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Topic: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion - page 28095. (Read 26709771 times)

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Do I need to tell the many ways in which the private keys of a victim can be obtained by a thief?
Please enlighten us.
OK, where do I start? You know what a 'computer' is?  A 'program'?  A 'hacker'? A 'trojan'? A 'key logger'? A 'hardware patch'? A 'memory dump'? A 'covert channel'? A 'malicious wallet software'?  A 'pseudo-pseudo-random number generator'?   A 'social engineer'? A 'disgruntled employee'? A  'naive user'?

legendary
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nano did fuck all.....

her husband must be furious!


I bought at 355, I sold at 420. I bought at 405, I sold at 520. I bought at 488, shorted at 490. now I have bought at 484. You will find evidence for all these if you care to look.

Nano took a lot of time to carefully go through and unmask your delusion multiple times in a dandy little timeline. It was gift from her to us. She practically put a li'l red bow on it. I'm not going to bother with it again when the truth is clear. All we need is for you begin deliriously shouting at us that you've "called the bottom" when you have done no such thing and we'll rename you BJAllen. You two can Indian Leg Wrestle over who needs the most attention.

nano took little quotes especially out of context. a very selective researcher indeed. I promise you, she is not a speculator or a trader, or experienced to say the least. she has no idea whats going on here, no wonder she is hurt. why dont you take your own advice, dont believe everything you read.
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nano did fuck all.....

her husband must be furious!


I bought at 355, I sold at 420. I bought at 405, I sold at 520. I bought at 488, shorted at 490. now I have bought at 484. You will find evidence for all these if you care to look.

Nano took a lot of time to carefully go through and unmask your delusion multiple times in a dandy little timeline. It was gift from her to us. She practically put a li'l red bow on it. I'm not going to bother with it again when the truth is clear. All we need is for you begin deliriously shouting at us that you've "called the bottom" when you have done no such thing and we'll rename you BJAllen. You two can Indian Leg Wrestle over who needs the most attention.
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I honestly don't understand why you spend so much time to spread some random misleading FUD.

Because bitcoiners keep repeating the same shameless lies?  Tongue

TLDR; please refer to one of the many rebuttals to this argument found earlier in this thread.  Cash, credit card data etc. etc. etc.

Unfortunately the thieves did not read those rebuttals, and continue to steal bitcoins even from computer-savy people.
legendary
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Largeish hidden buy order on Bitfinex @475 keeping the market up. It just bought 350 btc from me. I wonder how much more its willing to buy from me?

Ouch
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Do I need to tell the many ways in which the private keys of a victim can be obtained by a thief?

Please enlighten us.
legendary
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I have been expecting this.

...as you always say, even when you weren't. I wonder sometimes if you are more delusional than Risto.

I have proof in illustrations that I have been expecting this... I said this morning I was long from 484.  I haven't missed a cent in this bullrun. I was expecting this.
... read it and weep.

Nano already covered the bases well enough a couple days ago. Begone, welp!

nano did fuck all..... I bought at 355, I sold at 420. I bought at 405, I sold at 520. I bought at 488, shorted at 490. now I have bought at 484. You will find evidence for all these if you care to look.
KFR
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Per ardua ad luna
Bitcoin is easier to secure than any other exchange medium in the world.


Compared to other forms of theft, stealing bitcoins is actually very easy, very safe for the thief, and extremely lucrative.

Do I need to tell the many ways in which the private keys of a victim can be obtained by a thief? Once the thief gets hold of the private keys, it can immediately use them to transfer the victim's bitcoins to any other address.  This is easily automated so millions of coins can be stolen from millions of victims while the thief is taking a nap on the beach.  (Or even dead!) Compare that with trying to steal the same amount of cash from the same number of victims by stealing their credit card data or bank passwords. 

A bitcoin-stealing virus or trojan does not need to communicate with the thief or leave any other clue that could identify him.  The thief can leave the stolen coins "sleeping" on the receiving address for years, and then "cash them out" in many ways.  Again, try doing that with credit cards or bank wire transfers.

Another way to steal bitcoins is address phishing: the victim thinks that he is sending bitcoins to his car dealeer, but in fact the account address he got from their webpage is the thief's.

But we do not need to discuss theory. The MtGOX heist alone stole 5% of all the money in the bitcoin economy.  There have been dozens, if not hundreds, of other heists; the total may be 10% of all the money.  AFAIK, none of those thieves has been identified, much less caught; and none of those stolen coins were retrieved.


