Topic: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion - page 4924. (Read 26608620 times)

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Oh my..... You may well end up getting your posts removed from this thread OgNasty..  not a common feat to accomplish to have posts removed from the WO thread, but shilling products historically have been nipped in the bud.

Of course, you are not merely shilling your product, you are attempting to pump your reputation too.. which also seems a strange thing to be attempting to do in these here parts.  

I am not sure if anyone reported you yet, but it seems to be getting beyond tolerance levels of how we tend to roll here, if you had not noticed.. and you are coming off like a newbie with such nonsense pump talkenings to ruin dee moo (set a bad example, too).

Maybe you cannot help yourself?


Well that question was already answered.  In essence, the data that you had shown did not look spooky nor similar (based on other underlying concepts in bitcoinlandia.. including the various currently credible BTC prediction models that should have allowed you to reasonably conclude that we not be in 2018 at this here time), but you argued about it anyhow...hahahaha

It was a hypothesis. A theory has a lot of work put in. I just pulled a chart out of my ass and asked if the past data similiarity looked spooky.  

Is it coming soon?
$50K

That does not sound like a very self-oriented plan.  Who wants to fail/refuse to retire?

Part of getting to fuck you status seems to be a kind of retirement.. but maybe you are thinking about retirement differently?  I understand that you can still have projects and still be in a kind of fuck you status.

Are you, Elwar, going to screw things up in such a way that we (royal of course) have to completely reconsider what is "fuck you" status?

 


You are coming around, richy...   




Well good thing that you had your "insightful" DOWNity theory hedged.

 

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I didn't realize that his counter to 1BTC=1BTC had ulterior motives.

I am not sure if I have the link but here's an image to that

Isn't that what they normally say – Pride goes before a fall?

He was his own greatest undoing then 🤷

Since when a forum on internet cannot be a relevant source of ANYTHING related to Bitcoin?

Gotta change this rude uncle behavior. Peace Out.

Thanks for the context, and I purposefully provided high potential investment levels to try to help to imagine a way that someone who might be somewhat down and out might still garner up a good amount of money and how that could ended up being life changing money had it just sat for a long time.  Sure, it would be harder to arrive at higher levels of returns with $10 to $50 (the reality) as compared with $500 to $2,500 - even though my numbers were a bit of a conceptual stretch...

Oh for sure, some one who bought a mere 10 BTC or 50BTC in 2011 for $1 per bitcoin would be doing pretty damned well at these BTC prices, too.. and sure a forced HODL situation may well be the ONLY way that someone who is already struggling with having a home might be able to NOT have weak hands a variety of times in the past 10 years.. 10 years is a long time for someone with potentially weak hands to show their will power to HODL through it.



I surely understand that part, and that is part of the reason that I mention that some people would ONLY have a possibility of becoming rich from bitcoin by a kind of forced HODL.. such as losing their keys and then reuniting many years later.


Actually, you are correct we witness those kinds of bitter no coiners all the time who cannot get over their having had sold too much too  soon and frequently selling their whole fucking stash believing that they are a genius.. but then seeing how lacking in genius status that time ends up showing them to have been.



Gosh.. I do know that people can have their various kinds of specialties, but frequently there might be needs to have knowledge in a variety of areas, and gosh if some guys might have gotten distracted by some of the technological aspects. .. and may even be geniuses, but then get caught up in shitcoins because they have troubles really appreciating the sound money angle of bitcoin... not even saying that bitcoin maximalists will even always know or understand what they are investing in with any kind of in depth insight pertaining to many angles in which bitcoin can be appreciated.


I don't even know if any of the off-puttedness needs to be addressed.  The good, bad and the ugly can come to bitcoin, and no one can stop them. I have no desires to change the world, but there are ways to fit in and to attempt to take advantage of what is there.  I don't give too many shits about some of the scaredy cats who failed/refused to invest in bitcoin and even maybe they are still hostile to bitcoin because there are a bunch of meanies on the interwebs.  The longer they wait, the more they are going to fail/refuse to help themselves, and bitcoin no doesn't care if they have to buy it at $1.65 million rather than getting at dirt cheap bargain prices of $47,500 while supplies last at these prices.




As bitcoin adoption get's larger it encompasses every kind of person in the world, whether we like them or not.
Sure bitcoin seems to have started from a kind of niche group of cyber nerds and druggies or whoever found some early use for it, and whether they have accumulated coins or not, no one should give any shits.. they have to protect themselves and their stash if they have any... sure some people got removed from their coins through nefarious means, too..., It's not easy to be your own bank and surely there are loopholes and weaknesses in some of the interface and even wallet mechanisms.  Sometimes HODLers might not even want to discuss how they hold their coins, which is fair too.

