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I can guarantee you that lost btc address will eventually be subject to forfeit much like an old bank account with no action gets grabbed.

An untouched btc address in terms of no funds ever removed will be considered lost .


The funds will be folded back into mining rewards for blocks.

To anyone that thinks I am wrong I simply laugh.

Zero reason not to do it. Say in 2059 all 2009 address must show some withdrawal or lost.

To those that say no privacy I say you are clueless.

To those that say it will be outvoted maybe in 2059 it will be outvoted but down the road say 2084 or 2109 it will be out voted.
That will be the death of bitcoin, besides it does not make sense as it goes against everything bitcoin stands for and it goes against common sense as well.

If I take the bus and I lose my wallet with some money inside even if the wallet is lost all the contents still belong to me, if someone finds it and then takes that money for themselves it is still stealing, the same logic applies to lost coins, even if the coins cannot be claimed by their owners they are still the legitimate owners of those coins and taking them away in any way or form is stealing, at that point I might as well open a bank account at Cyprus and let them steal my funds as they did years ago.
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I can guarantee you that lost btc address will eventually be subject to forfeit much like an old bank account with no action gets grabbed.

An untouched btc address in terms of no funds ever removed will be considered lost .


The funds will be folded back into mining rewards for blocks.

There are some that think that this is CSW's motive behind BSV based on various things that he has said. I don't really see it happening with BTC but it's not impossible. There's also the possibility of quantum computing meaning that private keys will no longer secure and BTC will have to be moved to a more secure scheme or be swept by those with the capability.
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Bank boxes typically are less than $100 per year, depending on size. Jewelry you don't use ... but again, maybe better at home. I can find Sentry branded fire-safe waterproof chests with lifetime warranty on amazon.

Make sure to check the ratings on those. They're often not that impressive. Not that I'm recommending bank boxes either.
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Quite incredible that we’re sitting here applauding the achievement of people stacking 0.21BTC. Many of us here are already esteemed gentlemen but it’ll be nice in say 10 years to see current noobs as members who have made it.

Good times, good times.
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So a friend of mine is with KBC (bank) Didn't had any issues sending money in or out, from today they don't allow any deposits or whitdrawls anymore...

They getting more and more afraid, the dumb banks don't embrace or try to embrace BTC... they will get rekt thats a fact.

What are some of the background aspects?  Did the bank make some kind of a connection to BTC?

Were deposits or withdrawals related to BTC?  Did the guy have other sources of income and sometimes if there is some other business connected with the person (or account) then the bank will allow more high amount volumes of in and out because there is a business entity that is also connected with the account. 

Might need a few more background facts, duderino.


Exactamente, eddie.  That seems to be 3x the amount of our current generally applicable BTC accumulation goal that we would like to impose upon newbies... gotta start somewhere and surely nice to be 3x the current initial BTC accumulation goal.

Newbies coming into bitcoin are likely going to have to start out with some kind of a target BTC accumulation level, and several of us have been considering 1 BTC as a wee bit too high of a entry level target accumulation level, so a newbie is going to have to work his/her way up the ladder of BTC accumulation, and surely some normie newbies will be able to be more aggressive than others.

A kind of reasonable and practical and generally applicable starting point would be for newbies to try to set some kind of reachable goal and to get to 0.21 BTC.. it has some symbolism to it, and it is way more "reachable" than shooting for 1 BTC right from the start.  At today's BTC prices, 0.21BTC would a bit less than $10k but still reasonably reachable.

I had been asserting that older time bitcoiners have likely reached and or exceeded the target levels of newbie bitcoiners, and I have even conceded (admitted) that I have accumulated more than 3x the level of a newbie BTC investor.. so I am kind of richie status.. relatively speaking...especially compared with a newbie who is just starting to accumulate BTC.. .maybe starting with DCA investing at $10 per week or being more aggressive with $100 per week, or even if there might even be more aggressive approaches that involve lump sum investing too.... depending on how much lump sum that might be available and also depending on how much cashflow is available and other financial and psychological circumstances.

