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To me, it looks like it is going down now.. Many of the bulls think speculatively that by selling now, it is easy to buy back later. While this thinking is wishful (not all of them can buy the coins back - sub-100 or even at all(!!)), it is enough to take the price down in a long slide to around $50.

Only the growing usage will save bitcoin now. It may take months before it catches up. We are 2 months to the bear market now, I would not be surprised for 2 more months. 4 more would be a surprise.

Don't sell your coins. In 2011 only the ones lost who sold. I bought about BTC5000 then from somebody who could have held onto his treasure but chose to throw it away for a pittance. Read my threads (links in the sig). Don't sell.

You can't be sure the guy who sold you 5000 Bitcoin didn't buy double that back at the bottom.



Maybe he did, but not in a lump sum so there isn't a rally? It makes sense for him to keep the downtrend going until he is almost out of fiat.
legendary
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Ok I'm looking at that chart. It confirms what I said. And now?

Yes, I just did the same ...
And now it's time for me to admit that I am wrong !
Oops ... apologies for being patronising - that misconception was firmly rooted in my head

Moving swiftly on after being schooled ...



It's an odd measure ... gotta go away and get my head round what that actually means in absolute terms rather than trends

LOL that gif is priceless. Grin And thanks for being honest and admit you were wrong, not many are able to do that on a public forum. You have my respect for that. Smiley
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To me, it looks like it is going down now.. Many of the bulls think speculatively that by selling now, it is easy to buy back later. While this thinking is wishful (not all of them can buy the coins back - sub-100 or even at all(!!)), it is enough to take the price down in a long slide to around $50.

Only the growing usage will save bitcoin now. It may take months before it catches up. We are 2 months to the bear market now, I would not be surprised for 2 more months. 4 more would be a surprise.

Don't sell your coins. In 2011 only the ones lost who sold. I bought about BTC5000 then from somebody who could have held onto his treasure but chose to throw it away for a pittance. Read my threads (links in the sig). Don't sell.

You can't be sure the guy who sold you 5000 Bitcoin didn't buy double that back at the bottom.

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To me, it looks like it is going down now.. Many of the bulls think speculatively that by selling now, it is easy to buy back later. While this thinking is wishful (not all of them can buy the coins back - sub-100 or even at all(!!)), it is enough to take the price down in a long slide to around $50.

Only the growing usage will save bitcoin now. It may take months before it catches up. We are 2 months to the bear market now, I would not be surprised for 2 more months. 4 more would be a surprise.

Don't sell your coins. In 2011 only the ones lost who sold. I bought about BTC5000 then from somebody who could have held onto his treasure but chose to throw it away for a pittance. Read my threads (links in the sig). Don't sell.

Our perma-bull is feeling bearish. I feel odd, like a terror has gripped my very bones. Sold 20% of all bitcoins, heres hoping I can short.

Same thoughts. Sad to hear, as I loved those ultra bullish bold predictions.

rpietila, why do you come up with this conclusion now? Nothing fundamental has changed and the only argument one could come up would be "we didn't skyrock already, that's why".
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To me, it looks like it is going down now.. Many of the bulls think speculatively that by selling now, it is easy to buy back later. While this thinking is wishful (not all of them can buy the coins back - sub-100 or even at all(!!)), it is enough to take the price down in a long slide to around $50.

Only the growing usage will save bitcoin now. It may take months before it catches up. We are 2 months to the bear market now, I would not be surprised for 2 more months. 4 more would be a surprise.

Don't sell your coins. In 2011 only the ones lost who sold. I bought about BTC5000 then from somebody who could have held onto his treasure but chose to throw it away for a pittance. Read my threads (links in the sig). Don't sell.

Our perma-bull is feeling bearish. I feel odd, like a terror has gripped my very bones. Sold 20% of all bitcoins, heres hoping I can short.
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Uhh, guys...


this is the game plan for the next 364 days



100$ a coin Cheesy

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To me, it looks like it is going down now.. Many of the bulls think speculatively that by selling now, it is easy to buy back later. While this thinking is wishful (not all of them can buy the coins back - sub-100 or even at all(!!)), it is enough to take the price down in a long slide to around $50.

Only the growing usage will save bitcoin now. It may take months before it catches up. We are 2 months to the bear market now, I would not be surprised for 2 more months. 4 more would be a surprise.