There have always been criticisms of various kinds of user interfaces challenges, too... and having more options in how to hold your coins has not always led to easy to use - and many people just say fuck it and hold their coins on Robinhood or something like that - and many of us realize those are holding vouchers rather than actual coins, but some people feel better about getting BTC price exposure through various 3rd party vehicles rather than trying to learn some of the more complicated technicalities in the various ways to hold your coins or to use your bitcoin or even to purposefully hide your wealth, if that's what floats your boat..

And, we also know that some people have gotten tricked in the past in terms of believing that there was a decent amount of privacy in their bitcoin holdings, but then there can be some weak links in terms of how public might be their holdings in terms of the chain of custody and then if there are some disadvantages that might come if trying to obscure the chain of custody.

There are a lot of people who are freely attempting to educate others or to learn, and even participation in forum like this can be helpful to both share knowledge and attempt to learn from others, but sometimes there can be bad information, too... So of course personal responsibility remains a thing for any of us who get involved in bitcoin and some people get scared by all of this, or maybe they feel that they do not have time because they are working 3 dead end jobs and they do not have time to learn.. and those are personal choices too.. even though some people have started out with very shitty situations and have difficulties getting out of their shitty situation, and perhaps bitcoin can help or perhaps bitcoin can cause them to have even worse situations because they use it as a way to gamble rather than figuring out a way to use bitcoin as a reasonable and prudent investment or otherwise learn about various ways to potentially personally and directly profit from it without over doing the matter and contributing to causing a good thing to play out in bad ways in their personal life and the way that they ended up approaching the whole bitcoin matter (and hopefully not getting too distracted by shitcoins, but hey peeps are going to do what they are going to do.


You can think about it like that if you want... and many many many times, I might be arguing with someone or telling them to fuck off or even telling them that they have a lot of dumb ideas, so they might get pissed off at me, even while at the same time, I may well be sharing information to suggest the various conceptual ideas that they might need to consider in order for them to be in a better position to help themselves.

I don't even claim to know everything or to necessarily be right, but I do believe that it can be very helpful for each person to figure out particulars of their own situation such as their cashflow, their other investments, their view of bitcoin as compared with their other investments, their timeline, their risk tolerance and their skills, time and abilities to learn, plan, strategize and tweak along the way including figuring out the extent to which to trade or use financial tools (which are likely more advanced and unnecessary techniques).  It can be very very difficult and challenging just to figure out the answers to the various above categories of questions. and then to come up with some practical and personalized plans, and no one is going to give any shits about them so peeps need to attempt to figure out ways to help themselves and tailor their strategies and don't get emotional about other peeps on the interwebs, even if we might be calling them dumb the whole time .. and some people learn how to learn and learn how to not get emotional and to still be able to sort the wheat from the chaff in terms of both information available and how to share information in ways that help them to learn better.

I write novels of posts all the time, and sure sometimes I want to help others, but frequently I am just helping myself to attempt to better think through ideas.. and sure there might be some attempts to give back and sure there is some luxury in terms of NOT having to make money off of the shared information.  A lot of people work for free or somewhat free in bitcoin.. including that there might be ways that they generate some income  from services, but there may well be a lot of free stuff that is provided and all over the place for guys/gals/institutions that are willing to look for it and sort through some of the better stuff out there.



A lot of things might look like a cult when first learning about them and looking from the outside, and sure there are folks who have been involved in bitcoin for nearly 10 years and they still believe that it is a cult and whatever, they can believe whatever they like.. or get distracted by misleading framings...

I frequently have proclaimed that there is always quite a bit of truth in any myth, in any propaganda framing, and even in conspiracy theories.. .and so surely critical thinking skills can come in quite handy in terms of NOT getting too wrapped up by misleading framings, even if there is likely a decent amount of truth in the misleading framings..

Many of the misleading framings (talking points) are recirculated in bitcoin through the years, and sometimes there may well be beliefs that some battles have been resolved, but they come back again and again.  Sometimes there might be some cult feelings in regard to bitcoin because some dumbass talking point might get raised and some long time bitcoiner might seem to go a bit batshit crazy in reaction to the raised  (or re-raised) talking point, and the newbie may consider that the talking point had a lot of good points, but the long time bitcoiner just cursorily dismissed them, therefore, it feels like a cult.. blah blah blah... the bitcoiner did not back up his points, and he used "fuck" a lot in his response.