We each have to start somewhere and some times the longer that you are into bitcoin the more that you are able to accumulate.  Even with you, eddie, you have a forum registration date of October 2015, so you likely could remember that there might have been some transition between having 21 BTC as a goal or 10 BTC as a goal, but the goal amounts have been coming down through the years.. especially for newbies, and especially considering what kinds of goals might be reasonable to attempt to reach, on a broader level.. even though of course, individual circumstances can vary, too.  So we surely did go down from 10 BTC to 1 BTC and now 0.21 BTC is starting to seem like a fairly reasonable BTC accumulation point, especially for a newbie, and then if the goal is achieved, then to perhaps create higher and higher BTC accumulation targets that of course would be attempted to be reasonably tailored to personal circumstances, too.
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Here is gist of it...PTB cannot hold their wealth in rapidly inflating fiat..it's just a fact, everything else is secondary.
I choose bitcoin to have some say in my monetary situation.
All those worries about poor consumer 'protection' are as fake as it gets.
5-6% inflation, 0.01% in bank deposits interest. Is there something wrong with these numbers, lol?
Pay us on cash deposits, and NOT in 2024!
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We (royal that is) have already figured out that your squigglies are quasi-random because they have close to no explanation in regards to their placement.

Go figure...
You may want to educate us on that if you know better.

No, Dear God no......
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I can guarantee you that lost btc address will eventually be subject to forfeit much like an old bank account with no action gets grabbed.

An untouched btc address in terms of no funds ever removed will be considered lost .


The funds will be folded back into mining rewards for blocks.

To anyone that thinks I am wrong I simply laugh.

Zero reason not to do it. Say in 2059 all 2009 address must show some withdrawal or lost.

To those that say no privacy I say you are clueless.

To those that say it will be outvoted maybe in 2059 it will be outvoted but down the road say 2084 or 2109 it will be out voted.

Zero reason to do it. No benefit.
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I can guarantee you that lost btc address will eventually be subject to forfeit much like an old bank account with no action gets grabbed.

An untouched btc address in terms of no funds ever removed will be considered lost .


The funds will be folded back into mining rewards for blocks.

To anyone that thinks I am wrong I simply laugh.

Zero reason not to do it. Say in 2059 all 2009 address must show some withdrawal or lost.

To those that say no privacy I say you are clueless.

To those that say it will be outvoted maybe in 2059 it will be outvoted but down the road say 2084 or 2109 it will be out voted.
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What kind of fees are we talking about? Monthly fees or per-transaction fee or transfer fee? I mean, they all have horrible interest rates so the only reason to use banks would be if they had debit cards and you wanted to pay with those cards. Or bills. Or something for convenience.

I still do try to sign up more bank accounts while I can, as long as they are free or very low cost.
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https://www.tagesschau.de/wirtschaft/ing-kontogebuehren-verwahrtentgelt-strafzinsen-101.html


^This German bank is threatening their customers. Either you accept higher fees or your account gets scrapped. How is this even legal? This is why Bitcoin is king. Get your money out of the filthy hands of the bankers before they decide it's not your choice.

This is not really new and believe it or not more customer friendly than before.

Before, banks would change the conditions unilatterally and notify their customers who needed to actively object (leading to termination of their account) or automatically be considered to consent to the new agreement.

Recently that practice was challenged in court and the judge decided banks need to ask for active consent to change the conditions.

The outcome is all German bank do this now.
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https://www.tagesschau.de/wirtschaft/ing-kontogebuehren-verwahrtentgelt-strafzinsen-101.html


^This German bank is threatening their customers. Either you accept higher fees or your account gets scrapped. How is this even legal? This is why Bitcoin is king. Get your money out of the filthy hands of the bankers before they decide it's not your choice.
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If you're worried because of the recent dip, you're not doing it right.

Zoom out and enjoy the view.

@LFC: I hear you, but don't worry too much, it will come, and soon. In fact, I'm looking forward to buying my next $1k+ smartphone with your $50 prize money (there will be change for the beers too). When this happens, Bitcoin price will be at $180k+ and we will all be ecstatic. And it will happen sooner than many of us expect.

Onwards & upwards.

HoDL.

Edit: Fixed typo.

Initially, I was going to suggest not to spend the $50 bucks - but hey, we should be trying to be "real" about these kinds of matters, and at some point it will be just great to pull that trigger.. It's not like your only BTC, even though it has some symbolic value... but jeez.. $180k does seem like a nice target price for that $50 sale.. and decent (though not guaranteed) abilities to exercise such option in this particular cycle, rather than having to wait for another cycle.

By the way, I have had some of my own BTC portfolio management issues in the past, and I have created a new goal to attempt to at least hold onto my 0.63BTC (which is three times our current newbie entry stacking goals) through this whole cycle, even if the BTC price goes up to $180k.. so that HODL stash would be $113,400 in value at that time... (not trying to count chickens before they hatch, but great, great.. feels good man.)

