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legendary
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What if BTC stabilises here?

I'm just getting the feeling recently that all the Bull/Bear nonsense is based on the belief that BTC is a speculative instrument (or still in the speculative phase) and that may not be true.

Take Dell for instance and personalise it for understanding. Michael Dell is already rich beyond the dreams of Croesus - he's not taking BTC because he needs the money/fiat/crypto and he doesn't need to hodl to achieve some future dream of luxury.  It's an optional transactional medium for him to continue to accrue wealth - that is all.

As it gets easier to obtain, and easier to disburse the price is going to settle down as a matter of course. BTC has already become a global currency (it happened while we were not sleeping) and after all the excitement about China - and then then the come-down - we're all still holding coin with the most amazing utility.

That's what Big Trade is buying into - the utility, not the speculative opportunity, so I'm not expecting another "launch".  I'll be very surprised if we see $1000 again - there's no good reason for it at the transactional level.



There is NOT a large enough market cap to achieve multi-million dollar (or even billion dollar) transactions without causing some volatility; accordingly, the market cap has to increase in order to make bitcoin practical for these purposes.  Accordingly, since bitcoins have a limited supply and a limited production rate, the ONLY way to accomplish sufficient meaningful market cap is for BTC prices to go up (probably at least 100 times today's current prices). 

In Sum, it is inevitable that BTC prices will go up, if it is going to serve large and/or institutional financial uses.
Consider the lost/forgotten/lost private keys coins also!
legendary
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Totally random.... but John Kerry has the face of a horse.



Is that bullish or bearish?  Grin
legendary
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Self-Custody is a right. Say no to"Non-custodial"
What if BTC stabilises here?

I'm just getting the feeling recently that all the Bull/Bear nonsense is based on the belief that BTC is a speculative instrument (or still in the speculative phase) and that may not be true.

Take Dell for instance and personalise it for understanding. Michael Dell is already rich beyond the dreams of Croesus - he's not taking BTC because he needs the money/fiat/crypto and he doesn't need to hodl to achieve some future dream of luxury.  It's an optional transactional medium for him to continue to accrue wealth - that is all.

As it gets easier to obtain, and easier to disburse the price is going to settle down as a matter of course. BTC has already become a global currency (it happened while we were not sleeping) and after all the excitement about China - and then then the come-down - we're all still holding coin with the most amazing utility.

That's what Big Trade is buying into - the utility, not the speculative opportunity, so I'm not expecting another "launch".  I'll be very surprised if we see $1000 again - there's no good reason for it at the transactional level.



There is NOT a large enough market cap to achieve multi-million dollar (or even billion dollar) transactions without causing some volatility; accordingly, the market cap has to increase in order to make bitcoin practical for these purposes.  Accordingly, since bitcoins have a limited supply and a limited production rate, the ONLY way to accomplish sufficient meaningful market cap is for BTC prices to go up (probably at least 100 times today's current prices). 

In Sum, it is inevitable that BTC prices will go up, if it is going to serve large and/or institutional financial uses.
hero member
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The way around bots is to use limit orders to buy and sell.  If that option is available.
legendary
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Self-Custody is a right. Say no to"Non-custodial"

Looks good, price is staying on 600-630 going up and down every day, u can almost know when exactly will go down and then big wall up. I guess perfect scenario for day traders .


As soon as you believe that you have the bots figured out, they mix it up... so trading will likely be a losing proposition for more than 90% of humans.
legendary
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legendary
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PAY ATTENTION !

Because Christine "Lagggard" and her magic 7's  pg 7717   Shocked Shocked Shocked Shocked Shocked Shocked    Grin Cheesy Cheesy

(Adds 777 to the list)
sr. member
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FURring bitcoin up since 1762
What's going on? I'm afraid what'll happen the coming week. It's Sunday, so do you think we might see another Sunday night rise/pump or are we in for a Monday-Monday-Manic-Crash? Where are our long-term support lines we're supposed to bounce of now?
Personally I think we are in for an interesting week - mid term decision time is nearly upon us...

