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legendary
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Merit: 1059
nutildah-III / NFT2021-04-01
Heh, I've just bought some corn. Cool At the perfect 55k. I'm starting to understand the rules of this game. Grin

If it goes a lot below 55k, I'll make sure to to re-read the manual. And to buy more.
legendary
Activity: 1708
Merit: 3439
Man who stares at charts (and stars, too...)
BTW it feels sooo funny that just by listening to WO regulars for the last four years i turned from panicking on every little daily dip to embracing, even enjoying dumps like 5% or more. If i wouldn't have done this, i would probably have gotten out at some bottom and got burned like mind.... you know who.
legendary
Activity: 2758
Merit: 13660
BTC + Crossfit, living life.
Long time we saw that bones guy not ?
legendary
Activity: 2758
Merit: 13660
BTC + Crossfit, living life.
hero member
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Merit: 587
Space Lord
legendary
Activity: 1708
Merit: 3439
Man who stares at charts (and stars, too...)
Some very aggressive dumping going on here

Calm down, we're at support now. The massive green weekend candle was crying for a dip like this. Some people don't get their greedy mouths full enough of worthless fiat (or shitcoins). Honey badger moving on.

#BTFD

I'd do like this: Buy the dip with half of what you want to put in, wait for a second one to spend the rest.
#nofinancialadvice
legendary
Activity: 2050
Merit: 1184
Never selling
Some very aggressive dumping going on here

Just in time for all those stimulus checks to be sent to exchanges.
member
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Merit: 14
Some very aggressive dumping going on here
legendary
Activity: 2050
Merit: 1184
Never selling
legendary
Activity: 1708
Merit: 3439
Man who stares at charts (and stars, too...)
but my above post didn't age well.

Don't worry, the pump will come. The brrrr of the money machine is pretty loud and I don't think that the bears want to lose money, so they'll have to take a break pretty soon.


PS. I also thought that this Monday will start with a pump, but let's not forget that in America is not morning yet  Wink

It may be just me, but i think the weekly dump at the start of the week in european timezones became quite a regular occurrence.
(EDIT: especially after pumpy weekends)
Could be related.

EDIT: I had a funny lil talk yesterday, with a guy that started saving (fonds) for bulding a home two years ago, when i asked him to look into bitcoin.
Back then, he said: "Bitcoin is over, $20k was the top of the bubble..." and of course he brought the popular "too late to invest in BTC" argument.
So i asked him yesterday if he bought.
He replkied: "You know, i am doing this fonds savings stuff and i'm satisfied with the 19% i get out of it per year."
And then, what was the jawdropper of the year for me: "I heard Bitcoin did well too, afaik it shows about the same performance".  Shocked Huh Roll Eyes
I didn't know what to say. Things like "you know, you could have financed several houses until date with the help of Bitcoin AND set the tracks for early retirement", but i didn't want to blame a (humble and friendly) nocoiner. I can't imagine the pain if he decided to look at the charts later.
copper member
Activity: 630
Merit: 2614
If you don’t do PGP, you don’t do crypto!
You folks are scaring me.

* nullius checks his ticker.

1 BTC = 1 BTC.  Ah, what a relief.

(The dollar got a bump up to 1720 sats; but the bubble can’t hold.  Yawn.)
legendary
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Merit: 6382
Looking for campaign manager? Contact icopress!
but my above post didn't age well.

Don't worry, the pump will come. The brrrr of the money machine is pretty loud and I don't think that the bears want to lose money, so they'll have to take a break pretty soon.


PS. I also thought that this Monday will start with a pump, but let's not forget that in America is not morning yet  Wink
legendary
Activity: 1526
Merit: 2617
Far, Far, Far Right Thug
Does a pump smell?

Because I smell a pump.

Could be COVID-19 though...

Thanks for the merit, serveria.com, but my above post didn't age well.

No worries, next week things will be totally different, as we all know...

legendary
Activity: 2590
Merit: 4839
Addicted to HoDLing!
Does a pump smell?

Because I smell a pump.

Could be COVID-19 though...

Thanks for the merit, serveria.com, but my above post didn't age well.

No worries, next week things will be totally different, as we all know...
legendary
Activity: 2590
Merit: 4839
Addicted to HoDLing!
https://twitter.com/pierre_rochard/status/1371237471296585731?s=21

Quote

Game theory 101: the first central bank to print fiat to buy #bitcoin for itself will win.


