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Topic: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion - page 25604. (Read 26609691 times)

legendary
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Genuinely LOLing at people suddenly promoting windows.

I mean LOLING.

ok.

So you're saying windows updates faster than free software, therefore is more secure.

lol I can't even

Can someone else deal with this?

edit: by the way I'm not advocating OSX in ANY WAY.
sr. member
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He was the earliest adopter and probably had 500,000 coins.

Where did you get the figure from?

just a guess.

I read somewhere that he mined the first few blocks. Back then there were 50 BTC in 1 block. I did a rough calculation and concluded he had less than 4000 BTC.
legendary
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legendary
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he who has the gold makes the rules
He was the earliest adopter and probably had 500,000 coins.

Where did you get the figure from?

he pulled it out of his ass...

Hal refers to mining block 70 something, and finding several blocks.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/bitcoin-and-me-hal-finney-155054

However only 1 block in the 70s has ever moved and into a wallet that had an aggragate of 40 block rewards.

edit* https://blockchain.info/address/14yF89mjn831zpbrX7TW2HExLGuqXaK3hc

made up of 40 50 BTC blocks.

those 2000 coins started to move again last year.
sr. member
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Guys, why even bother keeping up with the minute to minute.

Here's a summary:

1.  Whale pumps bitcoin on PayPal news, hoping to spark a mini-rally
2.  Mini rally fails
3.  Whale slowly sells off coins
4.  Price grinds back down to where it was before rally

Gee, whouda thunk it huh?   Roll Eyes

Occam's Razor at its finest   Wink

I think Occam's Razor applies to my theory of the price action since June 1st,
Ok, let me play devil's advocate to some of your possible arguments:

Hal Finney's coins are being sold.
Possibly

He was the earliest adopter and probably had 500,000 coins.

In June, he started selling because he needed the money for medical bills and the cryo project.
So you know for a fact that he didn't have health insurance to cover the majority of his medical bills?  Very unlikely.

His family is still selling. Soon they will be done selling and up we will go.
Possibly, but health insurance should cover the bulk of his base medical bills.  But probably not the cryo stuff.  Then again, he would have to pre-pay for most of cryo setup, not after.

Also, his wife would be an absolute FOOL to sell all of their btc!!  She could live off of that slowly for the rest of her life, and still end up a gazillionaire at the end of it.

BTW the days destroyed won't show it because he moved his coins around a lot.
Hmmm... maybe



Occam's razor != wildly guessing

Hal stated he did not have a very large stash (I believe it was a few k coins) He did mine in the early days but stopped. (At least that's what I recall from an interview I once read)
There was some analysis on the blockchain showing very very early coins being sold around the peak of the last bubble and it is believed that those were some of his
legendary
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U.S. citizens (and residents?)


Yup. Basically anyone who is supposed to be filing taxes in the US I believe, including many people who aren't aware of it. FBAR is particularly nasty. Though enforcement appears to be almost nonexistent. Penalties appear to be aimed at Donald Trump's level over sums that would buy a low-end used car.
legendary
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Guys, why even bother keeping up with the minute to minute.

Here's a summary:

1.  Whale pumps bitcoin on PayPal news, hoping to spark a mini-rally
2.  Mini rally fails
3.  Whale slowly sells off coins
4.  Price grinds back down to where it was before rally

Gee, whouda thunk it huh?   Roll Eyes

Occam's Razor at its finest   Wink

I think Occam's Razor applies to my theory of the price action since June 1st,
Ok, let me play devil's advocate to some of your possible arguments:

Hal Finney's coins are being sold.
Possibly

He was the earliest adopter and probably had 500,000 coins.

In June, he started selling because he needed the money for medical bills and the cryo project.
So you know for a fact that he didn't have health insurance to cover the majority of his medical bills?  Very unlikely.

His family is still selling. Soon they will be done selling and up we will go.
Possibly, but health insurance should cover the bulk of his base medical bills.  But probably not the cryo stuff.  Then again, he would have to pre-pay for most of cryo setup, not after.

Also, his wife would be an absolute FOOL to sell all of their btc!!  She could live off of that slowly for the rest of her life, and still end up a gazillionaire at the end of it.

BTW the days destroyed won't show it because he moved his coins around a lot.
Hmmm... maybe.  But his wife would likely have a hard time keeping track of all those wallets. Don't assume that she was tech literate. He most likely consolidated the majority of btc for her to deal with.

sr. member
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Decentralize All The Things!
gnu bash vulnerability fear mongering going on /r/bitcoin, be safe do your research.

This is why you keep you wallet on a window system


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I know this is supposed to be funny, but try to take a look at how long time it takes MS to close their holes compared to the open source world, now thats a real joke.
sr. member
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Decentralize All The Things!
Just to point out, if you generate your private key on a computer that is connected to the internet, the NSA and a probably a bunch of other people know your private key.

Windows not affected.

No need either, the NSA already have all the holes they could wish for.
legendary
Activity: 2576
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1RichyTrEwPYjZSeAYxeiFBNnKC9UjC5k
gnu bash vulnerability fear mongering going on /r/bitcoin, be safe do your research.

This is why you keep you wallet on a window system


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sr. member
Activity: 434
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Just to point out, if you generate your private key on a computer that is connected to the internet, the NSA and a probably a bunch of other people know your private key.

Windows not affected.
full member
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Market Integration Platform
Ok well done traders and dumpers. Quite the achievement. Pretty much the biggest news we could hope for, Paypal accepting Bitcoin, and you managed to kill the last bit of confidence buyers had and we're back where we were before. But hey, you got your 200 bucks profit right! Edit: actually funny enough most of you most likely ended up losing money because that is simply what the majority of traders do.
Really, well played. I couldn't make this shit up because nobody would believe me that people are this stupid.

Dude, relax. Bitcoin moving from the unpatient to the patient is... actually good news. Smiley
sr. member
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He was the earliest adopter and probably had 500,000 coins.

Where did you get the figure from?

just a guess.
legendary
Activity: 1666
Merit: 1010
he who has the gold makes the rules

oh noez!

(anyone with a mac that has their coins on a hot wallet was likely to have had them stolen before this was discovered)

and now that likelihood increases even more...
sr. member
Activity: 322
Merit: 250
Decentralize All The Things!
Just to point out, if you generate your private key on a computer that is connected to the internet, the NSA and a probably a bunch of other people know your private key.

One doesn't do that. Period.
sr. member
Activity: 434
Merit: 250
He was the earliest adopter and probably had 500,000 coins.

Where did you get the figure from?
legendary
Activity: 1652
Merit: 1029
Just to point out, if you generate your private key on a computer that is connected to the internet, the NSA and a probably a bunch of other people know your private key.
legendary
Activity: 1652
Merit: 1029

oh noez!

(anyone with a mac that has their coins on a hot wallet was likely to have had them stolen before this was discovered)
legendary
Activity: 1666
Merit: 1010
he who has the gold makes the rules
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