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1) Could you explain how the authorities, namely the US government, having over a million BTC is extremely bullish?

I don't envision this a reality but it can be filed under "could explain bullishness":
http://rt.com/usa/us-postal-service-bitcoin-780/

BTC is a currency, as the U.S. gov has admitted. They can keep seized money and/or spend it:
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=91490480
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this is not about cheap coins man
Are you "full" fiat now or not ?

85% fiat , holding the 15% in bitcoins till death

edit:also bought some gox coins for  (10 to 1) just in case this turns out not so bad
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BFL has server error

wget http://www.butterflylabs.com
--2014-03-01 13:49:49--  http://www.butterflylabs.com/
Resolving www.butterflylabs.com... 141.101.123.48, 190.93.241.48, 190.93.242.48, ...
Connecting to www.butterflylabs.com|141.101.123.48|:80... connected.
HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 500 Internal Server Error
2014-03-01 13:49:50 ERROR 500: Internal Server Error.
It looks ominous.

There is a web page at http://www.butterflylabs.com/, it is just blank.

Code:




Feck.
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The fact that MtGOX filed for (and got?) "bankruptcy protection" rather than "bankrupcty" is very depressing. 

If I understand correctly, it means that no one will be looking into MtGOX books and files for months, maybe years.  We will not know what really happened, as Mark will be free to continue lying as he has in the past.  Any other people who may also have been involved in the loss will walk away free and unsuspected.  The police will not be called to investigate the "theft", and MtGOX clients will probably get no additional information from Mark that could help them track down the thief.  We will not know whether any other exchanges of bitcoin-based enterprises were involved, or may have fallen into the same trap.  Tongue

By the way, I applaud all the other exchange owners who, realizing the importance of public trust for the survival of bitcoin and hence of their business, have promptly disclosed their financial positions, and proved that they do own enough bitcoins to cover all the BTC account balances of their clients.  I am anxiously waiting for the reports of the external auditors that they have hired to check their books.  Wink <---[ note the smiley ]
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this is not about cheap coins man
Are you "full" fiat now or not ?
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*artificial pumping = fiat shortage on Gox made people buy back coins after the April13 bubble and pumped the price in all Markets

*This* worries me.  I have thought about it before.


It happened , I can tell you for sure me and all the people I know moved from Gox this way (~3000 coins @ 80-100 USD/BTC)

after moving we decided to hold until we get the same price on Stamp,
meanwhile other people decided to do the same forcing the price up in Gox and consequently in other exchanges


maybe this whole december rally was caused by Gox fiat insolvancy

Yes, the china hype and volume on btcchina or huobi  are a smokescreen !
We all want cheap bitcoin but this is BS


China was a big contributor to the last rally , but that doesn't change the fact that the above happened
have you heard the term "positive feadback" ?

Gox price was going up (people  buying and moving) --->  price goes up everywhere else (including china) --->

people who recently moved from Gox hold  ---->     Gox price going up (more people  buying and moving)

this is not about cheap coins man
this is what happened

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I wonder, who else watch this thread constantly even though they only hold and buy, never sell ?

That would be me Smiley

I stare at charts because it gives my obsessively analytical mind something to do.

EDIT: it's not fair to say I never sell. I do spend. And then buy some more. And sending micro-donations to all sorts of people has become my hobby  Cheesy
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*artificial pumping = fiat shortage on Gox made people buy back coins after the April13 bubble and pumped the price in all Markets

*This* worries me.  I have thought about it before.


It happened , I can tell you for sure me and all the people I know moved from Gox this way (~3000 coins @ 80-100 USD/BTC)

after moving we decided to hold until we get the same price on Stamp,
meanwhile other people decided to do the same forcing the price up in Gox and consequently in other exchanges


maybe this whole december rally was caused by Gox fiat insolvancy

Yes, the china hype and volume on btcchina or huobi  are a smokescreen !
We all want cheap bitcoin but this is BS
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Jesus was a (Goddamn) hippy socialist
*artificial pumping = fiat shortage on Gox made people buy back coins after the April13 bubble and pumped the price in all Markets

*This* worries me.  I have thought about it before.


It happened , I can tell you for sure me and all the people I know moved from Gox this way (~3000 coins @ 80-100 USD/BTC)

after moving we decided to hold until we get the same price on Stamp,
meanwhile other people decided to do the same forcing the price up in Gox and consequently in other exchanges


maybe this whole december rally was caused by Gox fiat insolvancy
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BFL has server error

wget http://www.butterflylabs.com
--2014-03-01 13:49:49--  http://www.butterflylabs.com/
Resolving www.butterflylabs.com... 141.101.123.48, 190.93.241.48, 190.93.242.48, ...
Connecting to www.butterflylabs.com|141.101.123.48|:80... connected.
HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 500 Internal Server Error
2014-03-01 13:49:50 ERROR 500: Internal Server Error.
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Jorge they filed for bankruptcy protection.

