Topic: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion - page 33791. (Read 26498634 times)
May 02, 2013, 05:01:43 PM
Too frequent?
May 02, 2013, 04:59:02 PM
Well I am glad I was too busy to be online today. I probably would have wasted an entire day spam refreshing the Mtgox page.
May 02, 2013, 04:45:10 PM
Also, the fee will be a problem in Europe. I've been to the US a few times and know it is normal there for ATMs to charge fees in some places (in NY most ATMs did) . I felt robbed every single time since in Europe I'm used to not pay a fee for withdrawing cash. I think most people won't pay 4%.
This was the case in England for a while too. I can't remember if it was customer pressure or legislation that got it changed. You also have to pay for your checkbooks in the US too.
Checks are in disuse here (I'm not sure if they are even offered still) for at least 15 years. I have never written a check in my life
May 02, 2013, 04:42:28 PM
No data manipulation required. Just the bid/ask sums at each point in time for each price. This provides the x, y, and z matrices it requires.
http://www.mathworks.com/help/matlab/ref/mesh.html
It would just be mesh(bid/ask sums, price, time)
If you have the matrices at least, which should be easy to get.
It's not a matrix though, it's a list of prices and amounts at each point in time. No reason something like Matlab couldn't handle something like that, as mature as it is but I don't know if it does. Overkill for something like this though.
I don't think you are familiar with a matrix but it is basically exactly what you described. Keep mind that an array is just a 1d matrix. Price, amount, time-- that is a 3d matrix.
The data as you described it is exactly what you need for the mesh command.
Overkill?? For this one purpose maybe but a lot of people use matlab all the time and have it for any of there needs(myself included).
May 02, 2013, 04:41:48 PM
Also, the fee will be a problem in Europe. I've been to the US a few times and know it is normal there for ATMs to charge fees in some places (in NY most ATMs did) . I felt robbed every single time since in Europe I'm used to not pay a fee for withdrawing cash. I think most people won't pay 4%.
This was the case in England for a while too. I can't remember if it was customer pressure or legislation that got it changed. You also have to pay for your checkbooks in the US too.
May 02, 2013, 04:36:21 PM
No data manipulation required. Just the bid/ask sums at each point in time for each price. This provides the x, y, and z matrices it requires.
http://www.mathworks.com/help/matlab/ref/mesh.html
It would just be mesh(bid/ask sums, price, time)
If you have the matrices at least, which should be easy to get.
It's not a matrix though, it's a list of prices and amounts at each point in time. No reason something like Matlab couldn't handle something like that, as mature as it is but I don't know if it does. Overkill for something like this though.
May 02, 2013, 04:35:30 PM
I've chatted with Justin and apparently there's multiple way to circumvent the confirmation problem.
One of which is to send your Bitcoin to the (future) BitcoinATM website in advance.
One of which is to send your Bitcoin to the (future) BitcoinATM website in advance.
May 02, 2013, 04:34:52 PM
- 48 hours ago I felt that bitcoin is a buy @140
- It crashed through the 1st fibonacci support of 121
- I no longer felt that it is a buy since I knew it'll go to 95 (the 2nd fib. support)
(snip)
- Now I am happy, bitcoin will cross ATH this month and I make money
- It crashed through the 1st fibonacci support of 121
- I no longer felt that it is a buy since I knew it'll go to 95 (the 2nd fib. support)
(snip)
- Now I am happy, bitcoin will cross ATH this month and I make money
rpietila, out of genuine curiosity and my lack of expertise, how does Fibonacci analysis take into account psychologic factors, like the investment "memory" in picture below (which IMHO looks a lot like the 2011 crash):
What's your take on that?
May 02, 2013, 04:30:56 PM
Bitcoin ATM seems well and truly legit, presentation here:
http://new.livestream.com/accounts/3824848/events/2074798
http://new.livestream.com/accounts/3824848/events/2074798
I watched the whole thing. Why did no-one ask about requiring 1 confirmation? Will anyone that uses an ATM wait 10 minutes on average (and regularly 1 hour) for his money? To me that is the biggest threat to this product. I would add an option to send the Bitcoins in advance (from home), receive a code and get the money when I arrive at the shop/mall.
Also, the fee will be a problem in Europe. I've been to the US a few times and know it is normal there for ATMs to charge fees in some places (in NY most ATMs did) . I felt robbed every single time since in Europe I'm used to not pay a fee for withdrawing cash. I think most people won't pay 4%.
May 02, 2013, 04:27:42 PM
I tough i was going to insert an ask at 107 but i was actually doing a bid, with limit at 107... So, i clicked the wrong button. Buy instead of sell. Guess what?
I started this micro-rally, alone. I brought the price to 105.79986, and now it is next to 108.
Every now and then the chart looks like somebody does that. Doh. I started this micro-rally, alone. I brought the price to 105.79986, and now it is next to 108.
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And i'm no-one.
WTF?
Butterfly? WTF?
May 02, 2013, 04:24:10 PM
Someone mentioned they'd like to see 3d charts a while back so I had a try to see how they'd look. 2 hours ago:
Obviously, it's a work in progress. Thoughts?
Obviously, it's a work in progress. Thoughts?
Nice work, very cool
How big a step would it be to animate this so we could visibly see walls moving in 3D ? That would be ubercool
Dare I say it, but it would be bit like a ripple
It could be done but not really in a way that could be posted as an image in this thread. Maybe as a flash thing or something?