Just waiting for the day  Grin

And the next tweet:

[...]

But you know in the far far future when we are about to build Dyson spheres we better be having bigger of Pi value Smiley

[...]

I remember I read somewhere that Pi to an accuracy of only 5 decimal places is sufficient for practical orbital calculations up to the scale of our solar system. Given that, I'd risk a guess that the approximation of Pi that I get using Windows 10 calculator (3.1415926535897932384626433832795) should be sufficient for Dyson Sphere calculations. But I'm not a physicist.



[...]

Though the truth is that you should have a backup strategy and use it (RAID is not a backup). Two is one and one is none. All storage equipment is ephemeral.

[...]

Anyone who has ever lost data due to a failed storage device would attest to that. I've set up my main PC to take daily backups to a device in a different physical location. Funny thing is that, since I started doing this, I haven't had a single device failure... Murphy's Law?
legendary
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Merit: 1767
Cлaвa Укpaїнi!
Yeah, price really going down yo!
member
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Merit: 14
We appear to be headed below the previous ATH, which is a new occurrence in this bull run
hero member
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Merit: 634
JJG, please stop.
Speaking that, baby talk. Now.
Many still like you.

But if you still rage
At peeps that you don't like,  then
One more, SIM attack?

Tell us what you said,
Tell us where you leaked info.
How much did you lose?

If I, searched for me?
I mostly see, bitcointalk.
Maybe change your name.
legendary
Activity: 3990
Merit: 4597
Ahem, if someone has a current $36 mil btc position, why $70K shaving off would have any significance to their plans?
It wouldn't as it's basically ant's food amounts.

Listen to this, maybe finally you learn something useful:
https://youtu.be/wnQJ8ROyhrM?t=1545

Alas, you just don't get it after all those years, but hope springs eternal.


So yeah, you are trying to suggest that you are supposedly correct with whatever the fuck that you are doing  in terms of still wanting to accumulate coins but failing/refusing to disclose some of your detailed strategy but such strategy seems to involve quite a bit of anticipating and hopening that the BTC prices do not go up more or that BTC prices go down more because you failed and refused to stack enough BTC when the BTC prices were lower so you are regretting that you are not pee pared enuff ur lil selfie.. so since you are so fucking nervous about the inadequacy of your BTC stash, you are thinking that everyone else (including your truly and other peeps who are active in this thread) need to feel as nervous as you about not having enough coins.. blah blah blah, and contrary to your presumptions and assertions a decent number of the peeps who have been active in this thread, including yours truly, did pee pare our lil selfies for UPpity, and even some of us truly did stack way the fuck too many coins too early... too bad that you were to preoccupied with down or flat rather than adequately and meaningfully preparing for the UP that ended up playing out.

Sure, I understand that bitcoin is so generous, so even whining and pointing the finger at others fucks like yourself who try to act like they are adequately prepared for UP, you are still rewarded because bitcoin is quite generous in terms of its UPpity, so even if you make mistakes by NOT getting enough bitcoin, bitcoin still rewards you with whatever inadequate supply that you had created for yourself.  So I am not even proclaiming that you do not have a decent amount of coins or that you are not profiting from your coins, but the fact of the matter remains that you did not adequately prepare for UP and you are regretting such lack of preparations even if a lot of your understanding of your lack of preparedness for up is in a kind of denial status.. because you deny stock to flow, but now you are realizing that BTC's price is following stock to flow but you anticipated that BTC prices would be at $10k-ish or less than $10k.. but too bad, they around 6x higher than you expected.. and you do not have enough coins that you can shave some off without getting all fucking worried about not having enough coins.  sucks to be you.   Tongue Tongue

Why do you think that you know anything about my situation?
It all a bunch of baby-talk gobbledygook.
You try to read too much into people and it is misfiring 100%, at least in my case.
copper member
Activity: 630
Merit: 2614
If you don’t do PGP, you don’t do crypto!
That would pretty much mean a total break of SHA-256.  The purpose of a cryptographically secure hash is to make the outputs computationally pseudorandom with respect to the inputs.  You imply some clever way to use a correlation between the inputs and outputs for other types of calculations.  Even MD5 (or even MD2) isn’t that broken.


There are ways to successively approximate PI using random numbers. Now, I'm not saying it *can* be done or even suggesting how (I'm smart but not that kind of smart). I'm just saying it wouldn't surprise me. PI is one of those kind of fundamental constants.

