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legendary
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I don’t like seeing the market going down but this mtgox thing has been what everyone has been saying would drop the market for years. It isn’t crazy to think we’ll drop a little here. Still, I don’t like seeing the price go down. Maybe the devs can do something? Just kidding. More seriously, has anyone tried spitting on it?

everyone = OgNasty

FTFY

Nah, I can’t take credit for stating the obvious. For years people have been watching that BTC. Blackrock has built a multi-billion dollar short position. The market has dropped $13K, which is a massive slash off the market cap just on the news. I actually don’t think there has ever been a period in history where Bitcoin has had such a large total market short position. While this is bearish short term, long term those shorts will have to be covered eventually. That means future demand. Make no mistake about it though, the big boys have bet billions on the mtgox distribution and so far they’re rolling in profits.

Where is a proof of that?...pure hearsay..based on some crypto twitter noise?
The company cannot short it's own ETF-it is called self-dealing and is, ostensibly, illegal. Some associated funds can, of course.

Edit: A quick read about their own ETF shows Blackrock can effectively short any investor purchases of their fund for 48 hours on a rolling basis due to their settlement agreement with Coinbase. While this isn’t billions, it shows just one way they can easily short the market using their own ETF.

That's not shorting in a common meaning of the term, more like market-making
..if someone buys, then someone has to sell and if there is no investor currently selling, then to smooth the market, market maker sells from their inventory or otherwise so a buyer can buy.

Whatever you say buddy. That isn’t even how they would short the market, I was just proving your statement wrong. What evidence do you have that Blackrock didn’t go short when they discovered that billions of dollars in Bitcoin was going to hit the market?

I hate that I have to be the bearish guy because I’m as bullish as they come, but ignoring all the evidence of what’s happening is just weird. If mtgox wasn’t an issue, we wouldn’t be watching the price fall. It’s ok to admit you’re wrong.

Really...bullish? I keep hearing about mtgox from you the last month or two on a regular basis.
donator
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Merit: 4323
Leading Crypto Sports Betting & Casino Platform
I don’t like seeing the market going down but this mtgox thing has been what everyone has been saying would drop the market for years. It isn’t crazy to think we’ll drop a little here. Still, I don’t like seeing the price go down. Maybe the devs can do something? Just kidding. More seriously, has anyone tried spitting on it?

everyone = OgNasty

FTFY

Nah, I can’t take credit for stating the obvious. For years people have been watching that BTC. Blackrock has built a multi-billion dollar short position. The market has dropped $13K, which is a massive slash off the market cap just on the news. I actually don’t think there has ever been a period in history where Bitcoin has had such a large total market short position. While this is bearish short term, long term those shorts will have to be covered eventually. That means future demand. Make no mistake about it though, the big boys have bet billions on the mtgox distribution and so far they’re rolling in profits.

Where is a proof of that?...pure hearsay..based on some crypto twitter noise?
The company cannot short it's own ETF-it is called self-dealing and is, ostensibly, illegal. Some associated funds can, of course.

Edit: A quick read about their own ETF shows Blackrock can effectively short any investor purchases of their fund for 48 hours on a rolling basis due to their settlement agreement with Coinbase. While this isn’t billions, it shows just one way they can easily short the market using their own ETF.

That's not shorting in a common meaning of the term, more like market-making
..if someone buys, then someone has to sell and if there is no investor currently selling, then to smooth the market, market maker sells from their inventory or otherwise so a buyer can buy.

Whatever you say buddy. That isn’t even how they would short the market, I was just proving your statement wrong. What evidence do you have that Blackrock didn’t go short when they discovered that billions of dollars in Bitcoin was going to hit the market?

I hate that I have to be the bearish guy because I’m as bullish as they come, but ignoring all the evidence of what’s happening is just weird. If mtgox wasn’t an issue, we wouldn’t be watching the price fall. It’s ok to admit you’re wrong.
legendary
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legendary
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$120000 in 2024 Confirmed
O/T

Beverly Hills Cop: Axel F

F for Fucking awful.

1 / 10

Worse than 3, if that was even possible.
Low energy. Boring, no agency or making you care about anything. No stakes.

Some of these Netflix movies really seem amateurish somehow.
It doesn't matter how much money is thrown at it, who stars in it or who does the music.
It all seems terrible. Even B movies from (indeed) the 80s are more enjoyable.

Should have left it with 2, and especially after 3 never made a comeback. They waited far too late anyway.