Indeed it seems so.  That is very bearish  Wink since it means that there will be more press releases from Mark.  The last two appear to have resulted in permanent drops of ~350 CNY at Huobi...
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what is happening around Bitcoin businesses ? Butterfly Labs website also mysteriously went down and left so many customers who pre-ordered millions of dollars into their new generation hardware empty hands...

Seems to have been just a temporary glitch of their webserver (and a bit of healthy paranoia).

it is still not working for me ....
BFL's website often goes offline, or is so slow that it barely works or is replaced by a Cloudflare page

 the server is online the ping response is just impressive, there is no DDOS looking at that response time:




and the source page is totaly empty.....
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what is happening around Bitcoin businesses ? Butterfly Labs website also mysteriously went down and left so many customers who pre-ordered millions of dollars into their new generation hardware empty hands...

http://dorktech.com/where-did-butterflylabs-go/

Butterfly the 2nd version of MTgox, and empty website:

http://www.butterflylabs.com/


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3/1/14 – Popular Bitcoin ASIC hardware/software company ButterflyLabs has mysteriously disappeared Friday evening. The company was just getting ready to roll-out their 600/GH and 300/GH cards that many individuals and companies have pre-ordered as early as 8 months ago. Their website currently just shows an empty blank white page at the moment. Although upon deeper digging, some of their directories still exist on the server. Also, the ButterflyLabs Twitter page is also not showing any new signs of activity. Does this mean that ButterflyLabs is also going to leave us as well?

This comes just a few days after MtGox, a highly used Bitcoin/USD trading platform, went down due to mistakes made in the security of the platform.

What is next for Bitcoin? All I can say is that we are in for a bumpy ride – so strap on your seat-belts and hold on.

(I will be updating this page if any new information comes in. Feel free to comment if you know what is going on. Our official Reddit comment thread is located here)

© 2014, Payton Peterson. All rights reserved.

Maybe they had all their coins at empty gox?

ButterflyLabs has disappeared?
Did anyone notice the huge jump in network hashrate in the last day or two? I mean HUGE! (It spiked from 27,000Th/s to 35,000Th/s yesterday)
I wonder if they cut and ran with all the new kit, and are mining with everyones preorders?
Wouldn't surprise me one bit, after how they played the last generation.
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what is happening around Bitcoin businesses ? Butterfly Labs website also mysteriously went down and left so many customers who pre-ordered millions of dollars into their new generation hardware empty hands...

Seems to have been just a temporary glitch of their webserver (and a bit of healthy paranoia).

it is still not working for me ....
BFL's website often goes offline, or is so slow that it barely works or is replaced by a Cloudflare page
sr. member
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what is happening around Bitcoin businesses ? Butterfly Labs website also mysteriously went down and left so many customers who pre-ordered millions of dollars into their new generation hardware empty hands...

Seems to have been just a temporary glitch of their webserver (and a bit of healthy paranoia).

it is still not working for me ....

they're a bit of delay.
About 2 weeks™
legendary
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things you own end up owning you
what is happening around Bitcoin businesses ? Butterfly Labs website also mysteriously went down and left so many customers who pre-ordered millions of dollars into their new generation hardware empty hands...

Seems to have been just a temporary glitch of their webserver (and a bit of healthy paranoia).

it is still not working for me ....
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what is happening around Bitcoin businesses ? Butterfly Labs website also mysteriously went down and left so many customers who pre-ordered millions of dollars into their new generation hardware empty hands...

Seems to have been just a temporary glitch of their webserver (and a bit of healthy paranoia).
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Jorge they filed for bankruptcy protection.

is this true?

I thought they filed for bankruptcy.

I don't know Japanese law, but I have seen a Canadian company go through a bankruptcy protection. Some people at the company were fired, some quit, some stayed... Within 2 years they were back to business as usual. Admittedly, I watched this from the outside, I have no idea of the internal workings of the procedure.

Yes it was bankruptcy protection, I'd imagine mainly because of the shit storm of class actions landing on their desk. In a normal business with products to sell or services I would agree with but at this point how to Gox plan on making back 850,00 BTC while having no btc? There's no business left other than the brand which at one point investors were considering buying but as soon as the non-disclosure of the lost funds was revealed the investors didn't want to touch it with a shitty stick. One of the investors told his story on reddit.
Maybe they're hoping that their incompetence will drive BTC down to 0.1 cent per bitcoin, then they'll only have to find $850
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