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This flat sideways movement feels a bit like the sideway movement after the dump Dec. 2018.

Back then, we went sideways over 3.5 months.  ...If we were to repeat that, we won't go up until Sep.


In 2015 it was relatively flat almost 8 months, which would lead us to Jan. 2023.  Roll Eyes   .... gaaawd...

But I doubt we have a bear market sideways that long.  Too much going on macro-wise.


Anyways brace for it  ...it could be a very boring Bitcoin summer...   Grin

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WTF?

Go to this link and dare him to visit WO

https://twitter.com/coinbureau/status/1532965035844194304?



Why? He's not welcome here. I mean cmon the guy is referring to Bitcoin Fear & Greed index as #crypto. This is ridiculous!  Cool

That's because it's called the Crypto Fear & Greed Index. Ideally there would be a Bitcoin one though.



Source: https://alternative.me/crypto/fear-and-greed-index/

(For some reason this account has appropriated it as a Bitcoin index, not sure why)
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If you're not planning to hold Bitcoin for four years, you're not really an investor.

Source: https://twitter.com/BitcoinMagazine/status/1533424473042452481
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Inflation is the most unfair of the taxes. It's regressive, it huts lower income the most, as they have larger portions of their expenses exposed to rise in prices.
Richer people have probably less impact, as they can consume less of their disposable income, and invest the difference in (sort of) inflation-resistant assets.

This is a disgrace for the 80 million in Turkey, caused by the few tenths at the steering wheel.
Bitcoin fixes that.


Sir, I am damn sure about this that this assets problem will be fixed soon as you know the solution is already here but for now, world leaders are unable to accept it but due to public pressure they need to accept sooner or later and it will be accepted as now everyone is considering it. Its BTC and WEB 3 with public contol.

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Jeez, hasn’t poor mindrust suffered enough already?



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NEW: Turkey's annual inflation soars to 73.5% in May, highest since 1998.

Ever hear about #Bitcoin  , Mr. President?
https://twitter.com/laman_nft3/status/1533024680629751810?s=21

🇹🇷

Inflation is the most unfair of the taxes. It's regressive, it huts lower income the most, as they have larger portions of their expenses exposed to rise in prices.
Richer people have probably less impact, as they can consume less of their disposable income, and invest the difference in (sort of) inflation resistant assets.

This is a disgrace for the 80 million in Turkey, caused by the few tenths at the steering wheel.
Bitcoin fixes that.
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I wish I liked Svetski.

The whole Bitcoin purity, gatekeeper, boys club thing is old to me.  It's possible to not be scammer like Raoul Pal or the rest and still hold nuanced opinions...

Maybe im just a fuddy dud.

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WTF?

Go to this link and dare him to visit WO

https://twitter.com/coinbureau/status/1532965035844194304?



Why? He's not welcome here. I mean cmon the guy is referring to Bitcoin Fear & Greed index as #crypto. This is ridiculous!  Cool
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Saylor got in very late, the Bitcoin party started long ago while he was busy playing the public critics role against Bitcoin most other figures in the Bitcoin community were busy accumulating more, now the music has changed and Saylor wants to join the party by all means. Anyways he is welcome on the list he can still fill some bags just left over anyway. The best pizza was served long ago.

You talk like a nocoiner poseur, putting on airs of Bitcoin pretenses while giving underhanded insults to Bitcoin.
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My personal Fear and Greed index is wired the opposite of most people’s.

When Bitcoin is up, I am afraid—because I don’t have enough BTC.  Well, too much is never enough—but I really, really do not have enough.  Thus, the more that BTC rises, the worse my fear that I may never have a decently-sized holding.

When Bitcoin crashes, I get greedy!  Bear markets get me greedy for cheap coins.  Sometimes, too greedy.  I started messing with margin in January—right when the mass-media chatter turned from “uncertain market” to “bear market, everyone afraid, Bitcoin is dead!”
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With the internal quotation changed to something that you snipped from that post, to demonstrate a point:

POS and the “too much energy” organized propaganda campaign are political and economic attacks for the benefit of those who don’t want you to “Be Your Own Bank”.

Sen Cruz is right on that, don't be cocky and think that it is all hunky-dory. It is not.