It's astonishing Hollywood is so lost most of the times these days.
All these 80s franchises have been destroyed with the latest instalments:
Ghostbusters, Beverly Hills Cop, Indiana Jones, Evil Dead, Terminator, Bill & Ted

The "ingredients" are all there: the same actors, the massive budget, effects, etc.
But they all lack a story you care about. They are all convoluted and just bloody annoying.

RIP.


Yeah  what a sad bag of shit
legendary
Activity: 1526
Merit: 2617
O/T

Beverly Hills Cop: Axel F

F for Fucking awful.

1 / 10

Worse than 3, if that was even possible.
Low energy. Boring, no agency or making you care about anything. No stakes.
Eddie Murphy phones it in. He's just too old now. It reminded me of Harrison Ford in Indy 5.
You sort of recognise them but something seems off. They just waited too long with some of these sequels.

This and many other Netflix movies really seem amateurish somehow.
It doesn't matter how much money is thrown at it, who stars in it or who does the music.
It all seems terrible and doesn't reach basic cinema quality.

Should have left it with 2 Beverly Hills Cop movies, and especially after 3 never made a comeback.

It's astonishing Hollywood is so lost most of the times these days.
All these 80s franchises have been destroyed with the latest instalments:
Ghostbusters, Beverly Hills Cop, Indiana Jones, Evil Dead, Terminator, Bill & Ted

The "ingredients" are all there: the same actors, the massive budget, effects, etc.
But they all lack a story you care about. They are all convoluted and just bloody annoying.

RIP.
legendary
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legendary
Activity: 2352
Merit: 1819
1CBuddyxy4FerT3hzMmi1Jz48ESzRw1ZzZ

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legendary
Activity: 3892
Merit: 4331
I don’t like seeing the market going down but this mtgox thing has been what everyone has been saying would drop the market for years. It isn’t crazy to think we’ll drop a little here. Still, I don’t like seeing the price go down. Maybe the devs can do something? Just kidding. More seriously, has anyone tried spitting on it?

everyone = OgNasty

FTFY

Nah, I can’t take credit for stating the obvious. For years people have been watching that BTC. Blackrock has built a multi-billion dollar short position. The market has dropped $13K, which is a massive slash off the market cap just on the news. I actually don’t think there has ever been a period in history where Bitcoin has had such a large total market short position. While this is bearish short term, long term those shorts will have to be covered eventually. That means future demand. Make no mistake about it though, the big boys have bet billions on the mtgox distribution and so far they’re rolling in profits.

Where is a proof of that?...pure hearsay..based on some crypto twitter noise?
The company cannot short it's own ETF-it is called self-dealing and is, ostensibly, illegal. Some associated funds can, of course.

Edit: A quick read about their own ETF shows Blackrock can effectively short any investor purchases of their fund for 48 hours on a rolling basis due to their settlement agreement with Coinbase. While this isn’t billions, it shows just one way they can easily short the market using their own ETF.

That's not shorting in a common meaning of the term, more like market-making
..if someone buys, then someone has to sell and if there is no investor currently selling, then to smooth the market, market maker sells from their inventory or otherwise so a buyer can buy.
legendary
Activity: 2352
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donator
Activity: 4760
Merit: 4323
Leading Crypto Sports Betting & Casino Platform
I don’t like seeing the market going down but this mtgox thing has been what everyone has been saying would drop the market for years. It isn’t crazy to think we’ll drop a little here. Still, I don’t like seeing the price go down. Maybe the devs can do something? Just kidding. More seriously, has anyone tried spitting on it?

everyone = OgNasty

FTFY

Nah, I can’t take credit for stating the obvious. For years people have been watching that BTC. Blackrock has built a multi-billion dollar short position. The market has dropped $13K, which is a massive slash off the market cap just on the news. I actually don’t think there has ever been a period in history where Bitcoin has had such a large total market short position. While this is bearish short term, long term those shorts will have to be covered eventually. That means future demand. Make no mistake about it though, the big boys have bet billions on the mtgox distribution and so far they’re rolling in profits.

Where is a proof of that?...pure hearsay..based on some crypto twitter noise?
The company cannot short it's own ETF-it is called self-dealing and is, ostensibly, illegal. Some associated funds can, of course.

I haven’t researched “the proof” but since it is constantly mentioned in different articles and all other ETFs have experienced drawdowns except for Blackrock’s, I think people have at the very least been connecting the dots. If you want me to cite some filing of their holdings though, I would have to leave that to someone else who is more familiar with disclosure rules.