Yeah, I don't know if I should be excited or frightened. But when things got tough in this recovery phase, everything actually went pretty well! But I can't say I'm not afraid... It's nerve-wrecking! Cheesy

If we get to 750 and there is some serious volume then I will be all eyes and ears

If we go to 435 I will also be all eyes and ears.

At this stage I am hiding behind the sofa- I almost cannot watch...
 

Ha, I know that feeling! It's practically the same with me! So scary! I really don't want to see the 500s again, but am quite prepared that we might dip in them once again. Maybe as some kind of launch-signal for the next bubble-buildup. But I'm not especially pessimistic either, we've seen the rapid growths in May out-of-the-blue rises in the last weeks, as well. The general majority just needs to forget about the bubble, so it can actually happen!
legendary
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What's going on? I'm afraid what'll happen the coming week. It's Sunday, so do you think we might see another Sunday night rise/pump or are we in for a Monday-Monday-Manic-Crash? Where are our long-term support lines we're supposed to bounce of now?
Personally I think we are in for an interesting week - mid term decision time is nearly upon us...

Yeah, I don't know if I should be excited or frightened. But when things got tough in this recovery phase, everything actually went pretty well! But I can't say I'm not afraid... It's nerve-wrecking! Cheesy

If we get to 750 and there is some serious volume then I will be all eyes and ears

If we go to 435 I will also be all eyes and ears.

At this stage I am hiding behind the sofa- I almost cannot watch... or I am asleep- not sure which.
  
Edit - Eitherway I am all eyes this week, and if we still get nothing but sideways this week (god help me) then I am still going to be behind the sofa for the few weeks after that too... if we have not done anything between now and say Aug 8th- then I really will be really quite shocked
sr. member
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FURring bitcoin up since 1762
What's going on? I'm afraid what'll happen the coming week. It's Sunday, so do you think we might see another Sunday night rise/pump or are we in for a Monday-Monday-Manic-Crash? Where are our long-term support lines we're supposed to bounce of now?
Personally I think we are in for an interesting week - mid term decision time is nearly upon us...

Yeah, I don't know if I should be excited or frightened. But when things got tough in this recovery phase, everything actually went pretty well! But I can't say I'm not afraid... It's nerve-wrecking! Cheesy
legendary
Activity: 1078
Merit: 1441
What's going on? I'm afraid what'll happen the coming week. It's Sunday, so do you think we might see another Sunday night rise/pump or are we in for a Monday-Monday-Manic-Crash? Where are our long-term support lines we're supposed to bounce of now?


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Personally I think we are in for an interesting week - mid term decision time is nearly upon us...

I will be looking thursday/friday, although who knows what will happen Monday...

This sideways has got to be up sooooooooon


sr. member
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FURring bitcoin up since 1762
What's going on? I'm afraid what'll happen the coming week. It's Sunday, so do you think we might see another Sunday night rise/pump or are we in for a Monday-Monday-Manic-Crash? Where are our long-term support lines we're supposed to bounce of now?
legendary
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legendary
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Cost / Value analysis says we should be trading our bitcoins for at least 1500$. cheap coins everywhere!

I here the $1000 parties 1BTC tickets are selling in the low $600 at the moment (no need to buy a ticket just a Bitcoin)

And for those who don't believe me there are going to be hordes of people complaining that the party tickets only deliver $1000 in value but cost $2000 in actual outlay  Cheesy
sr. member
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cavirtex has always been a low-pass filtered version of the bigger markets (bitstamp/gox, etc...)

we clearly broke the big downtrend a while ago but if you take a moving-average price line of a few days, cavirtex is at the top of the smoothed descending triangle...

fun stuff ahead.


Really interesting graph.  I think both bulls and bears can see these trends playing out.

