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legendary
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But prices are too high right now, if we can get back to the $300s at least, all my friends at school who said "bitcoin is too expensive" will think about buying again.
Right now we're still sticking around $580 because of all the holders who refuse to accept a loss, but there's not much buying pressure to support it. It's simply unsustainable, imho.

Then your friends at school are complete idiots, because they can buy any amount of bitcoin they can afford.  They can buy $580, $58, $5.80, hell they can buy $0.58 or $0.001 cents worth.  It's all the same, it's all bitcoin.  Owning "whole coins" is illusory, it doesn't exist, it doesn't even matter.  Even the idea of a single "bitcoin" is simply a meaningless abstraction.

A bitcoin is simply an abstract unit of measure, with relative value that changes over time. Like the ounce is in the gold and silver world.  No one goes around saying "Hey, I own X number WHOLE ounces of gold!!"  No, they say "I own $6000 worth of gold."

I think they realize that, but they told me it's not fair that earlier investors could by hundreds of bitcoins for pennies on the dollar and they need to pay $580 to buy just one. So for that reason, they're going to wait until prices come back down again. And then my math teacher said that bitcoin in a ponzi scheme, and that "true value" is only $10 per coin, because he read about it on the Internet. That's just how people think, I guess.

And that's why he's teaching high school math instead of putting his skills to use in industry.
legendary
Activity: 3780
Merit: 5429

But prices are too high right now, if we can get back to the $300s at least, all my friends at school who said "bitcoin is too expensive" will think about buying again.
Right now we're still sticking around $580 because of all the holders who refuse to accept a loss, but there's not much buying pressure to support it. It's simply unsustainable, imho.

Then your friends at school are complete idiots, because they can buy any amount of bitcoin they can afford.  They can buy $580, $58, $5.80, hell they can buy $0.58 or $0.001 cents worth.  It's all the same, it's all bitcoin.  Owning "whole coins" is illusory, it doesn't exist, it doesn't even matter.  Even the idea of a single "bitcoin" is simply a meaningless abstraction.

A bitcoin is simply an abstract unit of measure, with relative value that changes over time. Like the ounce is in the gold and silver world.  No one goes around saying "Hey, I own X number WHOLE ounces of gold!!"  No, they say "I own $6000 worth of gold."

I think they realize that, but they told me it's not fair that earlier investors could by hundreds of bitcoins for pennies on the dollar and they need to pay $580 to buy just one. So for that reason, they're going to wait until prices come back down again. And then my math teacher said that bitcoin in a ponzi scheme, and that "true value" is only $10 per coin, because he read about it on the Internet. That's just how people think, I guess.

Yes, but then idiots will never learn.  I would have loved to have bought Apple when it was @ $20/share, or even $4/share, but those times are long gone.  But it doesn't make Apple a bad investment today.  Should I say it's not fair that those (smart) people bought Apple at $4/share back then?

It's the smart people, the people in the know, that know that bitcoin is only going to get bigger.  Much bigger.  When bitcoin hits $10K/btc, please remind your idiot friends and your teacher that if they had bought $300 worth of bitcoin at today's price of $580/btc, they would then have $5100 from their investment.
legendary
Activity: 1078
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is crypto done?   Huh

yeah it is over man... finito,done, dusted, fubar,beaten,broken,conquered,cooked,dashed,dead,defeated,destroyed,done in,doomed,dying,eighty-sixed, exhausted, finished,foiled,had it,kaput,lost,packed-up,ruined,shot,sunk,through,undone,vanquished,washed- up,wrecked,bankrupt,beaten,beggared,broke,broken, defeated, derelict,destitute,finished,impoverished,n the gutter,in the poorhouse,in the red,insolvent,on the skids,out of funds ,outcast,stricken,ruined, get out now man..

oh errr sorry I meant

NO.
    
sr. member
Activity: 350
Merit: 253
is crypto done?   Huh

No, my friend. We're just having a back to school sale right now Smiley
sr. member
Activity: 350
Merit: 253

But prices are too high right now, if we can get back to the $300s at least, all my friends at school who said "bitcoin is too expensive" will think about buying again.
Right now we're still sticking around $580 because of all the holders who refuse to accept a loss, but there's not much buying pressure to support it. It's simply unsustainable, imho.

Then your friends at school are complete idiots, because they can buy any amount of bitcoin they can afford.  They can buy $580, $58, $5.80, hell they can buy $0.58 or $0.001 cents worth.  It's all the same, it's all bitcoin.  Owning "whole coins" is illusory, it doesn't exist, it doesn't even matter.  Even the idea of a single "bitcoin" is simply a meaningless abstraction.