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 We can all participate in an experiment but we'll need a control group to sell all their bitcoin now while the rest of you hodl.  The next near perfect alignment:



 Edit: In general, the proper method is to sell the eclipse and buy the equinox.

Ok.  You go first.

I will watch, and if it works for you, then I will do it next time.  maybe?

but probably not..especially since I already know what actually works.. hahahahaha.

A pump for ants. After the Evergrande thing seems solved you would expect a huge recovery. Anyway, I believe October will be glorious.

I think the SEC stuff has people worried for some damn reason.

That's what is worrying me as well. If there will be really a new ATH in the next months, I will exit with 50% of my holdings. People still believe politicians and these fake "charity" organizations are their friends. I did not expect they come so early after crypto. But I guess El Salvador amped things up. I would not wonder if El Salvador did that on purpose to get the stone rolling.

You are coming off as quasi-incoherent UnDerDoG81 and perhaps a wee bit emotional... including your reference to "charity" organizations, whatever that means?  You talking about government organizations or some organizations that might be targeted by recent SEC actions?

You are selling half your BTC stash at our new ATH, presuming that we get there?  That's strange because if we get to new ATH in coming months, that would seem more like a HODL or even a buying opportunity rather than selling opportunity, not that I am an advocate of buying BTC on the way up, but reaching a new ATH in the coming months would likely be a bullish sign - in spite your various expressed skepticisms of current macro-considerations - or even potential ongoing and increasing hostilities directed towards bitcoin.

Regarding your comment of El Salvador and crypto, hard to know what you mean.  El Salvador legalized bitcoin, not crypto, even though there are a bunch of shitcoins going into that space to leech off of bitcoin's security blanket, and yeah if there are some institutional concerns about the actions of El Salvador, then there are likely to be some scramblings of institutions and governments in terms of figuring out how to deal with the matter, if they are going to be able to realistically deal with bitcoin (or crypto for that matter) in a way that brings them some comfort in spite issues of jurisdictional arbitrage and the fact that there is not a world government, even if some governments and institutions are more imposing and influential than others (at least for the moment), and if you really believe that the various institutional and government actions are going to hamper the upside potential of bitcoin for this upcoming price rise, then sure that is possible. 

Almost every historical BTC price pump has also included various kinds of doom and gloom concerns around bitcoin while it was pumping in opposition to such overall ongoing concerns then being expressed during each past exponential price growth (blow off top, if you want to call it) period.

So, sure something in the range of our current ATH could end up being our top for this cycle,

or we might top off somewhere before $100k.

or in the range of $100k to $200k,

or in the range of $200k to $400k,

or in the range of $400k to $800k,

or in the range of $800k to $1.5mil,

or supra $1.5 mil. 

I have given my placement of odds for these various topping out scenarios in some of my past posts including considering that the top could end up stretching out as far as the 3rd quarter 2022. 

And sure, for me selling 50% of your BTC stash at our current ATH, if we get there.. seems a wee bit pessimistic and short-sighted.. but hey, you do you, and you are the ONLY one to know how much overinvested in BTC that you might be, or if you believe that you are adequately prepared for possible UPpity scenarios that go beyond our current ATH, including if you believe selling 50% of your stash would be prudent and reasonable in terms of where bitcoin is at currently in this cycle and your own psychological and financial circumstances and giving some considerations of various possible upside ranges for this particular cycle (including that we might not even make it to our already ATH within this particular cycle which is far from a non-zero chance.. perhaps even as high as 40% to 50% that we would not even make it to our already ATH this cycle.. who knows for sure?). 

In essence none of us should be putting more weight than deserved to upside BTC price scenarios, and so we do have to consider our own allocations and even that skimming off too much could have negative ramifications as well as just letting the BTC ride whether it is just a kind of skimming for this cycle or through various continued cycles in spite of possible price corrections and even premature entrance into a bear market.. and I doubt that current news is really justifying those kinds of seemingly extra-bearish conclusions as you, UnDerDoG81, seem to be making and seemed to have been historically inclined to make.. even though you sometimes have presented ur lil selfie as a strong hand, but that surely has not been my recollection of your historical contemporaneous actions/statements.

0.63BTC?
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So a friend of mine is with KBC (bank) Didn't had any issues sending money in or out, from today they don't allow any deposits or whitdrawls anymore...

They getting more and more afraid, the dumb banks don't embrace or try to embrace BTC... they will get rekt thats a fact.
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