Topic: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion - page 28915. (Read 26609407 times)

Up here... atleast my side. BUY???

Jup...

Sell them all...
Buy them back...
Sell them again just to be sure!

Bitsamp down..atleast from my side. SELL?

what makes bitcoin decentralized is the fact that i can generate a valid public / private key pair on my own and send funds to it without consulting a central authority.
large mining pools are not a problem
large solo miners are not a problem
if anyone big miner doesn't play by the rules that the majority of the network sees fit, the network will simply ignore his blocks regardless of his hashing power
even if it was true that smaller scale mining projects are unfeasible, this doesn't mean bitcoin is centralized.
and the fact is there are many many many small medium and large scale miners, so your statement is false.

Correct Values > Readability!

What would change about our culture in your ideal world that would make charities better or more efficient?

EDIT: And what about our culture would change to make those who wouldn't otherwise give to charities suddenly decide to? Or what would change that would convince those donators to give to the now thousands of additional charities we have for every single basic human need that was in some part provided for previously?

And who will build them in your ideal world? The same private companies. Then who will pay for them? Who gets to drive on them? If it's tolls, the poor with commutes to their jobs will be adversely affected by it, especially when taken in the context of minimum wage no longer being a thing. If it's everyone pays a flat fee, again the burden is on the poor because paying $1,000 out of $10,000 hurts a hell of a lot more than paying $1,000 out of $100,000 (similar arguments work for thing like police and fire departments, etc.) If it's everyone pays a percentage of what they make, that's straight up taxes and the government is whoever is collecting those taxes.

No matter how you slice it, your world will in all likelihood suck for the have-nots.

The bitcoin corporate miners have centralized a decentralized experiment. That's how life rolls. Move on.

The government and charities we have now, are a reflection of our current culture. Culture is the collective operating system. Changing governments doesn't change much. We need to go one level deeper and change the underlying cultural operating system from which they spring. And how do we do that? Gandhi knew the answer.

I see. I fogot when I write the formula make histogram twice to make the indicator more readable so the formula I used is histogram = 2*(MACD – signal) for histogram, and  when compared with trading view before, I checked all value except histogram. I have not decided to make the MACD follow standard or keep it more readable. but the trends is correct.

You are assuming most people pay as much attention as you do. Most people donate to the charity they see on TV the most. They don't give a shit about said charity's efficiency, they just want to say, "Oh, I got this pretty pink ribbon, see how great I am!"

So who builds the roads now? The government? No. It just pays for them. It hires private companies to build them (in most cases. Sometimes they will have their own national road building company) So how is that working out for us? Is it the most efficient way available? Is it the most fair? I would doubt it. Just because the government has been the sole provider of something during your whole life doesn't mean it is impossible to provide in different (and better) ways. What about progress?


I am willing to concede that during the majority of history this might have indeed been an impossibility due to barriers to efficient communication. Now that the internet and associated technologies are ubiquitous I feel we need to have this discussion again. The need for empire to hold society together might be far greater in a world where information travels no faster than a horses gallop, than in one where information can propagate at the speed of light globally.

Just because something hasn't been done so far with the technological and cultural level of development we had so far, does not mean that i can not be done. I hope this is clear.

I would be glad to see people, who are *sure* that a society based on voluntary cooperation and decentralization can't work just stay with the old models they feel comfortable with and let the Neophiles try the new, weird, far-out stuff. If you're sure it can't work, just let them learn their lesson the hard way, will you? And if, by any chance, they might succeed in creating communities which are more free on an individual level, more efficient in their use of resources or otherwise desirable, that's a great thing, isn't it? Wouldn't they be happy about that? They would now have more choices than to "move to a different piece of land managed by a slightly different type of government".

I repeat: let's build that shit. If you pay attention, you can see the first green shoots appearing. Think of Seans Outpost or the Dogecoiners who sent Jamaicas bobsled team to the olympics. Crypto gives us the tools, now we need to use them. Help us, or move out of the way, please!

You answered it yourself. Poorly performing charities will lose donators and disappear. Poorly performing governments will continue to take your taxes whether you like it or not (frequently using the poor performance as the reason for doing so).

Bitstamp down.
Sell!

No jk about the sell part. HODL ffs.. Jesus, this has been boring for the last 4 days.

Inertia will take you quite a long way.

Yeah. Primarily I'm motivated by the ideology that people should be free. Quite frankly, the economic stuff is secondary.

But with that said, you have to be careful with your definitions. You named a couple of well performing "high state" economies, but not the low-state ones you are comparing them with. Also, one needs to take historical data into account. One must also take care to differentiate economic from social freedom, either of which will have different effects.

US seems to be faring pretty damn well with its 300 million. Germany too.

No. Simply the bigger the state, the worse the detriment. Possibly even non-linear.

True, and nothing you said would suggest you were. That is my mistake for addressing that point to the wrong person, as noted in my edit.


Positions of power will still exist, they'll just be different. If it turns out your way, those will likely be higher ups in corporations. If it turns out the way I think, it will be gang leaders and large families/groups that are in control. Sociopaths will simply tend to gravitate toward the top of whatever heap you throw them in.


The government is inefficient (which I agree with), but charities somehow magically aren't? Not to mention now nobody is obligated to pay into them, and no matter how idealistically you want to look at humanity, the fact is there are a lot of greedy and selfish people in the world, and none of them will be giving to charity unless they deem it good for their image.

Perhaps what this boils down to is a fundamental difference of opinion regarding how humanity functions and how things would go down in this new world. You have faith in humanity, I do not. You think it is possible to live in harmony without a government, I say many people need structure so as to not start killing each other, and some are so heartless and selfish that they wouldn't piss on someone on fire unless it benefited them in some way.

The devil you know, or the devil you don't.

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