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Topic: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion - page 29385. (Read 26609914 times)

newbie
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BitcoinBuilder Last Trade Price: 0.50005 ฿ (Gox/Bitstamp: 0.446)

I have never seen it this close, it was trading at about a 50% premium in the past few days. Not sure what's up.
Fiat money entering Gox to arbitrage between BB and GOX.

On the weekend?
I think that is possible, yeah. Via OKPay. Or it may be that bank transfers (to Gox's bank account) were completed on Friday but Gox only processed them (crediting people's accounts) on Saturday.

I'm speculating though.
sr. member
Activity: 336
Merit: 250
♫ the AM bear who cares ♫
BitcoinBuilder Last Trade Price: 0.50005 ฿ (Gox/Bitstamp: 0.446)

I have never seen it this close, it was trading at about a 50% premium in the past few days. Not sure what's up.
Fiat money entering Gox to arbitrage between BB and GOX.

On the weekend?
newbie
Activity: 21
Merit: 0
BitcoinBuilder Last Trade Price: 0.50005 ฿ (Gox/Bitstamp: 0.446)

I have never seen it this close, it was trading at about a 50% premium in the past few days. Not sure what's up.
Fiat money entering Gox to arbitrage between BB and GOX.
sr. member
Activity: 336
Merit: 250
♫ the AM bear who cares ♫
BitcoinBuilder Last Trade Price: 0.50005 ฿ (Gox/Bitstamp: 0.446)

I have never seen it this close, it was trading at about a 50% premium in the past few days. Not sure what's up.
legendary
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Self-Custody is a right. Say no to"Non-custodial"
BSP is Bitstamp
BFX is Bitfinex
Gox is Gox
BTCE gets 4 letters because it is special.


Thank you for the basic lesson... Smiley
sr. member
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Blitz:The price affects the perception of the news
sr. member
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♫ the AM bear who cares ♫
A lot of people have been making noise that this bounce back up is irrational... But that doesn't consider the possibility that Gox going to sub-$100 was the irrational thing.

The odds of insolvency can't be that high, and besides, they can't be THAT insolvent, right?

So maybe this is Bitcoinland waking up to the unbelievable deals at Gox after an irrational spell.

From that perspective - yes, this trend may very well be real. It's looking pretty solid on the charts.

I like rational comments like that.  I think sub-100 was irrational, so you may well be correct.  Let's watch.  

edit:  BitcoinWisdom is down for me, so I'm like a dopehead with no fix.   Cheesy

http://www.bitcoinity.org/markets/mtgox/USD

That'll tide you over.  Smiley
sr. member
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Man I love bitcoin. Took one day off and it seems Bitcoin is going to the moon again. What was the great news guys ?
sr. member
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Blitz:The price affects the perception of the news
A lot of people have been making noise that this bounce back up is irrational... But that doesn't consider the possibility that Gox going to sub-$100 was the irrational thing.

The odds of insolvency can't be that high, and besides, they can't be THAT insolvent, right?

So maybe this is Bitcoinland waking up to the unbelievable deals at Gox after an irrational spell.

From that perspective - yes, this trend may very well be real. It's looking pretty solid on the charts.

I like rational comments like that.  I think sub-100 was irrational, so you may well be correct.  Let's watch.  

edit:  BitcoinWisdom is down for me, so I'm like a dopehead with no fix.   Cheesy
sr. member
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♫ the AM bear who cares ♫
In other news, I think that I understand that a fudish post on reddit released the hounds of gox and Stamp and BTC-e  dutifully followed.  Correct?

If that is what happened, then I surmise that demand is sooooo pent up that any tiny spark is enough to set off the fireworks.  Or, perhaps it is just the fear of being left behind.  I'll go with the former until proven otherwise.

So now what?  Will the recent levels hold for long?

A lot of people have been making noise that this bounce back up is irrational... But that doesn't consider the possibility that Gox going to sub-$100 was the irrational thing.

The odds of insolvency can't be that high (6 to 1???), and besides, they can't be THAT insolvent, right? Even if they were insolvent you'd only need to get 1/6 of your coins back for the better decision to be not to sell at $100.

So maybe this is Bitcoinland waking up to the unbelievable deals at Gox after an irrational spell.

