My point is that ponzi scheme is NOT appropriate for either. The government and its money system is much more complicated than some simple operation to rob the money of the poor for the rich, even though those kinds of dynamics that you describe are going on in the government.. NONETHELESS governmental systems remain much more complicated and nuanced as compared to a ponzi scheme which is generally a smaller operation designed smoke and mirrors to deceive.... surely there is some deception that is going on within government systems, as you suggest.. but ponzi scheme is NOT the correct concept and to attempt to simplify the fit into such a narrow definition is to oversimplify the various purposes and services of government....
Don't get me wrong, I am all for reform, and I am all for removing some of the corrupting influences of government and the disruption that bitcoin will be providing to potentially put more power into the hands of the people.
At the same time, I would NOT be so deluded as to believe that the government is going to disappear in some variations of its current form in any time in the very near future... transitions of systems take time... and certainly, we will be witnessing some of bitcoin's effects on various governmental and monetary institutions in the coming years.
Yes, Fiat is NOT a Ponzi and Taxes are NOT theft, because it is the government who is engaged in these activities. The name of the action depends on who is doing the action, not on the content of the action - we've been through this before, haven't we?
Euphemisms are being used by our culture to obfuscate and conceal the graveness of many of societies conditions. And you've fallen for it.
St. George Carlin will explain way better than meYes, I get the point that calling things or practices something other than what they are can be foolish.. and euphemism can be foolish, and yes there are a lot of foolish contradictions in this world in which we live and the way that various social and governmental systems are set up are also foolish.
Nonetheless, we are NOT going to make a whole heck of a lot of progress in analyzing, understanding and/or fixing the ways of the world by calling the government and its agents and institutions either thieves or a product of a ponzi scheme. These systems are much more innuendoed than that.
There are good people and well intentioned people carrying out a variety of governmental services, and there are also corrupt and corrupting practices and influences and behaviors within governmental institutions.. but the government has NOT been designed purposefully to engage in thievery nor as a ponzi scheme nor are the various governmental systems something that can be merely abandoned and start anew, believe it or NOT. Even though some people use the government and its various related institutions for variou kinds of selfish and thievery purposes, it was NOT designed for such (even though there are many flaws)....
AND, yes, hopefully, some day soon good people can find various democracizing purposes for bitcoin to provide positive influences to correct some of these negative and self-serving aspects of government.