I have spent the past few days shouting from the rooftops that Bitcoin is under existential threat.  I warned about attacks on Bitcoin in large-size bold letters, in the post to which you replied.  And I recently transcribed here in WO a part of Cruz’s speech comparing Bitcoin to Napster—warning Bitcoiners not to be naïve.

I’m “cocky”?  I think that “it is all hunky-dory”?

If you don’t read, don’t write a reply to what you didn’t read.
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@saylor, thank you for speaking out about this.  It is now an issue of grave import and great urgence.

I really start to think that Saylor reads the WO...

Saylor runs a business intelligence (BI) company that specializes in analytics and data mining to guide strategic business decisions.  Although I don’t know anything about MicroStrategy’s internal operations, I’d wager that Saylor probably has operations to monitor Internet chatter about MicroStrategy’s cash reserve asset:  Bitcoin.  National intelligence agencies would call that “OSINT”.

This is not to start some rumour or grandiose conspiracy theory, but to the contrary.  I’m pointing out that even if the instances you cite are not all coincidental—a big “if”!—even if Saylor picked that latest theme up from my WO posts, it doesn’t necessarily mean that Saylor himself saw anything here, much less that he regularly reads WO.  For billionaires who run business intelligence services to get reports about interesting points raised in public discussions would seem quite mundane to me.

I’ll also go out on a limb here, and guess that maybe Saylor and his BI company noticed the POS issue all by themselves.  POS has been growing like an invasive weed strangling the whole “crypto” world.  For those who don’t live in a Bitcoin echo chamber, it is lamentably impossible to miss being assaulted with explicitly anti-Bitcoin POS propaganda.  Not to mention that Saylor is American; he may have noticed that the Biden administration dislikes POW.

We were just talking about POS yesterday. Today he tweets:


PoW is money. PoS is credit.

https://twitter.com/saylor/status/1533072638268035074?cxt=HHwWhMCyraTcyMYqAAAA

Jay, please don’t feel bad if I deem you overruled by Saylor.  Wink  This is now fully on-topic in WO:

[ANN] POS is Fork Wars 2.0

[...political news...]

This is a part of an organized, large-scale social, economic, and political attack being built against Bitcoin.  The overarching goal:  Make Bitcoin go POS.

Since Bitcoin survived the Fork Wars, this is the next iteration of an attempt to usurp Bitcoin.  To corrupt it.  To turn it into a tame market-circus animal in the service of big banks and VCs.

That said, I am strategically moving most of my approach to this out of WO.  Most of it.  I will probably still post about that here sometimes.

I wouldn't be surprised if he already has an account...

Please don’t incite the wannabe sleuths around here to start guessing which account is his.

On the other hand, it is an awful coincidence that I started sounding the alarm here in WO about POS being a serious threat to Bitcoin—and then Saylor tweeted about it.  By wannabe-sleuth standards, that amounts to proof that I am Saylor’s super-secret Bitcoin Forum account! Shocked
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In my humble opinion, it all comes down to the link between energy and value, complex and inexplicable as it may be. Energy may or may not create value, but value requires energy. There is no "free lunch" in this universe.

This is one of those complex, philosophical topics where the answer is "Yes, but..."

Yes to what you stated above.

But...there are so many "things" in this world today that took a lot of energy and manpower to create (and thus had high value when first created), but their value has now fallen to near zero because humans no longer value them. They don't just retain their value long term because they had a high energy input.

This could happen to any "thing" created, because value is also subjective and is applied to "things" by the emotions of human beings.

What you're saying is true. Energy is a necessary but not sufficient condition for something to have value. You could pour a lot of energy into creating something very valuable, and it could then lose its value in the future, or energy could be wasted straight away (like the 10: GOTO 10 code example). In the first case, one could argue that the object's raw value hasn't actually been lost, but rather, it is not recognized or appreciated by society anymore (and hence could rise up again). On the other hand, energy is almost always needed in order to create something of value. Even in the case of the 10: GOTO 10 code example, if the computer executing the code warms up the home of a poor family, this pointless piece of code would be very valuable to them, equally valuable to any piece of code!

In the end, perhaps everything comes down to converting energy from one form to another. What matters is that the product of this conversion solves a problem, and if it does, the product becomes valuable.
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