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legendary
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Still alive, thanks so much to everyone for your replies and merits. Good advices given that will help me get through this.

You don't fully realise the seriousness of COVID-19 until you get it. I still don't actually know if what I have is COVID-19, but symptoms point to that direction... Should do a test to find out. Until now I'm confined at home with zero contact with others.

Now on day 4 from onset of symptoms. By day 5-6, and if things get serious, I should be getting shortness of breath, at which point I should be admitted to hospital. If this does not happen, then it may be possible to fight this at home on my own. I hope so.


Sounds like covid. Hate to say this, but I believe in facing reality: Make sure someone has access to your coins. Reason being I have had two people in December die of COVID. Both felt terrible, went to hospital, felt much better in 2 days, talked to me on the phone about how it really sucked, it wasn't the flu and holy fuck what a nightmare including the shits. The next morning both were dead. They go fast after getting "better".

Please take care of yourself and watch this carefully. I hate seeing people die of this completely preventable shit.

I appreciate the post, although it's scary as hell. As I said, you don't fully appreciate the seriousness of the situation until it happens to you. My advice to all is to not get close to people not wearing masks or wearing them improperly. If the situation is such that there is pressure on you to talk or interact with them, just say NO. You may be wearing your mask and everything (as I was), but the issue is not you, it's the ones you come in contact with! So, stay SAFE, take it VERY seriously, and REFUSE to get close to those without proper protection.

On topic, I see we passed the 27k € ($34k) mark, which is just AWESOME! I saw one big but very brief dip, which was quickly absorbed by the buying pressure. It seems that any corrections (big or small) are quickly counteracted by pumps that bring the price back to its "slow" upward course. If we keep going like this, $100k should easily be reached in 2021. Actually, predictions talk about as high as $400k, but for me $100k as a correction-stabilized price for 2021 is more than satisfactory. I'm sure many of us WOers' lives will change when this happens.

Onwards & upwards!

HoDL

#humbled #blessed #sickpuppy

Let me give you another anecdotal story. I got it in May, from my brother.
His wife also got it, and they both got it from a friend at a dinner party.
We all had the same symptoms, first headache and fever (28-29 degrees) for two weeks and then about a week of slow recovery and then normal recovery, somewhere in the middle we lost the sense of smell for about a week, we also had a cough but not too bad.
No one died or got seriously ill, and nobody I know have died from it. So it's not always that bad.

I took 10 000 IE of vitamin D3 and 25 mg of zink daily during my sickness and stopped taking amlodipin since there were reports of that med making it harder to breath in some cases.
I had no shortness of breath whatsoever though.
 After the covid I actually felt better then before, I had had a bad cough for a long time, probably related to my arthritis, that disappeared after my covid, I also have a lot less problems with my arthritis, it's like it somehow rebooted my immune system. I did get some weird neurological  problems, for example a sensation in my left ear, like a bug was crawling in there, it's all gone now.
So, it doesn't have to be all bad, I hope you get a mild version and get better soon.
legendary
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legendary
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I see this as a new kind of FUD:

FUD FUD FUD FUD FUD FUD FUD FUD FUD

And i see you as a new kind of FUD  Grin

Not even like that. You're like government honeypot, you're talking like "Ah, crypto hodlers, do not do anything, hope for the best, imagine lambos, islands and your success. Everything will be fine, governments and many people which lost their jobs in 2020 are our friends". Not trustworthy  Grin (JOKE)

you're implying that even if (when?) hodlers will eventually get filthy rich they wont be able to enjoy their wealth? That somebody is going to take their coins by force? That they will be despised by the community? This is BS man.  Cool  

I'm implying that "нe кaжи гoп пoки нe пepecкoчиш", in English there is no such cool cathphrase, so you should at first get in rich in fact, and only after that - celebrate. This is crypto, too many bad things can happen. Like hackers, criminals with guns and so on.

And yeah, the most dangerous part is of course leftists governments. For example: this spring they told to wear mask, and mindless horde had done it without any complains (besides i'm not covid denier). Tomorrow they will tell to the same horde that crypto hodlers is the main cause of their poverty and you will fall under 21th century witch hunt. Unlike me, because I'm prepared for any such case.

And this is was my intent to write here - be smart and ready, don't be like in this meme - ugly filthy nerds which think that this will be so easy.

