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legendary
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'The right to privacy matters'
The Fud on gold is fear of Asteroid mining.

Long term gold will be 10x to 100 more accessible than it is now.
The Earth's core is closer by:
Why else is Musk Bezos and Branson in space?
It's a pissing contest for rich tax avoiders.

Except the core may not be so stable to tap.
legendary
Activity: 4326
Merit: 8950
'The right to privacy matters'
Enlighten me: why has the gold price been dropping in the past year?
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From my (limited) understanding of economics, I'd expect gold to go up when (the fear of) inflation kicks in. But instead, it stopped going up the moment the inflation went up. Is this "normal"? Or could it have to be with Bitcoin taking over part of gold's safe haven position?

The Fud on gold is fear of Asteroid mining.

Long term gold will be 10x to 100 more accessible than it is now.

Why else is Musk Bezos and Branson in space?

I don't believe that is true, Musk and Bezos going to space to open a gold mine. Space mining for Rare Earth Metals and Minerials, will mean it is no longer rare and no longer valuable. I can see mining Rare Space Metals/Mineral (what every that would be, or could be... i think the periodic table has most elements discovered)

Nevertheless, i don't see space mining as a threat as the investment needed will never be recoup.

EDIT: Yes, there is massive amounts of GOLD in space... MASSIVE!!...


Long term (100+ years)  if the human race is to survive we will be mining gold and other metals.

It is possible to drop a large rock of gold onto the moon.  Since gravity is 1/6 that of earth and no friction to burn the rock of gold.

The key is if a magnetic  force field style elevator  moon to earth and earth to moon is buildable. Simple place a rock of gold in the steel case that magnetic force raises and lowers back and forth to the moon and earth.

Whether this is buildable I do not know.

But the logistics of getting asteroid gold to earth should be solved it it is possible.
Thus the idea that gold is a true long term storage of wealth is not as good as it was in say 2000 or 1990.

Study how aluminum dropped 95% or more once a method to refine it was found. We know are certain the asteroids are loaded with gold. Gold still is a great metal to do electrical work but it may end up being far far far more common than it is today.

If you are a long term company holding 10 billion $$ in gold and 0 $$  in BTC is starting to  look dumb.
legendary
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Thick-Skinned Gang Leader and Golden Feather 2021
The Fud on gold is fear of Asteroid mining.

Long term gold will be 10x to 100 more accessible than it is now.
The Earth's core is closer by:
Why else is Musk Bezos and Branson in space?
It's a pissing contest for rich tax avoiders.
hero member
Activity: 756
Merit: 1843
Morning!

So, I bought some BTC today for the first time since 2014.

I decided to do a little experiment, I was offered a loan from a company (Qliro) and accepted, I borrowed 20 000:- (about 2300 USD), I set aside four months worth of payments on the loan (this will be used to pay of the loan for the coming four months) and bought btc for the rest (17500:- (about 2000 USD)) and I put those btc in a separate wallet.

Now I'm going to sell these btc in December when we go skyrocketing and the little experiment here is to see how much money I will make on this.
The plan is of course to repay the loan in full in December and do something fun with the profit.
I have been offered to up the loan with another 50 000:-, I might do that, still thinking about it.

So, as you can see the whole point is to make money without having to put in any of my own.


I did accept the offer to up the loan with 50 000, the money should be in my account on Monday, I will move it to another bank and do this buy from another broker, the brokers I use take about 10% commission, so my firs goal will be to reach break even.

Update on my loan experiment.
I have now reached break even.

10% commission? To buy Bitcoin?
legendary
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Cлaвa Укpaїнi!
Morning!

So, I bought some BTC today for the first time since 2014.

I decided to do a little experiment, I was offered a loan from a company (Qliro) and accepted, I borrowed 20 000:- (about 2300 USD), I set aside four months worth of payments on the loan (this will be used to pay of the loan for the coming four months) and bought btc for the rest (17500:- (about 2000 USD)) and I put those btc in a separate wallet.

Now I'm going to sell these btc in December when we go skyrocketing and the little experiment here is to see how much money I will make on this.
The plan is of course to repay the loan in full in December and do something fun with the profit.
I have been offered to up the loan with another 50 000:-, I might do that, still thinking about it.

So, as you can see the whole point is to make money without having to put in any of my own.


I did accept the offer to up the loan with 50 000, the money should be in my account on Monday, I will move it to another bank and do this buy from another broker, the brokers I use take about 10% commission, so my firs goal will be to reach break even.

Update on my loan experiment.
I have now reached break even.
legendary
Activity: 3808
Merit: 7912
Translated from german, OT:
Quote from: austrian news site
EU is working on the “master key” for social networks

At the meeting of interior and justice ministers in Luxembourg, which ended on Friday, the start of an EU regulation against secure encryption in social networks was quietly and secretly set. Commissioner Ylva Johansson had such a regulation
(Interior department) already announced in spring.

