Topic: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion - page 30304. (Read 26708978 times)

You do have to admit, it is the best excuse TPTB have come up with for total world government takeover yet.

The methods being proposed to "lower carbon emissions" would be devastating to the world economy, lead to the death of millions from reduced quality of living conditions and could lead to technological slump that we, as a race, might never recover from.

I happen to be somewhat skeptical on global warming (agnostic rather than denier) but even if its true, our response to it needs to be cautious and closely monitored. AGW advocates often espouse the precautionary principle but the precautionary principle tells us not to drastically change the way we're doing things without good cause.

It is closer to "we the wise government understand things, the little people do not understand things and so need to be protected from risky things like bitcoin by us the wise government, gib dem to usssss"

Being French, red tape comes naturally to you, and you may not perceive immediately what a red cape you have waved.

I consider myself rationally goal-directed; I perceive regulation as damage, and route around it.  Damage is unavoidable, but highly undesirable.  If damaged severely enough I will die.  

This is partly because the Republican party decided to partner with the Christian Right back in the Reagan years (a losing proposition with religion on the decline and the increasing social liberalization since the war years ) and partly because so many of them are mercenary fucks with no principles.

I read the Chinese version and basically it says don't buy bitcoins, sodl all your bitcoins if you have any, and if you don't have any then shotr at maximum margin.

Edit:  Just wanted to say that my interpretation has been confirmed by sources.

?! this means that the first countries which will provide a clear and fair frame for it instead of banning it are likely to boost their economies. thats all.

I didn't say to leave, didn't advise you at all actually, just noticed that your priorities are different than mine.  I need highly available networks.  I just wouldn't remain in a place that didn't have multiple network options.
Yes, tethering is one of my go-to options.  Just one network link is a failure state waiting to happen.

And...It beats hoping the feds will be "helpful" with new regulation.

Every army needs cannonfodder.

Yup, you're french alright.

There is a live conference going on in China atm, they just said

"Japanese public television:
There is a question about bitcoin, as China's central bank on Bitcoin development in China how to treat? Do you think bitcoin will bring what risks? The Chinese government should prohibit the use of bitcoins it?
2014-01-15 12:22:09
Shengsong Cheng:
About Bitcoin problems, the People's Bank and other five ministries jointly issued a notice, I would like to emphasize, first, we propose, is not the true meaning of bitcoin currency. Second, we prompt the Bitcoin risk and made the request.
Bitcoin is a specific virtual goods. What I understand is called money? The first is the medium of exchange currency is widely accepted by society as a whole medium for the exchange of commodities. Monetary developments in the history of thousands of years, once the physical currency, the final form of physical currency is gold and silver. Like Marx said natural gold is money. The most essential characteristic of money is a medium of exchange and measure of value. Itself to be valuable, so it can be denominated. Since gold production is limited, it can not meet the growing social and economic development, so the gold standard collapsed. From the later seventies of last century, the world monetary credit system completely behind monetary credit system is a powerful force of national credit and forced the country, so we put the national currency, credit currency called legal tender.
2014-01-15 12:22:27
Shengsong Cheng:
We take a look at Bitcoin, Bitcoin is not having the characteristics of these currencies? As far as I know, the vast majority of countries do not recognize the Bitcoin currency status. Currency in circulation in addition to the media, the value of scale functions, there is a very important function is denominated instruments. Bitcoin itself is not denominated in the currency, nor as the quote currency is possible. Plunged wild speculation "currency" can be used as currency it? Bitcoin transactions for good, good investment, you need to pay attention to its risk. People's Bank and the relevant departments will continue to focus on the movements of Bitcoin and associated risks, strengthen the monitoring, analysis, and guide the public to establish a correct concept of money and investment philosophy. Thank you.
"

I don't really know what this means. I used google translate on this page:-

http://www.china.com.cn/zhibo/2014-01/15/content_31172976.htm

Conversely, many people may be looking to altcoins. They think it's "Too late" to get into Bitcoin so they are jumping on things like the awful dogecoin. When that starts to stagnate and doesn't show the returns they want, the money will flood into Bitcoin. So we'll see another period of slow change followed by another insane leap on the inevitable demise of 95-98% of alt.

lol

Well... I'll still place my 2-satoshis on the scientific process of systematic empiricism getting it right this time as well. Remember folks, science gave you bitcoins!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Climate_change#Human_influences

I remember as a kid in 1980 or thereabouts, it was all about global cooling. The "scientists" were minutes away from covering the artic caps with soot to absorb more radiation to prevent the ice age we are having now.

You can't fight nature. It will also win given enough time.

heard of solar cycles? *if* thats the real deal, i doubt there is anything we can do. imo fukushima's radioactivity disaster is far more critical yet nothing has been successfully done to make it better. hell we dont even talk about it in the mainstream media anymore. WTF 

i am telling you, dont listen to those sold scientists who only focus on subjects that pays alot (and are advertised by the media a lot more - obviously because of the money they generate) but arent as critical as many other.

There is no actual 'global warming' going on during the past 10 years, so now they renamed it to just 'Climate Change'. I have spent time doing research at a University, I know how it works and really all I can say is that our climate is far too complex to be fully grasped by our current state of science. Don't overestimate how much science actually can predict and explain, it's useful yes but it also has its flaws and limits.

I have no doubt that humanity is not managing the earth's resources very well and we are effectively destroying our environment, but trying to lower carbon emissions isn't going to help one bit. It only serves as another way to tax so governments can stick themselves deeper into debt. What has to happen is to stop our obsession with economic 'growth', because that's what makes us deplete resources faster and faster eventually leading to a catastrophy.

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Seriously, just get tethered. Even if you only have to pay for one month, it'd be worth it (if you don't know how to do it for free)