Topic: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion - page 32315. (Read 26469335 times)

quite exactly, and fuck OT, everyone must have watched this at least once:


Living Utopia (The Anarchists & The Spanish Revolution)

This is not about Bitcoin integration, but defining a clear policy about selling and buying Bitcoin on eBay, I think.

I assume eBay is kinda liable for what is listed there. Just some brainstorming.. people sell Bitcoin on eBay -> eBay is a plattform to purchase Bitcoin -> eBay might be considered as MSB or whatever. << I'm sure it's not like this at all, but ... I hope you get the point.

Anyway, this is still great news. People working at eBay are infected with the Bitcoin idea. Today it's about policies, tomorrow might be about integration.

My choice of authorities regarding anarchism and communism are Marx, Engels, Pannaekok, Trotsky, Lenin, Gramsci, Bakunin, Proudhon, Kropotkin, Rudolf Rocker, Diego Abad de Santillana and a long etcetera, and they all agree on the definitions. Oh, and they also agree on being anti-capitalists... And finally, they also agree that for a total liberation money needs to cease to exist. For bolshevics, that would happen in the "final" stage of the revolution (anarchy or libertarian communism). For anarchists, from the very first moment. That's why stating that a currency (BTC) is "communist" or "anarcho-syndicalist" (which BTW is just a strategy to reach anarcho-collectivism) is quite strange.

Anyway, i've haven't been so much bullish since April.

Paypal do deal with multiple currencies so it's not totally out of line. There are a few shortcomings of Bitcoin (Not major or insurmountable in my opinion) that a Paypal-like service could smooth over. Most notably, as a (for the most part) trusted financial part of the purchase chain, Paypal could enter the role of an escrow service, possibly with pre-funded accounts.

Sorry, but no.

Anarcho-syndicalism = workers control the means of production. You work in a factory - you control directly the production process, you participate directly in the decision making and you OWN the fruit of your labour.

Communism = social ownership of means of production. It might seem similar, but its not at all - as a worker you do not "own" the means of production nor the fruits of your labour in a communist system, the "society" does, which basically means that the State owns them. That's why Bakunin said communism was going to be "the biggest lie of the Century", and it even said communism was just a form of "state capitalism", as the worker did not control the means of production nor the fruit of his labour. An exception would be Pannekoek's council communism, which was totally opposed to russian bolshevism, and was in many ways much closer to Kropotkin's and Bakunnin's anarcho-communism.

And again: Bitcoin is just a currency, and it has no political sign - but saying is "anarcho-syndicalist" is simply wrong. Most of original anarchists (or "left" anarchists, as some would say, especially in the US) wouldn't even use money as we know it (an exception would be Proudhon's mutualism), in fact during the most relevant anarcho-syndicalist experience in history (Aragón, Spain: 1930-1938) the "Peseta" of the Spanish Republica was not used at all. They had no currency nor legal tender, they just seldomly issued their own "money" which were just vouchers or IOU's with very specific uses. And BTW: anarcho-syndicalism is just a WAY or STRATEGY to reach "anarchy", or "anarcho-communism" or "libertarian communism", as many US folks like to name them to distinguish them from their very own, ill-named "anarcho-capitalism")

Fascinating experience BTW (the one in Aragón), it was a pity that both the spanish fascists and the KPSS (Russian communists) joined forced to crush what could have been one of the most relevant and game-changing revolutions in Europe's history.

Sorry of the OT, folks.

maybe someone got desperate after the 10 dollar dip? i don't know. i can only speculate.

http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1lruid/so_did_we_figure_out_why_ebay_possibly_made_this/cc24oke

I think it's fake, unfortunately.

This link shows the same page:

http://edccdn.com/bitcoin/

Yep. That's my skepticism as well. Note that the youtube video is posted by some random name, and also no comments. I dunno, we will get there guys- just we don't need to fake it.

And what questions would we like to see asked?

I'm willing, who will get on the phone with me and record & verify?

That is an marvelous idea, do it!

I find it weird that the blog entry is missing comment section below the post.

different facebook "share" button.
no date.
the images are not hosted on their site.

I did not find this blog entry(still looking for it) after checking some of their older "deals blog" posts.


Also, I can still remember the fake blog @ CNN Politics Blog about an order by a judge to seize the assets of   BTC-e.

Any attempt to brand bitcoins would be met with nothing less than hilarious ridicule. They aren't stupid and they know this. They should be (and apparently are) trying to gauge public perception of the possibility of coins being integrated into both ebay and paypal.

no integration is not easy.

unlike most fly by night btc websites, paypal could lose their msb licenses so they would need to understand how the sale, exchange, storage and transmission of btc impacts their current compliance operations.

I've long wondered if Paypal were considering Bitcoin, not as a medium for eBay transactions, etc., but as a means to facilitate, speed up, and reduce the cost of large internal international transfers, and also as a way to make it easier for customers to add money to their accounts.

I don't use credit cards (don't believe in them) so adding funds to my Paypal account takes a week. I try to keep about $2000 in my account in case I need to buy something in a hurry on eBay or miss out.

If Paypal accepted  bitcoins, you could see an item on eBay, transfer sufficient funds to Paypal in minutes with Bitcoin, and immediately place a bid or execute a buy-it-now. Since your deposit is irreversible, Paypal would have no reason to make you wait a week.

If a Bitcoin deposit option were available I probably would have already used it a dozen times in the past year alone.

Just my 2 satoshis.

where is the buy now button

I'm sure they figured that out before they made this video.

http://deals.ebay.com/blog/whats-the-deal-with-bitcoins-anyway/

That would still probably make us rich = fine with me.