Thats why they did Mt. Gox hack. To keep us Poor, to keep a few of those Honest ones poor..

Don't use centralized exchanges, that's all. If you can't - then maybe you deserve to get fucked by life again  Grin
I've lost 17 % of my deposit on Bitfinex in 2016 hack, and i never used exchanges again for even 10 % of my depo at once. Maybe this is because my IQ is 131 and i have a memory :p  
legendary
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Actually, it is not the fact that he sold, it is that he sold everything (apparently re-bought 1 btc later, which should have already brought it would probably bring him back to the same 40K).
Sometimes, when you cannot handle it, sell some, like 0.1% or something to release some steam.
BTW, in a grand picture, any sell might eventually look stupid. If btc is 1mil, 33k would look like a pimple on the chart.

Not even that he sold it all but that he didn't rebuy a significant amount later...  Cool
legendary
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They made me this way..
Just wow! My current (unrealized) networth places me in the company of the 900 richest people in my country, according to the official statistics. I guess there are some more hodlers like me not counted by that statistic. Anyway, this is a good occasion to celebrate! Cheers mates! (I've emptied 2 champaigne bottles just celebrating the previous ATH's  Grin)

Lol, this is reason not to celebrate, rather to worry about. If you're in European country, taxes can be up to 50-60 % of your potential wealth (VAT + income tax) and if you're not in EU or USA you should better run there, because in any other country you have a big probability to lost your head not only from bitcoin price rising.

And yeah guys, you can remember my words, but in near future, at least in EU and USA there will be new taxes. And majority of people will support this, because noone wants to feel himself bad while his nerdy neighbor has become a billionaire. in UK for example bitcoin is forbidden now (i know that in fact not "forbidden" but anyway high restrictions)

Here is already memes about how "it's not fair":


So yeah, the great expropriation is coming  Undecided



Thats why they did Mt. Gox hack. To keep us Poor, to keep a few of those Honest ones poor..
legendary
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Privacy Servers. Since 2009.
Goodmorning.

While sleeping corn dumped with $3000 en went up to another ATH. Cool






This meme was greatly underrated imho. We're going to experience much more of this shit along the way. Like 10k down 15k up kind of moves.  Shocked
legendary
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Cлaвa Укpaїнi!
Hey WOers!

Have been trying to follow WO in these great times. Price is soaring, what a wonderful start of the year. We all deserve it, as our patience, perseverance and belief, are now being rewarded. 2021 should be a great year for Bitcoin, and we'll be here to celebrate it. No memes, no Carolinas, no CCMF. That should tell us something. Price is just too low for those. Perhaps at $50k or $100k...

The year started badly for me, I've been in bed for the last couple of days. High fever (up to 40 degC), diarrhea, it's fucking torture... Could be a cold, a flu, or COVID-19, I don't know. What I do know, is that I had to go to different places the last couple of weeks and most people I met either did not wear masks properly, or not at all. FUCKS! Measured my fever just now, it's 38 degC. It could mean it's subsiding. I hope so.

Lots of merit-worthy posts out there, you guys are awesome, my phone is next to my bed, trying to catch up. No merits to pass on, but that's no problem I see many of you have taken care of that.

Going back to bed, and hopefully whatever bug or virus I have will clear away soon.

Take care all.

BTW, not selling a fucking sat!

I hope you get better soon, follow the advise given, they are sound.
legendary
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Privacy Servers. Since 2009.
Just wow! My current (unrealized) networth places me in the company of the 900 richest people in my country, according to the official statistics. I guess there are some more hodlers like me not counted by that statistic. Anyway, this is a good occasion to celebrate! Cheers mates! (I've emptied 2 champaigne bottles just celebrating the previous ATH's  Grin)

Lol, this is reason not to celebrate, rather to worry about. If you're in European country, taxes can be up to 50-60 % of your potential wealth (VAT + income tax) and if you're not in EU or USA you should better run there, because in any other country you have a big probability to lost your head not only from bitcoin price rising.

And yeah guys, you can remember my words, but in near future, at least in EU and USA there will be new taxes. And majority of people will support this, because noone wants to feel himself bad while his nerdy neighbor has become a billionaire. in UK for example bitcoin is forbidden now (i know that in fact not "forbidden" but anyway high restrictions)

Here is already memes about how "it's not fair":


So yeah, the great expropriation is coming  Undecided


I see this as a new kind of FUD: you're implying that even if (when?) hodlers will eventually get filthy rich they wont be able to enjoy their wealth? That somebody is going to take their coins by force? That they will be despised by the community? This is BS man.  Cool  
hv_
legendary
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I can see $50k this year. Maybe even $100k. I can also see $1m in the not too distant future, but not this year or next.