That’s true, and it’s an interesting observation; but how does hashing help?  Some handwavy scheme to produce pseudorandom numbers faster than your CPU can process them?  ;-)


Well to be honest I wasn't talking about "ASIC" but only about the computational power that's around GPUs.

GPUs can’t be used to mine Bitcoin.  It’s so infeasible that discussion of GPU mining is banned from the Bitcoin mining forum, per the stickied rules thread there:

3. Mining BITCOIN is done exclusively with dedicated BITCOIN mining hardware based on ASICs - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Application-specific_integrated_circuit . You CAN NOT meaningfully mine bitcoin today with CPU, GPU or even FPGAs. Bitcoin difficulty adapts to match the amount of mining done on the network and has reached levels trillions of times too high to mine meaningfully with PCs, laptops, tablets, phones, webpages, javascript, GPUs, and even generalised SHA hardware. You will not find software in this section to help you mine bitcoin in this absurdly inefficient manner in this subforum. It would cost you thousands of dollars in electricity per year to earn only a few cents in bitcoin. Even if you combined all the computers in the world, including all known supercomputer, you would not even approach 0.1% of the bitcoin hashrate today. Any discussion outside of ASIC related mining, except in the interests of academia, will be moved to the altcoin mining section. There isn't any point attempting to mine bitcoin with CPU or GPU even in the interests of learning as it shares almost nothing with how bitcoin is mined with ASICs and will not teach you anything.

TL/DR Summary:
 - You CANNOT meaningfully mine bitcoin with your PC or laptop no matter how powerful it is.
 - You CANNOT meaningfully mine bitcoin with your tablet or phone no matter how powerful it is.
 - Mining apps for your phone or tablet that claim to mine bitcoin are almost certainly scams.
 - You CANNOT find software here to mine bitcoin with your PC by itself.
 - You MIGHT be able to do one of the above with altcoins, but such discussion goes into the altcoin mining section.
 - You CANNOT find or post software here to mine on other peoples' PC without their permission.

I have seen some colourable claims that high-end FPGAs can still meaningfully mine Bitcoin.  I do not know whether or not that is true; either way, that would be ridiculously expensive compared to buying an ASIC.

My ideas was not about calculating the value of Pi, but the fascination of how much computation power we are putting in, in calculating Bitcoin hashes.

It is indeed astounding.  And that is what secures the network against double-spends!  To do a so-called “51% attack”, you need to do more computation than everybody else combined (so that you are doing more than half the total, and everybody else is doing less than half).  (N.b. that even a 51% attacker can only double-spend, and censor transactions.  Even a 51% attacker cannot spend arbitrary coins owned by other people, or otherwise violate consensus rules.)

When I read that computers on Bitcoin network are calculating quintillion of hashes per second I thought for the sake of argument let suppose if we combine all GPUs just to calculate the value of Pi,

I should note, GPUs are not necessarily faster than CPUs.  They are faster than CPUs for very specific types of operations:  Roughly speaking, tight loops that can be run in parallel.  The core speed of a typical GPU is actually slower than that of a typical high-end CPU!  But GPUs do a whole bunch of the same thing at once more slowly, instead of doing one thing at a time more quickly.  (That’s the most nontechnical way that I can explain it.)

I am not very much familiar with pi algorithms.  I don’t know how well they parallelize.  I do know that they typically require huge amounts of fast storage, as I have repeatedly mentioned.  If the algorithm can’t be parallelized, then a CPU will be faster than a GPU.  If it’s I/O bound, then the question is irrelevant because your processor wastes time waiting for your storage media.  Same as for memory bandwidth (another big issue in high-performance computing).

GPUs beat CPUs at Bitcoin mining because Bitcoin mining is what’s called “embarrassingly parallel”:  The algorithm is so easy to parallelize that it’s almost as if it was designed for that.  Games use GPUs because many different graphics rendering algorithms (especially 3D) are embarrassingly parallel.  AI also does a huge amount of parallel stuff.  Anything single-threaded will run much faster on a CPU.  That is essentially why we have CPUs, and don’t just redesign GPUs to run all of our programs.  Most types of general-purpose computing run best on a CPU; a few types of computing run much, much better on a GPU.  Different tools for different jobs.

we can calculate 10x60 quintillion digits of Pi that will be one followed by 20 zeros?

Not sure what you mean.  I think that your terminology is off.

Anyway, however many digits you mean:  How do you intend to store all of these digits?  Really, really biiiiig disks?
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