A bitcoin is simply an abstract unit of measure, with relative value that changes over time. Like the ounce is in the gold and silver world.  No one goes around saying "Hey, I own X number WHOLE ounces of gold!!"  No, they say "I own $6000 worth of gold."

I think they realize that, but they told me it's not fair that earlier investors could by hundreds of bitcoins for pennies on the dollar and they need to pay $580 to buy just one. So for that reason, they're going to wait until prices come back down again. And then my math teacher said that bitcoin in a ponzi scheme, and that "true value" is only $10 per coin, because he read about it on the Internet. That's just how people think, I guess.
legendary
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is crypto done?   Huh
legendary
Activity: 1260
Merit: 1008
Just don't bring out the Wat lady....whatever you do.

Wow! It is my first time seeing Legendary status. How to get it?
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.8289534

I knew that as soon as I had become a "Hero member" something else would have become more cool Smiley
full member
Activity: 160
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Feels like a bear trap. I'm still in fiat though. I need more convincing.
legendary
Activity: 1260
Merit: 1008
I'm thinking about selling some Bitcoin, and trying to resist.

I'm not happy about Newegg accepting BTC. Too tempting.

http://secure.newegg.com/WishList/PublicWishDetail.aspx?WishListNumber=24976852

wow this is a beast :-)
legendary
Activity: 896
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Theres the asks. Down it is.
legendary
Activity: 3780
Merit: 5429
Bring on the multi-year bear market. Let the true bit-leavers accumulate all the coins from the weak hands!

No thanks.

And please quit with the weak hands myth.

I don't get it. Last winter there were tons of people on here saying that if prices fell to $100 or $200 or whatever they would take loans out on their home equity, cash out their 401k, etc, to buy as many as possible. Don't we still want this?

Of course NOT... why would we want BTC prices to be suppressed to such a low level.. that is ridiculous to even suggest it.. b/c such a low price would demonstrate an extreme low confidence in BTC value... and as we know, we got into the mid-$300s for a a day or so, earlier this year.. for our post ATH low... and absent some extreme news, it seems fairly unlikely that BTC prices are going to see the $400s again...  

But prices are too high right now, if we can get back to the $300s at least, all my friends at school who said "bitcoin is too expensive" will think about buying again.
Right now we're still sticking around $580 because of all the holders who refuse to accept a loss, but there's not much buying pressure to support it. It's simply unsustainable, imho.

Then your friends at school are complete idiots, because they can buy any amount of bitcoin they can afford.  They can buy $580, $58, $5.80, hell they can buy $0.58 or $0.001 cents worth.  It's all the same, it's all bitcoin.  Owning "whole coins" is illusory, it doesn't exist, it doesn't even matter.  Even the idea of a single "bitcoin" is simply a meaningless abstraction.

A bitcoin is simply an abstract unit of measure, with relative value that changes over time. Like the ounce is in the gold and silver world.  No one goes around saying "Hey, I own X number WHOLE ounces of gold!!"  No, they say "I own $6000 worth of gold."
sr. member
Activity: 350
Merit: 253
Bring on the multi-year bear market. Let the true bit-leavers accumulate all the coins from the weak hands!

No thanks.

And please quit with the weak hands myth.

I don't get it. Last winter there were tons of people on here saying that if prices fell to $100 or $200 or whatever they would take loans out on their home equity, cash out their 401k, etc, to buy as many as possible. Don't we still want this?

Of course NOT... why would we want BTC prices to be suppressed to such a low level.. that is ridiculous to even suggest it.. b/c such a low price would demonstrate an extreme low confidence in BTC value... and as we know, we got into the mid-$300s for a a day or so, earlier this year.. for our post ATH low... and absent some extreme news, it seems fairly unlikely that BTC prices are going to see the $400s again...

But prices are too high right now, if we can get back to the $300s at least, all my friends at school who said "bitcoin is too expensive" will think about buying again. Right now we're still sticking around $580 because of all the holders who refuse to accept a loss, but there's not much buying pressure to support it. It's simply unsustainable, imho.
legendary
Activity: 3948
Merit: 11416
Self-Custody is a right. Say no to"Non-custodial"
Bring on the multi-year bear market. Let the true bit-leavers accumulate all the coins from the weak hands!

No thanks.

And please quit with the weak hands myth.

