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fly or die
Bisq flashing on my left monitor, a sell has happened, then I look at the price : less than 39000€ WTH ! (not my selling price, but the average price)

Bought back with my usual profit elsewhere so no issue, in fact if it's crashing there is no risk for me, but I need to buy before a bounce.

The price on Kraken is moving like mad, I'm removing my offers, don't need that stress right now.

Sounds like you do have "issues," aesma, in which you are doing the opposite of what actually has been shown to work for years and years and years in bitcoinlandia.

What works is selling on the way up and buying on the way down.  

Sorry for your additional losses due to dumb.

Ah ah don't worry what I do is arbitraging, I sell on one medium above the current price and buy back at the current price. I split the gains half in fiat half in BTC.

The only thing is I do it manually so I have to be relatively quick to minimize the risk if the price is climbing, but considering my sell premium the risk is only to earn less, not to lose. Unless there is a freak accident, but even then, my sells are only 0.01BTC at a time. I've already earned much more than that.

When I'm busy, away or sleeping I deactivate my offers. Now I also do it if the price is moving like crazy.
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Plant 1xTree for each Satoshi earned!

So you still are able to say a correct thing in here  Roll Eyes

Don't worry.... my altcoin agenda is just political. Smiley     ....  I'm creating a buildup for "crypto crusades" against high level investors and billionaires. I'm just doing crytos Gods work of creating awareness against manipulation. And I do still believe in BTCiTcoin for at least the next 5-10 years. Then I'l probably dump for other things. Smiley





legendary
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BTC + Crossfit, living life.
Awesome to see OKCoin dump BeeCash And SV Grin

Also awesome:  Tesla buying BTC1.5 Billion

HODLERS are HAPPY!


Hello brother

Long time
legendary
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Awesome to see OKCoin dump BeeCash And SV Grin

Also awesome:  Tesla buying BTC1.5 Billion

HODLERS are HAPPY!

legendary
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Man who stares at charts (and stars, too...)
Performing like a shitcoin:

https://finance.yahoo.com/quote/GME

Heh, i am still holding for the spirit of the squeeze  Cheesy
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In order to dump coins one must have coins
M1 (not M2 or M3!), revised numbers...it is at...$18 tril (from $4 tril in feb 2020 and $1.3 tril in 2008)
https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/M1

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What are we more likely to hit?

$40,000 or $60,000?

I say it’s about 50/50.

Quite probably both, as a HODler who cares, it's just a matter of time....
legendary
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Self-Custody is a right. Say no to"Non-custodial"
Today is a big day for me. Thanks to BTC, and partially to you all here, I am debt-free today. I quit my job, and I paid off ten years of debt, now I own my house and a few acres in the clear.
My wife and I live fairly simply. Old paid-for cars (that I can fix), no cable TeeVee. A large garden and a small shooting range in the back yard.

I quit smoking cigarettes, and DCA that amount into BTC. Doing this payoff burned a big chunk of the corn, but  it is a better thing to do for myself, now. We won't be wealthy, but this is the American dream for me. YMMV.

Good to hear, brother. Congrats on meeting and possibly exceeding your target (you still have some BTC I presume). Regardless, you've met your target, and while your target may seem too mundane/plain/simple for many, I'd say that this is a target worth having. Setting the right target for one's life is a very difficult thing. For me, having an overly extravagant lifestyle, Lambos, hookers, blow and all that, seems so futile and pointless... Maybe the "hookers" part is OK sometimes. Cheesy  Of course, to each their own.

Another important point in your post is being debt-free. This is the most important for me. IMHO, owing anything to banks/people/whoever is the single most stressful thing in life. I've never owed anyone anything. My planning has kept it that way. It's good that you've reached this state.

All the very best man, enjoy!

Setting some realistic targets is probably good.
I could already pay off the mortgage and buy nice things and still keep some BTC right now if I wanted.
5x and I guess I could retire but I will probably leave it till 10x. We will see if BTC achieves that by say 2026-2027. If we are talking 20x then retirement would probably include a big new home I guess. Still keeping some BTC from my original stash in either case.

I don't really need anything but it would be nice to retire in my 40s. I still have a massive lust to play certain type of video games and I can't see that changing. A bit of travelling every 2-3 months would be great in a post Covid world.
Hookers I can already afford but maybe it is another incentive at retirement to have more of that, I'm not sure.

A Lambo absolutely does not interest me at all. I'd be happy with a Tesla Model Y probably in the mid 2020s / potential BTC retirement. Don't need a new car right now.

My BTC investment came from gambling winnings. It was the last bet I ever played after being addicted to gambling starting 15 years ago, I recouped all my total losses I ever had with a big hunch that I was right about. Instead of blowing that money, it went into BTC. And I've never had a gambling problem since.

Maybe the early retirement will all happen, maybe not.



Oh gosh.  For sure, having enough flexibility that a 10x or 20x might occur from here to 5-6 years is within the realms of reach, even though we know far from guaranteed.

So, in the meantime continuing to invest in BTC likely remains a good thing, and surely not a whole hell of a lot of people are able to retire in their 40s anyhow.. so you would be quite far ahead of many people and even into their 50s unable to really retire.

Also, if you have 5-6 years to think about it, you surely should be able to figure out the budget that you are going to need, even though you could project some of that in advance, and I really understand the real life issue that actually getting there in terms of BTC prices becomes way more concrete than merely projecting 10x or 20x in advance.