TLDR; please refer to one of the many rebuttals to this argument found earlier in this thread.  Cash, credit card data etc. etc. etc.  Roll Eyes

hero member
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I have been expecting this.

...as you always say, even when you weren't. I wonder sometimes if you are more delusional than Risto.

I have proof in illustrations that I have been expecting this... I said this morning I was long from 484.  I haven't missed a cent in this bullrun. I was expecting this.
... read it and weep.

Nano already covered the bases well enough a couple days ago. Begone, welp!
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Bitcoin is easier to secure than any other exchange medium in the world.


Compared to other forms of theft, stealing bitcoins is actually very easy, very safe for the thief, and extremely lucrative.

Do I need to tell the many ways in which the private keys of a victim can be obtained by a thief? Once the thief gets hold of the private keys, it can immediately use them to transfer the victim's bitcoins to any other address.  This is easily automated so millions of coins can be stolen from millions of victims while the thief is taking a nap on the beach.  (Or even dead!) Compare that with trying to steal the same amount of cash from the same number of victims by stealing their credit card data or bank passwords.  

A bitcoin-stealing virus or trojan does not need to communicate with the thief or leave any other clue that could identify him.  The thief can leave the stolen coins "sleeping" on the receiving address for years, and then "cash them out" in many ways.  Again, try doing that with credit cards or bank wire transfers.

Another way to steal bitcoins is address phishing: the victim thinks that he is sending bitcoins to his car dealeer, but in fact the account address he got from their webpage is the thief's.

But we do not need to discuss theory. The MtGOX heist alone stole 5% of all the money in the bitcoin economy.  There have been dozens, if not hundreds, of other heists; the total may be 10% of all the money.  AFAIK, none of those thieves has been identified, much less caught; and none of those stolen coins were retrieved.

Ever heard of M of N wallets? What can be stolen to me if one of the keys is in a safe place i cannot access at the moment? Besides, you can secure your bitcoins by opening an account at Lloyd's. I honestly don't understand why you spend so much time to spread some random misleading FUD. I can't wait to see you angry when we will reach the 4 digits again.
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Bitcoin is easier to secure than any other exchange medium in the world.


Compared to other forms of theft, stealing bitcoins is actually very easy, very safe for the thief, and extremely lucrative.


Go on then lets see you do it if it's actually very easy and safe
legendary
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yep, and the second floor was a buy target. I didnt get exactly 460, I closed my short and bought at 484 this morning.
hero member
Activity: 910
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Bitcoin is easier to secure than any other exchange medium in the world.


Compared to other forms of theft, stealing bitcoins is actually very easy, very safe for the thief, and extremely lucrative.

Do I need to tell the many ways in which the private keys of a victim can be obtained by a thief? Once the thief gets hold of the private keys, it can immediately use them to transfer the victim's bitcoins to any other address.  This is easily automated so millions of coins can be stolen from millions of victims while the thief is taking a nap on the beach.  (Or even dead!) Compare that with trying to steal the same amount of cash from the same number of victims by stealing their credit card data or bank passwords. 

A bitcoin-stealing virus or trojan does not need to communicate with the thief or leave any other clue that could identify him.  The thief can leave the stolen coins "sleeping" on the receiving address for years, and then "cash them out" in many ways.  Again, try doing that with credit cards or bank wire transfers.

Another way to steal bitcoins is address phishing: the victim thinks that he is sending bitcoins to his car dealeer, but in fact the account address he got from their webpage is the thief's.

But we do not need to discuss theory. The MtGOX heist alone stole 5% of all the money in the bitcoin economy.  There have been dozens, if not hundreds, of other heists; the total may be 10% of all the money.  AFAIK, none of those thieves has been identified, much less caught; and none of those stolen coins were retrieved.
legendary
Activity: 924
Merit: 1001
I have been expecting this.

...as you always say, even when you weren't. I wonder sometimes if you are more delusional than Risto.

I have proof in illustrations that I have been expecting this... I said this morning I was long from 484.  I haven't missed a cent in this bullrun. I was expecting this.

... read it and weep.





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possible short scalp for the day, or long entry target. buying all I can at 480 - 500.
hero member
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why no knee armor...

lol... let me guess, someone stole your sweet roll?
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The Wales are knudling again.
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