Don't sell your coins. In 2011 only the ones lost who sold. I bought about BTC5000 then from somebody who could have held onto his treasure but chose to throw it away for a pittance. Read my threads (links in the sig). Don't sell.
legendary
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bid sum/ask sum = USD/btc
price = USD/btc

does it mean that the sum of all bids is expressed in USD and the sum of all the asks is expressed in BTC?
sorry for noob question

Yes it does. Sum of all bids is simply the total amount of USD that's sitting on the orderbook wanting to buy BTC. Sum of asks is the total amount of BTC for sale on the orderbook.
So 'ask sum' in the bid sum/ask sum RATIO is defined in BTC is it ? Roll Eyes
Look at the chart below, which has 'Bid Sum [USD]' on one side and  'Ask Sum [kBTC]' on the other and see if this confirms your theory

Hint ... it doesn't

You can /facepalm all you want but that doesn't make you right. Smiley By the way I don't see any chart in your post. And I don't know what your point is about ratio, the current price is also a ratio...

I was referrng to the lower of the two chart in the original post

Ok I'm looking at that chart. It confirms what I said. And now?
KS
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could anyone point me to a site where I can see the PSAR? ('cept for bitcoincharts.com)

In oranges or potatoes ?

oranges, apples too. potatoes are used for sth entirely different. check your maths!
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legendary
Activity: 1246
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bid sum/ask sum = USD/btc
price = USD/btc

does it mean that the sum of all bids is expressed in USD and the sum of all the asks is expressed in BTC?
sorry for noob question

Yes it does. Sum of all bids is simply the total amount of USD that's sitting on the orderbook wanting to buy BTC. Sum of asks is the total amount of BTC for sale on the orderbook.
So 'ask sum' in the bid sum/ask sum RATIO is defined in BTC is it ? Roll Eyes
Look at the chart below, which has 'Bid Sum [USD]' on one side and  'Ask Sum [kBTC]' on the other and see if this confirms your theory

Hint ... it doesn't

You can /facepalm all you want but that doesn't make you right. Smiley By the way I don't see any chart in your post. And I don't know what your point is about ratio, the current price is also a ratio...
member
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bid sum/ask sum = USD/btc
price = USD/btc

does it mean that the sum of all bids is expressed in USD and the sum of all the asks is expressed in BTC?
sorry for noob question

Yes it does. Sum of all bids is simply the total amount of USD that's sitting on the orderbook wanting to buy BTC. Sum of asks is the total amount of BTC for sale on the orderbook.



So 'ask sum' in the bid sum/ask sum RATIO is defined in BTC is it ? Roll Eyes
Look at the chart below, which has 'Bid Sum [USD]' on one side and  'Ask Sum [kBTC]' on the other and see if this confirms your theory

Hint ... it doesn't

are you *very* sure....
legendary
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Hmm, everyone expects price to continue going way down into the double digits.

So that behavior/expectation must already be priced in, meaning we're not going much lower than this!  Grin

That said, I'm still expecting low 90's within a week from now. Unless the manipulators are REALLY GOOD at keeping it close to $100.

I think we will go down to $90 or even $80 until we have some good news or another country do like Cyprus, after that we will skyrocket.

Of course is just my opinion Wink
sr. member
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Hmm, everyone expects price to continue going way down into the double digits.

So that behavior/expectation must already be priced in, meaning we're not going much lower than this!  Grin

That said, I'm still expecting low 90's within a week from now. Unless the manipulators are REALLY GOOD at keeping it close to $100.
member
Activity: 98
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bid sum/ask sum = USD/btc
price = USD/btc

does it mean that the sum of all bids is expressed in USD and the sum of all the asks is expressed in BTC?
sorry for noob question

Yes it does. Sum of all bids is simply the total amount of USD that's sitting on the orderbook wanting to buy BTC. Sum of asks is the total amount of BTC for sale on the orderbook.

that was my understanding... Huh
legendary
Activity: 1246
Merit: 1000
bid sum/ask sum = USD/btc
price = USD/btc

does it mean that the sum of all bids is expressed in USD and the sum of all the asks is expressed in BTC?
sorry for noob question

Yes it does. Sum of all bids is simply the total amount of USD that's sitting on the orderbook wanting to buy BTC. Sum of asks is the total amount of BTC for sale on the orderbook.
KS
sr. member
Activity: 448
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could anyone point me to a site where I can see the PSAR? ('cept for bitcoincharts.com)
KS
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Can't argue with you on price ... you got that one spot on  Wink


lol
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bid sum/ask sum = USD/btc
price = USD/btc

does it mean that the sum of all bids is expressed in USD and the sum of all the asks is expressed in BTC?
sorry for noob question
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