I don't get it. Last winter there were tons of people on here saying that if prices fell to $100 or $200 or whatever they would take loans out on their home equity, cash out their 401k, etc, to buy as many as possible. Don't we still want this?

Of course NOT... why would we want BTC prices to be suppressed to such a low level.. that is ridiculous to even suggest it.. b/c such a low price would demonstrate an extreme low confidence in BTC value... and as we know, we got into the mid-$300s for a a day or so, earlier this year.. for our post ATH low... and absent some extreme news, it seems fairly unlikely that BTC prices are going to see the $400s again...
legendary
Activity: 1078
Merit: 1441
ZOMG Bitcoin fell $10!  What happened, did China ban Bitcoin!?  Shocked

Lol, do you think when China will ban Bitcoin, and price will just move down to 10 points.
Then you are on wrong place, just stop trading bitoin or soon you will lose so much.
I was just joking around  Cheesy

Then it was very bad joke, you need to improve your humour part.

I quite liked it.... it is about time China banned Bitcoin AGAIN.. I mean we have not had a ban in the past few weeks..must be due one by now surely?  Cheesy Cheesy  or should that be BUY NOW surely. Cheesy Cheesy
legendary
Activity: 3948
Merit: 11416
Self-Custody is a right. Say no to"Non-custodial"
to be honest , I am not sure what to think, the price still doesn't seem right to me and the trend is just broken, I haven't been confused like this in a long time, I remember about this time a year ago I went all in and I can still remember the confidence I had about my decision... I just don't know why I don't have that anymore !!!

You are describing yourself as NOT having the confidence b/c you are trying to frame some credible story in order to downwardly manipulate the price... but instead you are pathetic....

There are just as many (and more) reasons to be optimistic about BTC this year as compared with last year.. so stop being so selectively blind by your own book and by your having had put a large sum of your BTC into LTC... sorry about your losses, but what a stupid gamble.

In other words, you probably have good reason to be confused... b/c you seem to be a dumb ass.  Embarrassed   Cry
legendary
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ZOMG Bitcoin fell $10!  What happened, did China ban Bitcoin!?  Shocked

Lol, do you think when China will ban Bitcoin, and price will just move down to 10 points.
Then you are on wrong place, just stop trading bitoin or soon you will lose so much.
I was just joking around  Cheesy

Then it was very bad joke, you need to improve your humour part.

P.S. I did not smiled on your joke.
legendary
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legendary
Activity: 3948
Merit: 11416
Self-Custody is a right. Say no to"Non-custodial"
Price tanking hard again, what's up here? Any news triggering that sell-off or is it just another random dump or some miners that can't hold up their selling any longer? Not an especially beautiful sight Sad

I thought we already established that miners do NOT dump on the market.. these miners generally sell off market.. the dumpers on the exchanges are generally the manipulators.. or attempted downward price manipulators...
legendary
Activity: 3948
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Self-Custody is a right. Say no to"Non-custodial"
I actually hope that we stay flat like this for several more years, because each week my dad gives me $10 allowance and I like to put half of that toward bitcoin. In 4 more years, I can have 2 full bitcoin!

Hmm, that's a great model, isn't it? One can aford losing all, and can be always in a position buying when price falls.

I failed to adapt that model. Pathetically, I bot too heavy  during the peak. My remaining capital does not compensate if market falls further.

What shall I do? I've got to hodl, and buy regularly to lower my average, with my affordable allowance. Any one give me some suggestions?



Another troll like post... but i will entertain it...

Yes, a rookie mistake to buy too much when the prices is high and to blow all your wadd in exuberance... yet with bitcoin, you will get your money back, sooner or later, as long as you do NOT attempt to trade... b/c you likely do not know what the fuck you are doing.. like most traders.. and attempt to continue to buy in ... in order to keep bringing down your average buy in price.... in the end (maybe a day or maybe 2 years) the odds are pretty great that BTC prices are going to go to a new ATH.. and then you can either cash out b/c you do NOT know what you are doing.. or just cash out some or just continue to stay in BTC... probably it is good for you to come to your own judgements about this and to continue to monitor the extent to which you want to get out or to redistribute your total investment portfolio
sr. member
Activity: 952
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ZOMG Bitcoin fell $10!  What happened, did China ban Bitcoin!?  Shocked

Lol, do you think when China will ban Bitcoin, and price will just move down to 10 points.
Then you are on wrong place, just stop trading bitoin or soon you will lose so much.
I was just joking around  Cheesy
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