I don't feel any such an obligation.  Sure, sometimes there might be some usefulness in explaining some things or pointing out resources, and one reason that bitcoin does not have a marketing team is because it does not need it.  There are quite a few people willing to market for free and even if they don't market, bitcoin will market itself with its sound money y principles and value is going to gravitate into it, whether it is marketed or not and whether people recognize the value of it or not... so each person is responsible to figure out his/her own position and how to strategize their accumulation of BTC to get a stake, how much of a stake they believe they need/want (if any.. sure they can make the dumbass mistake of allocating none if they want) and how to manage their stake (perhaps changing) over time in order to NOT get too much shaken out of their desired stake too soon.


For sure, I share information.. but I am ONLY going to go so far in terms of helping out people who might believe that they do not want to be helped.. people also need to engage in some efforts to attempt to help themselves, and sure if the little old lady is crossing the road I may well help her.. but I am not going to necessarily suggest that she goes on the other side of the road if she believes it is better on her side of the road (even if I might believe otherwise), and sure I might spend a little time to educate her, but I only have so much time, too, and she may well be better off talking to someone she knows rather than a passing by stranger, such as me.


Sometimes we are not in a position to learn, and surely there are ONLY so many hours in the day.

Maybe it would be a good idea to learn coding for someone who is younger, but it might not be a good use of time for someone who is older, even if it still could be helpful to that older person but it might not be a good use of time to learn coding.  discretionary of course.  Some young people have no interest in learning anything that seems like it might be work, so they like to learn through osmosis, but still does not mean that they might not profit a lot from taking some classes on a certain topic.  Sometimes you do not know what you do not know, but sometimes it is not useful to learn certain things depending on where you might be in life.

Of course, I frequently will tell some no coiners or pre-coiners to figure out their various personal circumstances first, and as a newbie it is good to invest 1% to 10% of your investment portfolio into bitcoin, but of course, people can do whatever they like, even though I suggest 1% to 10% as a kind of beginner guide but also realizing that one is going to learn and even understand bitcoin way more once they go through an active process of setting up some accounts and establishing a basic beginner stake and then after doing all that the person would be in a better position to learn about if to increase the stake or to keep it the same or even to understand themselves (financial and psychological circumstance) much better through such active interactions.



No problem.. I am too talkative (some people refer to it as "wordy" which sometimes I deny), sometimes.


There is only so much time in the day, and each of us take different journeys.. and I am not even suggesting that there is no value in various shitcoin projects.. but I can make choices for myself for how to spend my time.  Sometimes I will see some kind of shitcoin project, and then I wonder where is the bitcoin connection?  Why do they need to print a coin, and I suppose another thing is that if my investment in bitcoin (and other investments that I have that are not in shitcoins) are doing quite well, then why do I need to add another level of complexity.. but sure, if there are some projects that you are able to identify as personally interesting, then sure it might not be any skin off your back to invest time and money into such project and maybe even flip it into more satoshis.. if it does not cause you to feel guilty.. sometimes I see stuff that I consider to be potentially profitable, but i find it morally questionable to get involved in such projects... so sometimes I don't want to compromise myself or even bring such ambiguity to my own thinking about my own behaviors...

I recall that I had various points in my life in which I was pursuing activities, and not even wanting to get financial compensation - or thinking about making BIG bucks by jumping through x, y and z hoops.. and so sometimes I find it to be quite amazing that I got involved in bitcoin in the way that I have.. and maybe getting richie is kind of a side bonus and not a central focus, even though when I put money into bitcoin  I was hoping at least to try to have an over all return that averaged around 6% per year which would put my bitcoin investment on par with my traditional investments into stocks (and other stuff that I had over the years).. but I was also o.k. to take the gamble to potentially lose the money that I invested into bitcoin, but it seemed to be a place that had decent upside potential that may or may not pay off, but was still interesting to study along the way..


hahahaha we are all balls of mess when getting into it, and sometimes people can go through very similar experiences, but they talk about it (or describe it) in much different ways, so it could cause some curiosity regarding why they may have framed their history, their present or their future prospects in such a way.

Sometimes we might conclude:  "something is wrong with this picture" and then other times, there could be an explanation as English being a second language... and sometimes, it is just that the person might have some experiences that cause difficulties/challenges to see the subject matter in any other way.

There are some members on this forum (or in this thread) that we have been having variations of the same argument for years, and sometimes it could just be time to just give up, but other times, the variations of the same argument come through in differing ways because bitcoin is not in the same position as it was the last time we treated the topic (whether a year ago or some other timeframe) and each of us also might not even be the same persons (some say bots), even if we keep going back to similar spins of our earlier arguments.