And regarding the regulations: yes far from ideal but right now we need clarification that Bitcoin is legal to continue with the adoption process.  Laws can be changed down the line when large businesses accepting Bitcoin publicly criticize the regulations, rather than Bitcoiners.
legendary
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Want privacy? Use Monero!
a dumptard and his coins will soon be parted.

Singalong:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qkuu0Lwb5EM
Who let the dumptard out?

Who let the dumptard out (woof, woof, woof, woof) x4
When the party was nice, the exchange rate was jumpin' (Hey, Yippie, Yi, Yo)
And everybody havin' a ball (Hah, ho, Yippie Yi Yo)
I tell the fellas "Choo Choo Motherf*cker'" (Yippie Yi Yo)
And the dumptards report to the call
The exchange rate went down

Who let the dumptard out (woof, woof, woof, woof) x4
I see the train coming, don't want to miss it
I really need to buy now
Pull my sell wall, put my bid wall
Praying that the dumptard doesn't return.

I'm gonna tell myself "hey man, no get angry (Hey, Yippie, Yi, Yo)
at all the duptards getting profits" (Yippie, Yi, Yo)
They tell me "Hey Man, It's part of the Party!" (Yippie Yi, Yo)
You catch a buy in front and a sell in behind (Yippie, Yi, Yo)
I hear a trader shout out

Who let the dumptard out (woof, woof, woof, woof) x4
A dumptard is nuttin' if he don't do a trade. All dumptards do some trades, all dumptards do it (x2)

Who let the dumptard out (woof, woof, woof, woof) x4
I see the train coming, don't want to miss it
I really need to buy now
Pull my sell wall, put my bid wall
Praying that the dumptard doesn't return.

Wait for all the buys, the party is on
I gotta set my targets I got my mind on
Do you see the sells comin' on the book
I'm buying it all and tearing all the walls down!

Me I never do shorts
And I can't see it coming, I just HODL
I'm figurin' that's why they call me a bull
'Cause I'm a man with a plan
When they see me they doooooo (howl)

Who let the dumptard out (woof, woof, woof, woof) x4

legendary
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I think we have entered the sweet spot...the damped oscillator has pretty much come to rest - finally...and now we are seeing low volume and much lower volatility - and I expect it to continue for the next bend the river. My bollinger bands are closing down, and that is good. Now we can actually begin building a base for the next major move. Could be a week, or a couple of months as in past years. I really don't know what that will look like this time, but I'm guessing it is going to be fun... Cool

I love fun, also society today is built on the backs of many giants, we've moved through the ages with a dominant theme taking power from it's predecessor going from tribalism to emperors, to merchants to financiers, to titans of industry, and finally overlords of agriculture, now we move to globalization (not one governed by one sided laws impoverishing the poor) each theme throughout history has been unstoppable as it primarily servers the previous.

Bitcoin adoption is going those industry's too picking up a skeletal support structure, I too have no idea but it's fun for those who take the time to learn.
legendary
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@theshmadz


This is glorious.

Can it be done with the green numbers in the background? And make the little numbers all bitcoin symbol?
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cavirtex has always been a low-pass filtered version of the bigger markets (bitstamp/gox, etc...)

we clearly broke the big downtrend a while ago but if you take a moving-average price line of a few days, cavirtex is at the top of the smoothed descending triangle...

fun stuff ahead.

legendary
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You lead and I'll watch you walk away.

Just hold your paper wallet in a clenched fist while you're talking to him or you might find out when you get home that it's gone.  Shocked  lol

Nahhh...  

I keep that paper wallet in my next door neighbours horse.

LOL

It's always surprised me (I've been watching Voorhees schtick for years) how many people are willing to suck on that little pussy's clit while watching him steal from people. It's obvious to me that he only wants to eliminate all consumer protection and regulation so HE can avoid prosecution. His version of a free market is one where everyone is free to give him their money and there is nothing holding him back. To me, he makes Jim Jones look like a saint. At least Jones was promising eternal life in his new version of society.  Grin
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