Edit: A quick read about their own ETF shows Blackrock can effectively short any investor purchases of their fund for 48 hours on a rolling basis due to their settlement agreement with Coinbase. While this isn’t billions, it shows just one way they can easily short the market using their own ETF.
legendary
Activity: 3892
Merit: 4331
I don’t like seeing the market going down but this mtgox thing has been what everyone has been saying would drop the market for years. It isn’t crazy to think we’ll drop a little here. Still, I don’t like seeing the price go down. Maybe the devs can do something? Just kidding. More seriously, has anyone tried spitting on it?

everyone = OgNasty

FTFY

Nah, I can’t take credit for stating the obvious. For years people have been watching that BTC. Blackrock has built a multi-billion dollar short position. The market has dropped $13K, which is a massive slash off the market cap just on the news. I actually don’t think there has ever been a period in history where Bitcoin has had such a large total market short position. While this is bearish short term, long term those shorts will have to be covered eventually. That means future demand. Make no mistake about it though, the big boys have bet billions on the mtgox distribution and so far they’re rolling in profits.

Where is a proof of that?...pure hearsay..based on some crypto twitter noise?
The company cannot short it's own ETF-it is called self-dealing and is, ostensibly, illegal. Some associated funds can, of course.
donator
Activity: 4760
Merit: 4323
Leading Crypto Sports Betting & Casino Platform
I don’t like seeing the market going down but this mtgox thing has been what everyone has been saying would drop the market for years. It isn’t crazy to think we’ll drop a little here. Still, I don’t like seeing the price go down. Maybe the devs can do something? Just kidding. More seriously, has anyone tried spitting on it?

everyone = OgNasty

FTFY

Nah, I can’t take credit for stating the obvious. For years people have been watching that BTC. Blackrock has built a multi-billion dollar short position. The market has dropped $13K, which is a massive slash off the market cap just on the news. I actually don’t think there has ever been a period in history where Bitcoin has had such a large total market short position. While this is bearish short term, long term those shorts will have to be covered eventually. That means future demand. Make no mistake about it though, the big boys have bet billions on the mtgox distribution and so far they’re rolling in profits.
legendary
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'The right to privacy matters'
I for one would like to thank Germany and Mt. Gox for giving us this sale. Not exactly a fire sale, (as it would have been during Bitcoin's early low market cap days) but it is a decent buy-Bitcoin-get-18%-off deal nonetheless, since the price would have been over 70K without their 'help'.

I am thinking we should write them thank you letters.

Yeah I got some cheap corn today 59k
legendary
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legendary
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A Bitcoiner chooses. A slave obeys.
I for one would like to thank Germany and Mt. Gox for giving us this sale. Not exactly a fire sale, (as it would have been during Bitcoin's early low market cap days) but it is a decent buy-Bitcoin-get-18%-off deal nonetheless, since the price would have been over 70K without their 'help'.

I am thinking we should write them thank you letters.
legendary
Activity: 3836
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Doomed to see the future and unable to prevent it
Meh, Just enjoy the summer and wait for Gox , Us and Germany's coins to get absorbed.

I haven't played golf since I broke my back and Pelvis so I think that's what I'll start doing again this summer.
legendary
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hero member
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bitcoin retard
Either this is close to the bottom or this is bears' preparation for their last big attack before the cycle top.

gox coins are coming in (probably) July. The lower bears can get it before that, the deeper the gox dip can go if there is any.. I think max pain would be under 40k, even if it's just for a moment.
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How many times can we survive this re-testing of $60,000. As OgNasty said, can devs do something Cheesy
Seriously I’m getting impatient, man. Price has been doing nothing for months and now seems like it wants to break down.

I’ll never understand the market psychology with some Bitcoin holders. You have to have a 65 IQ to be selling at this point in an epoch.

Usually when I start to get impatient and pissed off, it means a bottom is near. Bears are getting too complacent, hopefully they get REKT soon and we get a God Candle, it’s been far too long since the market was bullish. This thread is a graveyard, everybody going through the motions, the price has sucked the joy out of everybody, including me.

Come on Bitcoin, do something…….



I feel you. But I think we are going to have a boring summer. Sideways.
It’s hard. But time goes fast. And sooner than later bears are getting rekt, big time.

We just have to spend time doing other stuff until then.
legendary
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