From that perspective - yes, this trend may very well be real. It's looking pretty solid on the charts.
sr. member
Activity: 266
Merit: 250
Blitz:The price affects the perception of the news
Sorry you Ossies are havin trouble with your leader.  Wanna trade?

In other news, I think that I understand that a fudish post on reddit released the hounds of gox and Stamp and BTC-e  dutifully followed.  Correct?

If that is what happened, then I surmise that demand is sooooo pent up that any tiny spark is enough to set off the fireworks.  Or, perhaps it is just the fear of being left behind.  I'll go with the former until proven otherwise.

So now what?  Will the recent levels hold for long?
copper member
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Clueless!
When an internet store does that sort of thing, don't we call it a scam site?

I'd personally rather wait until Gox actually defaults, disappears or gets sued into jail before I call it a scam. Perhaps you're not familiar with the Butterfly Labs rigmarole?

ah.....as they said in an old star trek episode "That is the equation!" ...it all make perfect sense a bitcoin exchange that works on the methodology of Butterfly Labs..we take your $$$ for btc on the exchange ...we speculate with it a bit for our own use either by the investment of your dollars or bitcoin intrest free for 4-9 months..then MAYBE  we give it back to you at a rate worth dumping on you ....less then when you paid USD for it...with little risk to our bottom line......

well played....well played indeed!

englighted i am

Searing

full member
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Lazy, cynical and insolent since 1968

yea I want out of Australia too - I just don't know of any truly independent and non-corrupt place to go to though.


U want out of Australia?

U clearly have no idea how good you guys have it there compared to just about everywhere else.

Spot the Pom!!  Shocked Wink

Seems my fellow Aussies have addressed this in some length and everything they say is true and then some.  For example, you could add our energy policy and our relationship with the environment, the extreme political apathy and the increase in blind nationalism....which is reflected in our fashion sense



And we love our Prime Minister so much we can't stand to look at him anymore...
http://stoptonymeow.com/
legendary
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Degenerate bull hatter & Bitcoin monotheist
Speaking of does anyone know who owns BFX?  Is it Giancarlo or someone behind him?
legendary
Activity: 1442
Merit: 2282
Degenerate bull hatter & Bitcoin monotheist
BSP is Bitstamp
BFX is Bitfinex
Gox is Gox
BTCE gets 4 letters because it is special.
hero member
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When an internet store does that sort of thing, don't we call it a scam site?

I'd personally rather wait until Gox actually defaults, disappears or gets sued into jail before I call it a scam. Perhaps you're not familiar with the Butterfly Labs rigmarole?
sr. member
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♫ the AM bear who cares ♫
Gox/Stamp ratio is approaching BitcoinBuilder BTC/GoxBTC. Not sure what that means.

Before long it may start making sense for bears to move coins into Gox so they can sell for cash and wait for the drop.
legendary
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Self-Custody is a right. Say no to"Non-custodial"
Tinfoil hat time.

Let's assume for the moment that Gox has been completely manipulated since June (when USD withdrawals were stopped).

Did Gox lead the rally to $1000?  Was all price growth above $266 driven by people just trying to get their $ out of Gox?  Is the current price of $613 just a sham relic of inability to withdraw fiat from Gox?


Even if you assume that Gox was completely manipulated, part of the reason for the October, NOvember and December rallies was due to the Chinese and the lack of confidence in the dollar.

Chinese came into BTC and pushed the prices upward... NO?
sr. member
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♫ the AM bear who cares ♫
Tinfoil hat time.

Let's assume for the moment that Gox has been completely manipulated since June (when USD withdrawals were stopped).

Did Gox lead the rally to $1000?  Was all price growth above $266 driven by people just trying to get their $ out of Gox?  

Since most of the price increase happened around the time of the Senate hearing, I think we can definitively say "no".
legendary
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LEALANA Bitcoin Grim Reaper
Looking to make 0.5 BTC bets:  My take - Mt Gox will restore and withdrawls before Tuesday the 18th 12 PM Eastern.

Your take - Mt Gox does not restore withdrawals before Tuesday the 18th 12PM.

I have 3.5 BTC ready to go.

PM any questions

0.5 BTC bet accepted. Mt. Gox won't enable all withdrawals till feb 18 2014.
Shake

Accepted

Witnessed.
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