Part of the conversation might include:
"Didn't we already cover this two years ago?"

Since when is 4chan a relevant source of ANYTHING related to Bitcoin?

Peace out. Back to RL for a while. This place is pissing me off.

Hopefully, next time I check in, we'll be above $75k, our barn will be up, and I'll be kicking back with the crew plinking on our shooting range.

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Linky???

I could use a laugh.

Someone on 4chan said at 2:30 AM UTC, Bitcoin will crash back to $34k.
LMAO, He single handedly rekt so many bears.

I am loving it.

Ignored. Go fuck yourself with a length of rusted pipe, malaka.

Explanation

Everything I posted above is a fact. It’s all public data anyone can research.

If you don't believe those returns just wait until I locate the GLBSE data.

I’m not sure which part is under dispute that has brought on the hate…that you couldn’t buy 649 NastyMining shares on the GLBSE for $1000 originally, that they aren’t selling for >$30 per seat currently, or that they aren’t holding >$1900 per seat in untouched distributions now, but that’s all very easily verifiable and the number will go up when the GLBSE distribution data is located (and even more if you factor in the forks).

I wonder who owns this:

https://www.blockchain.com/btc/address/1P5ZEDWTKTFGxQjZphgWPQUpe554WKDfHQ

or this

https://www.blockchain.com/btc/address/1FeexV6bAHb8ybZjqQMjJrcCrHGW9sb6uF





I am looking for the un Named wallets in the top 100 list
https://bitinfocharts.com/top-100-richest-bitcoin-addresses.html

9 of the top 15 appears to be un named owners

14 of the top 25 do not have a name

19 of the top 36 are not named and are all over 1 billion dollars



7   1FeexV6bAHb8ybZjqQMjJrcCrHGW9sb6uF   79,957 BTC ($3,798,232,475)
8   3LYJfcfHPXYJreMsASk2jkn69LWEYKzexb   73,601 BTC ($3,496,298,055)
10   bc1qa5wkgaew2dkv56kfvj49j0av5nml45x9ek9hz6   69,370 BTC ($3,295,313,373)
11   3LQeSjqS5aXJVCDGSHPR88QvjheTwrhP8N   58,815 BTC ($2,793,906,493)
12   1LdRcdxfbSnmCYYNdeYpUnztiYzVfBEQeC   53,880 BTC ($2,559,481,548)
13   1AC4fMwgY8j9onSbXEWeH6Zan8QGMSdmtA   51,830 BTC ($2,462,113,970)
14   1LruNZjwamWJXThX2Y8C2d47QqhAkkc5os   44,000 BTC ($2,090,150,006)
15   3Gpex6g5FPmYWm26myFq7dW12ntd8zMcCY   40,014 BTC ($1,900,795,812)
17   bc1q5shngj24323nsrmxv99st02na6srekfctt30ch   40,000 BTC ($1,900,148,213)
19   bc1q7ydrtdn8z62xhslqyqtyt38mm4e2c4h3mxjkug   36,000 BTC ($1,710,138,859) / +36000 BTC
20   3EBpAZUAW5Tzyd2FhmmUZnYgftxJkKSLmJ   35,237 BTC ($1,673,860,714)
23   12XqeqZRVkBDgmPLVY4ZC6Y4ruUUEug8Fx   32,354 BTC ($1,536,922,292)
24   3FHNBLobJnbCTFTVakh5TXmEneyf5PT61B   31,275 BTC ($1,485,682,619) / +31275 BTC
27   12tkqA9xSoowkzoERHMWNKsTey55YEBqkv   28,151 BTC ($1,337,268,627)
29   bc1qx9t2l3pyny2spqpqlye8svce70nppwtaxwdrp4   24,672 BTC ($1,171,983,936) +405.3 BTC / +2846 BTC
30   17MWdxfjPYP2PYhdy885QtihfbW181r1rn   24,495 BTC ($1,163,610,377)
31   19D5J8c59P2bAkWKvxSYw8scD3KUNWoZ1C   23,969 BTC ($1,138,607,059)
35   1932eKraQ3Ad9MeNBHb14WFQbNrLaKeEpT   22,900 BTC ($1,087,825,486)
36   1MDq7zyLw6oKichbFiDDZ3aaK59byc6CT8   22,400 BTC ($1,064,074,286)


19 bilion dollar + addresses not linked to anyone at all pretty cool

Oh wow he really did that? What a dickhead. I thought he sounded like a bullshitter.