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Bitcoin will "fall" below $400,000 next.








legendary
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you can do all the TA you want but we are still in the 28-69 k slot and have yet to leave it since dec 2020

We won't leave it until August or later.

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'The right to privacy matters'
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Still have tax due in a few days...

How does the US tax system work? Does a business pay at the start of the new year, and citizens pay in April?

You can file to extend documentation to October, if you want, as long as you paid 100% in April.
Corp: by the 15th day of the third month following the tax year (March 15 for calendar year).
LLCs-flowthrough to individual tax if single member, then there are franchise taxes (TX-in May).
Last year I had to pay a bit, then they hammered me with high estimated payments and now it looks like I overpaid.
Impossible to get it right (either you have paid too much or too little almost every time).

I have decided to pay too much on purpose every year since I got into BTC.  No worries that way.

I filed my 2020 taxes in Oct 2021 with a six month extension from April 2021.

They are yet to refund me 4292 + juice say 4400 last year my fed refund came in June of 2021.  This year it may come later say July.

But I do paper returns to deliberately slow everything down. If I had done online return in Oct I would have been paid around Dec 2021. They pay high interest rates than a bank does so I am hoping they refund me in August or Sept.  Grin


Oh I did file extensions for state and fed.  So I do not file until Oct 2022 for 2021. I also paid estimated tax for 1st quarter.  With btc and other mining my business I can roll profits into gear and pretty much write my own ticket as to what I report as profit.

Last year I added a lot of gear to offset taxes.

And to the WO. you can do all the TA you want but we are still in the 28-69 k slot and have yet to leave it since dec 2020

We won't leave it until August or later.
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Cлaвa Укpaїнi!
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... then you might want to sell enough to fulfill your tax obligation (at least for estimated taxes) that come mid January.

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So miners/traders get an estimated bill/obligation in mid January?

They don't have to, but if they don't, then there is a penalty later on.
The obligation is self-calculated, nobody sends you a bill (in US), not initially.
Brokerages send a 1099 form that depicts P/L, but this is only for stocks, options, etc.
They tried to send those for bitcoin/crypto (i think Coinbase did it at some point), but reneged after much outcry (they were calling sending out btc from an exchange a 'sell").
My understanding that they do send such tax due bill in other countries.
overall, taxes in US are INSANELY complex.
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... then you might want to sell enough to fulfill your tax obligation (at least for estimated taxes) that come mid January.

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So miners/traders get an estimated bill/obligation in mid January?
legendary
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...

Still have tax due in a few days...

How does the US tax system work? Does a business pay at the start of the new year, and citizens pay in April?

You can file to extend documentation to October, if you want, as long as you paid 100% in April.
Corp: by the 15th day of the third month following the tax year (March 15 for calendar year).
LLCs-flowthrough to individual tax if single member, then there are franchise taxes (TX-in May).
Last year I had to pay a bit, then they hammered me with high estimated payments and now it looks like I overpaid.
Impossible to get it right (either you have paid too much or too little almost every time).

I seem to remember people blaming early January bitcoin dumps on miners/traders having to sell to pay US taxes. Is that bullshit?

Not entirely because if you made sweet gains or mined lots of btc, especially at higher prices by the end of the year (as it happens frequently), then you might want to sell enough to fulfill your tax obligation (at least for estimated taxes) that come mid January. If you had a large realized gain (or income), but carried all of it to April, you would incur penalties and/or be unable to pay the tax at all. Example: gained $100 in Dec, need to pay $25 in April, but your btc declined to $20. You are out of luck: have to pay, but funds are insufficient.
legendary
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My takeaway, FTA: "all signs point to the vaccinated bearing the brunt of repeat Covid infections and the immune deficits"

Isn't the COVID over? It is in most peoples minds, even so it is not fully true.


... acquired immunodeficiency doesn't really work like that ... it's not over until people stop getting sick ... from genetically-engineered virus or genetically-engineered mandated jabs ...

... you've really become a despicable apologist for some very greedy, very powerful and abusive people ... imho.

apologist? i have no connection to any of the companies or the people involved.
I did not even invest in vax companies as moderna had a huge market cap even beforehand (now it is positively obsene).
I just note that waxing about problems (like that dude in your quote) does not seem to correlate with reality (the number of the sick and the dead).