I did some experiments using webgl 4 weeks back. It's a lot of work to get it right. Data collection is one thing: if you want the full depth finer than 12 minutes (magicaltux allows 5 polls of fulldepth per hour) you'll have to incorporate websocket depth message data. It's a lot of data to hold and you want to access different timeframes and resolutions so you need quite the machinery to be able to supply that in a timely manner. As for the visualization itself I have come to the conclusion that I'd definitely want to use height lines (height = amount) as opposed to a fixed x/y grid (x = time, y = price)
here's an example from early april
I dropped the idea for now, too much work to make it good enough.
May 02, 2013, 04:15:48 PM
I think matlab would be 100x easier than any if these options. Just input data as matrices, (time, bid, volume, etc) and graph using mesh command. Make a movie if you want as well.
I think you'd have to rework the data to be able to do a mesh (though Matlab may handle that for all I know).
No data manipulation required. Just the bid/ask sums at each point in time for each price. This provides the x, y, and z matrices it requires.
http://www.mathworks.com/help/matlab/ref/mesh.html
It would just be mesh(bid/ask sums, price, time)
If you have the matrices at least, which should be easy to get.
May 02, 2013, 04:15:15 PM
I think matlab would be 100x easier than any if these options. Just input data as matrices, (time, bid, volume, etc) and graph using mesh command. Make a movie if you want as well.
You'll buy it for me?
I'd probably go gnuplot if I was that way inclined. For a couple of dozen lines of code, not so much worth it.
May 02, 2013, 04:08:58 PM
I still don't understand what is the problem:
- 48 hours ago I felt that bitcoin is a buy @140
- It crashed through the 1st fibonacci support of 121
- I no longer felt that it is a buy since I knew it'll go to 95 (the 2nd fib. support)
- about 22 hours ago, I spent 2 hours telling you this
- Nobody believed me, (and also did not sell me any coinz so I went to sleep)
- It did go to $95, and apart from the following 24 hours, it will never see $95 again for sure (and I can sell puts but you don't have any money to buy)
- I managed to buy BTC200 at $103 even during my dinner
- Now I am happy, bitcoin will cross ATH this month and I make money
- I am going to sleep, how about you trolls?
- 48 hours ago I felt that bitcoin is a buy @140
- It crashed through the 1st fibonacci support of 121
- I no longer felt that it is a buy since I knew it'll go to 95 (the 2nd fib. support)
- about 22 hours ago, I spent 2 hours telling you this
- Nobody believed me, (and also did not sell me any coinz so I went to sleep)
- It did go to $95, and apart from the following 24 hours, it will never see $95 again for sure (and I can sell puts but you don't have any money to buy)
- I managed to buy BTC200 at $103 even during my dinner
- Now I am happy, bitcoin will cross ATH this month and I make money
- I am going to sleep, how about you trolls?
You will loose rest of your hair this night. You will see a much lower numbers than 95$
You are a sockpuppet and ignored. But just for the record, it does not seem to me that we will see $95 again.
Somebody else may think otherwise, and may even be right. But I doubt many of you actually make money in the long run, it seems that you are just confused sorry trolls. My position increased today, I sold some gold to buy bitcoins. Did not post so much, since I felt this was a day when I could make more money by actually working (ie. getting my gold to the salesman and buying bitcoins).
When we go to $120, I will have more time to post since I do not need to trade. At $133 I probably go speculative short.
May 02, 2013, 04:08:19 PM
May 02, 2013, 04:06:45 PM
May 02, 2013, 04:05:20 PM
Rally time!
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May 02, 2013, 04:05:00 PM
I still don't understand what is the problem:
- 48 hours ago I felt that bitcoin is a buy @140
- It crashed through the 1st fibonacci support of 121
- I no longer felt that it is a buy since I knew it'll go to 95 (the 2nd fib. support)
- about 22 hours ago, I spent 2 hours telling you this
- Nobody believed me, (and also did not sell me any coinz so I went to sleep)
- It did go to $95, and apart from the following 24 hours, it will never see $95 again for sure (and I can sell puts but you don't have any money to buy)
- I managed to buy BTC200 at $103 even during my dinner
- Now I am happy, bitcoin will cross ATH this month and I make money
- I am going to sleep, how about you trolls?
- 48 hours ago I felt that bitcoin is a buy @140
- It crashed through the 1st fibonacci support of 121
- I no longer felt that it is a buy since I knew it'll go to 95 (the 2nd fib. support)
- about 22 hours ago, I spent 2 hours telling you this
- Nobody believed me, (and also did not sell me any coinz so I went to sleep)
- It did go to $95, and apart from the following 24 hours, it will never see $95 again for sure (and I can sell puts but you don't have any money to buy)
- I managed to buy BTC200 at $103 even during my dinner
- Now I am happy, bitcoin will cross ATH this month and I make money
- I am going to sleep, how about you trolls?
You will loose rest of your hair this night. You will see a much lower numbers than 95$
I am guessing that we won't, not unless the price bounces quite a bit higher. We had some major buys, some of them fishy, it may be Mr. M has been buying his coins back. Someone bought that latest 3.5k up to 112, and the only one I think would be confident enough in the current market to do that, is the one in control. He will want to see the price rise now for a while.
May 02, 2013, 04:04:36 PM
I think matlab would be 100x easier than any if these options. Just input data as matrices, (time, bid, volume, etc) and graph using mesh command. Make a movie if you want as well.
I think you'd have to rework the data to be able to do a mesh (though Matlab may handle that for all I know).
May 02, 2013, 04:02:21 PM
Wow, messy...
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