Hm... what do you see in terms of tether and upcoming case?
hero member
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I hope all you suckers are using a VPN while sh!tposting around here. Tongue Cheesy Cheesy ... ROFL !  Roll Eyes  Cheesy  Roll Eyes

Where the hell have you been?

Smiley

I've been here around the last 500 pages. But mostly just reading and sometimes giving merits. Smiley Cheesy Cheesy
If I post something, it usually gets lost in the endless sh!tstorm that I see 100 pages per day (almost). At this rate the gen Z-oom-ers will take over and reach page parity again...  Roll Eyes  Roll Eyes
legendary
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I can see $50k this year. Maybe even $100k. I can also see $1m in the not too distant future, but not this year or next.
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Shit I panic bought a lot at 26800€ and now we go south  Roll Eyes

That's NOT how to do it, UnDerDoG81... but if you have at least a 4 year accumulating and holding timeline, it should all work out in the wash.. meaning that decent likelihood that any BTC that you buy at any particular point will be profitable at 4 years into the future.. yet at the same time, nothing is completely guaranteed in bitcoinlandia, as we all likely should realize such a thingie without having to say it (but I said it anywho)

I also bought some at 21k€, so all good Smiley I am optimistic we go at least to 30k€ but expecting 100k€ by years end.
Now after touching this magic figure of $30K all eyes on this another milestone $100K which is surely happening in near future in the name of SATOSHI NAKAMOTO.  Cheesy Grin
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I hope all you suckers are using a VPN while sh!tposting around here. Tongue Cheesy Cheesy ... ROFL !  Roll Eyes  Cheesy  Roll Eyes

Where the hell have you been?

Smiley
legendary
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Shit I panic bought a lot at 26800€ and now we go south  Roll Eyes

That's NOT how to do it, UnDerDoG81... but if you have at least a 4 year accumulating and holding timeline, it should all work out in the wash.. meaning that decent likelihood that any BTC that you buy at any particular point will be profitable at 4 years into the future.. yet at the same time, nothing is completely guaranteed in bitcoinlandia, as we all likely should realize such a thingie without having to say it (but I said it anywho)

I also bought some at 21k€, so all good Smiley I am optimistic we go at least to 30k€ but expecting 100k€ by years end.
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I hope all you suckers are using a VPN while sh!tposting around here. Tongue Cheesy Cheesy ... ROFL !  Roll Eyes  Cheesy  Roll Eyes
legendary
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legendary
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OTHER THEN the taxes you pay on ALL your wealth that you have at the beginning of the year

yeah of course, and moreover, you don't find any my quote where i told other thing. My only assumption was about that in near future some taxes especially for bitcoin holders can appear. We will see it.

Regular income tax like as in tax on earned income from a job/employment..
Probably something like 18% ish.. Depends on how much you make really..

Just saying that I would file and pay tax on a BTC sale at the same time I would file my income taxes all in one bundle.. But they would be taxed separately..
Like, it wouldn’t be 15% ltcg + 18% income.. Just 15% on the sale, and around 18% on earned income separately..

That’s how it worked when I sold a bit in 2017 atleast, gave me audit insurance on it, haven’t heard a word about it since, so I guess it worked..

Understood. I'm just asking because you should know better what is in your country. But in many EU and USA there is "progressive" system of taxation. With different levels of taxation (in USA it's up to 30 %).


And this is all if we are talking about first world countries like USA or EU. In third world countries the prblem of taxation for bitcoin user is the least of all problems (for example, the main problem how to not lost all your bitcoins to corrupted police and government). My initial replica was more about this.
legendary
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Shit I panic bought a lot at 26800€ and now we go south  Roll Eyes

That's NOT how to do it, UnDerDoG81... but if you have at least a 4 year accumulating and holding timeline, it should all work out in the wash.. meaning that decent likelihood that any BTC that you buy at any particular point will be profitable at 4 years into the future.. yet at the same time, nothing is completely guaranteed in bitcoinlandia, as we all likely should realize such a thingie without having to say it (but I said it anywho)
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