i like the quote ...
February 15, 2015, 11:28:52 AM
^Say it with anything you want, just don't try for the moral high ground, money changer.
February 15, 2015, 11:27:32 AM
This sums up rather nicely the reason why I often post the phrase "as low as possible for as long as possible"
I wish that life were fair. I wish that everyone could be rich. I would like the price to go back to 2 dollars or 2 cents so that everyone could get their "fair share".
Unfortunately, life doesn't work that way. We are all responsible for our own decisions. (And, apparently, the decisions of the politicians we elect)
Life ain't fair. If you don't like it, tough shit.
I wish that life were fair. I wish that everyone could be rich. I would like the price to go back to 2 dollars or 2 cents so that everyone could get their "fair share".
Unfortunately, life doesn't work that way. We are all responsible for our own decisions. (And, apparently, the decisions of the politicians we elect)
Life ain't fair. If you don't like it, tough shit.
Are you really trying to say that buying at <$2 -- and getting insanely, incredibly lucky to make a fortune off this massive bubble -- makes anybody a financial genius? It turned out to be a good decision, but best believe it was mostly lucky.
I'd say the biggest geniuses were the whales who made the "decision" to get the fuck out at the top while the suckers were still willing to buy.
No.
There is nothing "insane" or "incredibly lucky" about realizing the potential of a new technology and its potential impacts on a globally corrupt and immoral financial system.
What I'm trying to say that if someone is paying attention and putting forth the effort to educate themselves about the way the current financial system works, (newsflash, they don't teach that shit in schools) and then they learn about a new technological breakthrough that has the potential to make a substantial change that would allow everyone the freedom to bypass the leeches and parasites that prey on the productive to enrich only themselves, they should not be demonized for their initiative, rather, they should be rewarded, and deservedly so.
Err, rambling, sorry.
It's not about of "getting revenge". It is about taking responsibility, and not requiring the productive to subsidize the rest.
Why do I feel like Hank Rearden in the courtroom right now, trying to explain things that should be obvious?
Say it with a poster:
Sorry octaft
February 15, 2015, 11:26:12 AM
.@Wekkel: Everyone content to fart through silk while others starve is meh at best.
If thou wilt be perfect, go and sell that thou hast, and give to the poor...
... Verily I say unto you,
That a rich man shall hardly enter into the kingdom of heaven.
And again I say unto you, It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle,
than for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of God.
If thou wilt be perfect, go and sell that thou hast, and give to the poor...
... Verily I say unto you,
That a rich man shall hardly enter into the kingdom of heaven.
And again I say unto you, It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle,
than for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of God.
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