Heck, maybe COVID antibodies make all those vaxxed reluctant to invest in bitcoin? As good a hypothesis as any because I fail to understand why the masses still DO NOT do it truly en masse.
legendary
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...

Still have tax due in a few days...

How does the US tax system work? Does a business pay at the start of the new year, and citizens pay in April?

You can file to extend documentation to October, if you want, as long as you paid 100% in April.
Corp: by the 15th day of the third month following the tax year (March 15 for calendar year).
LLCs-flowthrough to individual tax if single member, then there are franchise taxes (TX-in May).
Last year I had to pay a bit, then they hammered me with high estimated payments and now it looks like I overpaid.
Impossible to get it right (either you have paid too much or too little almost every time).

I seem to remember people blaming early January bitcoin dumps on miners/traders having to sell to pay US taxes. Is that bullshit?
legendary
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Eadem mutata resurgo


My takeaway, FTA: "all signs point to the vaccinated bearing the brunt of repeat Covid infections and the immune deficits"

Isn't the COVID over? It is in most peoples minds, even so it is not fully true.


... acquired immunodeficiency doesn't really work like that ... it's not over until people stop getting sick ... from genetically-engineered virus or genetically-engineered mandated jabs ...

... you've really become a despicable apologist for some very greedy, very powerful and abusive people ... imho.
legendary
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Eadem mutata resurgo
https://mobile.reuters.com/article/amp/idUSL1N2UM1C7

TL; DR: Fact Check-‘VAIDS’ is not a real vaccine-induced syndrome, experts say; no evidence COVID-19 vaccines cause immunodeficiency

https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-d&gbv=1&q=Who+is+on+the+board+of+Pfizer+and+Reuters%3F&oq=&aqs=
Google "Who is on the board of Reuters and Pfizer?"

Quote
Albert Bourla Chairman of the Board, Chief Executive Officer

Frank A. D'amelio Chief Financial Officer, Executive Vice President

Angela Hwang Group President - Pfizer Biopharmaceuticals Group

Lidia Fonseca Executive Vice President, Chief Digital and Technology Officer
legendary
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Still have tax due in a few days...

How does the US tax system work? Does a business pay at the start of the new year, and citizens pay in April?

 Most citizens have their taxes taken at source every pay period.  The fortunate few who make money "investing" will have to cough up some more tax money by the deadline or face interest and penalties on any amount owing.  Ditto for the unfortunate many who have second jobs and/or side gigs which don't extract enough tax-at-source because they haven't included the income from your other job(s) in their calculations.
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legendary
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...

Still have tax due in a few days...

How does the US tax system work? Does a business pay at the start of the new year, and citizens pay in April?

You can file to extend documentation to October, if you want, as long as you paid 100% in April.
Corp: by the 15th day of the third month following the tax year (March 15 for calendar year).
LLCs-flowthrough to individual tax if single member, then there are franchise taxes (TX-in May).
Last year I had to pay a bit, then they hammered me with high estimated payments and now it looks like I overpaid.
Impossible to get it right (either you have paid too much or too little almost every time).
legendary
Activity: 2772
Merit: 2846
...

Still have tax due in a few days...

How does the US tax system work? Does a business pay at the start of the new year, and citizens pay in April?
legendary
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Hello there.



"Who’s your money on?"
On you and BLB?  Cool

Not gonna happen. It's beyond the scope of any rationality for me to blow my entire stack at this point.

I still purpose-sell when needed for major projects, or other reinvestments, but... yeah.

Bet on someone else.

I'm too heavily invested into corn to pull a Mindrust.

I'll ride corn down to absolute $0.0 USD.

What to know why?

Because I'll be buying all that shit up before it hits $0.0 USD.

Ya dig?

Actually seriously considering liquidating a fiat portfolio to buy more corn if it hangs below $39k for much longer. Still have tax due in a few days; and have some left-over dues, so... I'm tapped out of reasonable extra liquidity entirely for at least the rest of the week.
legendary
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Let's get back to our roots -- wall observing. The order books are signaling more bitcoin wanting to be safe USD than I've seen in a long time. Looks like we're gearing up for a spectacular drop.

Have you considered dumping your thousands of bitcoins, then buying more back cheaper like you did in 2012?

I've got > 2000 and < 5000.  Last year when I started I remember thinking "I hope one day to have 200".  On then on the way down from $32 I kept scooping them up with my biggest haul coming in at $2.4x after the last $2.00 bounce.

Math and science.

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