Surely, many regulars here already understand that my system is not relying on peaks in BTC price, even though I do understand that you could actually figure out ways to play BTC price peaks to your advantage, but for me, I don't really care too much on a personal level because I am using the 208-week moving average and I have been feeling comfortable once it went above $5k.. and so now that it is at $9,300 it is nearly double comfort because it is going up around $200 per day in recent times.. so I personally feel so much cushion NOT to have to worry.

So, yeah, it could take some time for guys to really come around to considering relying on the 208-week moving average rather than focusing on BTC price peaks, even if they might be able to diversify out some value upon BTC price peaks - if that is part of the longer term strategy.  I, personally, feel better relying on the 208-week moving average because in that way, I feel way more comfortable just keeping a very overwhelming majority of my value in BTC and just spending such value as I need it, whether it might be making quarterly withdrawals on a systematic basis or whether it might be some BIGGER purchases that I might want to make, and so far, it seems to me that I have had so much fiat from which I can spend, so I do not even feel any kind of need to touch any of my BTC... but of course, if the BTC price were to correct down to the area of the 208-week moving average, then there also could come some perception (from me) that maybe I do not have enough cash to just spend willy nilly, and in that regard, there does tend to be some benefits to projecting out cashflow for 6-18 months or even longer so that some cash might be cashed out of bitcoin, to the extent needed if there appears that there might  be some potential short-falls in cashflow within such projected 6-18 month period in advance.
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legendary
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Dude, you leave this WO for 2 days, you're fugged.

How the hell am I going to read all this up? Shouldn't we like have one of us writing a daily conclusion every day of the week, and the next week someone else takes it over etc.

On the other hand, sometimes looking at the charts is sufficient to have a general idea about what has been said and written. Cool

Never leave this WO for longer as a few hours while sleeping
legendary
Activity: 3962
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Self-Custody is a right. Say no to"Non-custodial"
Today is a big day for me. Thanks to BTC, and partially to you all here, I am debt-free today. I quit my job, and I paid off ten years of debt, now I own my house and a few acres in the clear.
My wife and I live fairly simply. Old paid-for cars (that I can fix), no cable TeeVee. A large garden and a small shooting range in the back yard.

I quit smoking cigarettes, and DCA that amount into BTC. Doing this payoff burned a big chunk of the corn, but  it is a better thing to do for myself, now. We won't be wealthy, but this is the American dream for me. YMMV.

Good to hear, brother. Congrats on meeting and possibly exceeding your target (you still have some BTC I presume). Regardless, you've met your target, and while your target may seem too mundane/plain/simple for many, I'd say that this is a target worth having. Setting the right target for one's life is a very difficult thing. For me, having an overly extravagant lifestyle, Lambos, hookers, blow and all that, seems so futile and pointless... Maybe the "hookers" part is OK sometimes. Cheesy  Of course, to each their own.

Another important point in your post is being debt-free. This is the most important for me. IMHO, owing anything to banks/people/whoever is the single most stressful thing in life. I've never owed anyone anything. My planning has kept it that way. It's good that you've reached this state.

All the very best man, enjoy!

Sure, getting rid of debts would be a decent thing to do - or at least to have them in a kind of managing timeline in which you are not necessarily feeling burdened by them or the paying off of whatever remains with them.

Sometimes, with certain kinds of debts, it can be a good thing to "work" those debts in a kind of manageable way that enhances your cashflow.

Another part that surely needs to be considered is the extent to which both your living within your means is sustainable in terms of accounting for some of the increases in costs that are likely to come in the coming years and also trying to anticipate a variety of expenses that also might mean keeping an ongoing emergency fund or money that is kept or stashed away in an emergency fund for the emergency(ies) that are likely to be inevitable, even if you might not know their exact nature at the time of maintaining such a system.

Ever since I got into bitcoin, I have maintained a kind of fund that I take from my regular cashflow that is allocated towards investing in BTC, however if cashflow is short in any particular month, that money does not end up going into BTC, it is either used for the extra expenses or rolled over into the next month for a bit of extra reserves.  So, depending on how erratic are your expenses, would depend on how BIG of a cushion you would like to maintain.

For example, when I was young and had hardly any expenses, I frequently would have a $300 to $500 cushion of cashflow on a monthly basis, but as I developed greater complications including keeping a business afloat that had some erratic cashflows, my monthly extra cashflow cushion had to go up to $2k, and sure I have had times of floating this extra monthly cashflow around, and even during times of travel, the $2k cushion seems to work out much better than anything sub $1k - even though ongoingly I end up having an extra $1k in dollars every month that is NOT really working for me except creating piece of mind that I have that extra cushion there.

I guess that I am just saying, in respect to nanobtc, that he seems to be feeling a certain level of tightness in his budget but at the same time some optimism that his budget is going to be sufficient, and those kinds of considerations are surely ones that he has thought through including an appearance that he has discussed those with his wife, too.  So, surely no one really wants to have to go back to work and earn some extra money if they do not have to, but surely some people will consider that earning some extra money is not necessarily out of their grasp in the coming years, either, that is if they feel they have to and they might even feel some amount of liberty that they can choose which work that they would like to do on such a part time basis rather than being stuck in a full time JOB.
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Dude, you leave this WO for 2 days, you're fugged.

How the hell am I going to read all this up? Shouldn't we like have one of us writing a daily conclusion every day of the week, and the next week someone else takes it over etc.

On the other hand, sometimes looking at the charts is sufficient to have a general idea about what has been said and written. Cool
legendary
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WO=Quiet

Gonna get quieter, gonna go play some PLO. Smiley

Haha, go get them, been a while since my last games.... will pick up soon imo

Have fun and GL
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BTC + Crossfit, living life.
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Doomed to see the future and unable to prevent it
legendary
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BTC + Crossfit, living life.
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