It was discussed how WhatsApp and Co. should be obliged to compromise their end-to-end encryption (E2E) with master keys and to transfer chats in plain text to the prosecutors. According to Johansson, this is necessary to track child abuse online. The subject was not mentioned in the press release after the ministerial meeting.

Few things get me angry, but this one is exceptionally hard to swallow.
I don't use facefook and whatsCrap, tho.

EDIT: How about "democracy abuse", this would probably get most of these fuckers into jail.

Never irrelevant



Flavour of the year modification.

legendary
Activity: 3766
Merit: 5146
Note the unconventional cAPITALIZATION!

She's really pretty good at the cartoons.  But that particular one is a masterpiece, though the slice of people who understand it almost as small as the number of folks that know all the memes crammed into it.
legendary
Activity: 3766
Merit: 5146
Note the unconventional cAPITALIZATION!
there for you have keep 49,752SATS extra on the bfx-lnd1 channel.

Aha! That was the missing link to my understanding. Thanks.

EG: Cranked the fees on my LOOP channel, and getting retarded fees.

Does this mean I'm winning?



I think so.

But one possible buzzkill.  I am pretty sure RTL shows fees as millisats.  In other words 243600 is 243.6 satoshis.
legendary
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legendary
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We choose to go to the moon
legendary
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精神分析的爸
Translated from german, OT:
Quote from: austrian news site
EU is working on the “master key” for social networks

At the meeting of interior and justice ministers in Luxembourg, which ended on Friday, the start of an EU regulation against secure encryption in social networks was quietly and secretly set. Commissioner Ylva Johansson had such a regulation
(Interior department) already announced in spring.

It was discussed how WhatsApp and Co. should be obliged to compromise their end-to-end encryption (E2E) with master keys and to transfer chats in plain text to the prosecutors. According to Johansson, this is necessary to track child abuse online. The subject was not mentioned in the press release after the ministerial meeting.

Few things get me angry, but this one is exceptionally hard to swallow.
I don't use facefook and whatsCrap, tho.

EDIT: How about "democracy abuse", this would probably get most of these fuckers into jail.

Yeah, right. As if criminals and pedos use WhatsApp and Facebook Messenger to communicate. Even many "normal" people have stopped using this crap. Haven't they heard of Signal, PGP and Tor? There's always going to be a way to securely communicate. They cannot unwrite cryptography. Just like they cannot undo Bitcoin. Fucking morons.

Yeah, the agenda is kinda clear: Spying on average joe... 1984 seems to be late for 40 years  Angry
Last year i got news that they want to ban messaging services that refuse to obey to the master-key dictate, speaking of Signal.
Banning Tor and projects like GPG and other frontends using encrypt/decrypt would probably lead to a full blown cyberwar.
Why not? It's clear who is the evil here.  Angry


In the 90s we had a saying:
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Welcome to 1984
as with all goverment projects, its a bit late and slightly overbudget

As I come to understand now, the "a bit late" and "slightly overbudget" parts were an understatement.
Then again, they seem to try to outperform the original blueprint in Orwells book in all areas and that understandably takes some time and money.

On a serious note: I predict there will be more otherwise pretty controversial rulings silently approved and introduced, carefully avoiding any public discussion as in Rahms famous "never let a good crisis go to waste"..
legendary
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You're never too old to think young.
Good morning Bitcoinland.

Up over $57k... currently $57257USD/$71388CAD (Bitcoinaverage).

Go October go.

legendary
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Enlighten me: why has the gold price been dropping in the past year?
Image loading...

From my (limited) understanding of economics, I'd expect gold to go up when (the fear of) inflation kicks in. But instead, it stopped going up the moment the inflation went up. Is this "normal"? Or could it have to be with Bitcoin taking over part of gold's safe haven position?

Buy the rumor, sell the news? People may also be selling to buy things that they think may be about to become less available with the supply issues going on.
hero member
Activity: 756
Merit: 1843
less than 10% and we have a new ATH. chopper is coming!

We have been missing the chopper! Can not wait!
legendary
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legendary
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a Cray can run an endless loop in under 4 hours
less than 10% and we have a new ATH. chopper is coming!
legendary
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Privacy Servers. Since 2009.
Funny feeling: we (most of us) know what is going to follow. Although, I have no wow feeling like the previous times (2013, 2017). I'm sure we're going into the 6 digit area but I'm not excited at all. Damn those titanium platters I feel numb ...  Cool
hero member
Activity: 756
Merit: 1843
there for you have keep 49,752SATS extra on the bfx-lnd1 channel.

Aha! That was the missing link to my understanding. Thanks.

EG: Cranked the fees on my LOOP channel, and getting retarded fees.

Does this mean I'm winning?



big time!... and yes i moved my fees up as well. Was tired of opening and closing channels for a loss!..
legendary
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Neighborhood Shenanigans Dispenser
there for you have keep 49,752SATS extra on the bfx-lnd1 channel.

Aha! That was the missing link to my understanding. Thanks.

EG: Cranked the fees on my LOOP channel, and getting retarded fees.

Does this mean I'm winning?

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