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Topic: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion - page 6482. (Read 26720873 times)

legendary
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If you don't like taxes you should indeed move, to a country with bad roads, a bad justice system and bad healthcare. Good luck with that.

I tried to live in a place with no taxes and they tried to kill me for it.

No roads, no justice system, no healthcare.

It was wonderful.

And +1 WOsMerit for someone with his mouth and his money (and his ass, if I might speak French) locked in the same place.
legendary
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we are close to $40,000. now we can say that John McAfee may have a 1% chance of hitting that $ 500,000 forecast

Our stable numeraire is coming: http://www.gata.org/node/8303

Very interesting and instructive read, Wekkel. The rabbits you pull out of your hat are sometimes very pretty.
It's dated 2001 (!) and still current. It's like the author has seen Lehman Bros, Fanny Mae and all that jazz.

+1 WOsMerit
legendary
Activity: 3598
Merit: 2386
Viva Ut Vivas

If you don't like taxes you should indeed move, to a country with bad roads, a bad justice system and bad healthcare. Good luck with that.

I tried to live in a place with no taxes and they tried to kill me for it.

No roads, no justice system, no healthcare.

It was wonderful.
legendary
Activity: 3620
Merit: 4813
A speedy prosperous recovery for AlcoHoDL!
legendary
Activity: 3808
Merit: 7912
Just wow! My current (unrealized) networth places me in the company of the 900 richest people in my country, according to the official statistics. I guess there are some more hodlers like me not counted by that statistic. Anyway, this is a good occasion to celebrate! Cheers mates! (I've emptied 2 champaigne bottles just celebrating the previous ATH's  Grin)

Lol, this is reason not to celebrate, rather to worry about. If you're in European country, taxes can be up to 50-60 % of your potential wealth (VAT + income tax) and if you're not in EU or USA you should better run there, because in any other country you have a big probability to lost your head not only from bitcoin price rising.

And yeah guys, you can remember my words, but in near future, at least in EU and USA there will be new taxes. And majority of people will support this, because noone wants to feel himself bad while his nerdy neighbor has become a billionaire. in UK for example bitcoin is forbidden now (i know that in fact not "forbidden" but anyway high restrictions)

Here is already memes about how "it's not fair":


So yeah, the great expropriation is coming  Undecided



 Right!  Because memes are harbingers of a dystopian future?

 I don't think so.



legendary
Activity: 2296
Merit: 2271
BTC or BUST
I have my own health insurance that costs me like $20 a week.. I wouldn’t trade it for any of those “free” government healthcare schemes..

The way to actually get the BEST healthcare in the world, is to pay cash for it, in the USA..
If you don’t have health insurance and just say “I’m paying cash”, they say “right this way sir”..

If I sell BTC I have to pay 15% long term cap gains and at a 0 zero $ cost basis (because I didn’t pay anything for my BTC), along with regular income tax, with audit insurance for about $150..
So basically 15% of the amount sold..

Prayers for AlcoHoDL
hero member
Activity: 1133
Merit: 819

I'm not telling here is big taxes good or not itself, just should admit that narrative about "high taxes - good roads, healthcare courts" not right. There many places in the world with high taxes and low life. And for example, Switzerland has something like 25 % (upper limit which depends from canton to canton) income tax in the same time, France has (if i remember correctly) something like 40 %. And i think it's obvious where is better to live.

But my above replica was not about that.

Do you have a reputable source for your claim about rising taxes on property?

Just my observation. Look around yourself. Many young people are leftists, "eat rich" and so on. And if they don't want to endure such people as Jeff Bezos (who get his money from his hard work) they will not tolerate bitcoin millionaires for sure. And governments will use this intolerance for their own needs. I can be wrong, but it looks like that now.

then move to The Netherlands

Even if bitcoin will hit one million, i will never live in a country where guns are prohibited Tongue

Well I do see a strong correlation between taxes and public services. As you have to pay taxes to pay for public services. Low taxes simply mean worse public services, and then you'll have to pay privately for those services. Which means your income before taxes is higher, but after you pay your medical bills etc might not look so good.

I do observe and look around and i do not have to pay 50-60%  on my wealth. I do not have to pay income tax on my holdings, just 1-3%.

Good news for you: guns are not prohibited here. You can have guns and shoot them.
legendary
Activity: 3620
Merit: 4813
Dutch broker Bitonic = SOLD OUT! Cool

Last time this happend was in 2017.




https://www.viewbase.com/coin/bitcoin
legendary
Activity: 1372
Merit: 2017
If you don't like taxes you should indeed move, to a country with bad roads, a bad justice system and bad healthcare. Good luck with that.

Do you have a reputable source for your claim about rising taxes on property? My guess is the same source as the 50-60% you mention.

Anyway, if you do like good roads and healthcare and stuff like that, but still want to pay as little as possible on your wealth, then move to The Netherlands. Not a very patriotic thing to do but you're welcome here anyway.

You say that as if taxes were spent only on roads and health care. And as if all countries with low taxes were banana republics. I think it's so obvious that I don't have to explain that both things are false.

I believe that taxes must be paid, but in the dilemma between paying a lot of taxes and paying little, I prefer to pay little, because politicians in industrialized countries, who, in their majority, do not stop raising taxes, what they do is increase political spending, and not so much improve health care or roads. They spend the money on things they think will get people to vote for them, which is usually not, and in fact most of the time not, the best way to spend the money.
legendary
Activity: 2436
Merit: 1850
Crypto for the Crypto Throne!
If you don't like taxes you should indeed move, to a country with bad roads, a bad justice system and bad healthcare. Good luck with that.

Do you have a reputable source for your claim about rising taxes on property? My guess is the same source as the 50-60% you mention.

Anyway, if you do like good roads and healthcare and stuff like that, but still want to pay as little as possible on your wealth, then move to The Netherlands. Not a very patriotic thing to do but you're welcome here anyway.

I'm not telling here is big taxes good or not itself, just should admit that narrative about "high taxes - good roads, healthcare courts" not right. There many places in the world with high taxes and low life. And for example, Switzerland has something like 25 % (upper limit which depends from canton to canton) income tax in the same time, France has (if i remember correctly) something like 40 %. And i think it's obvious where is better to live.

But my above replica was not about that.

Do you have a reputable source for your claim about rising taxes on property?

Just my observation. Look around yourself. Many young people are leftists, "eat rich" and so on. And if they don't want to endure such people as Jeff Bezos (who get his money from his hard work) they will not tolerate bitcoin millionaires for sure. And governments will use this intolerance for their own needs. I can be wrong, but it looks like that now.

then move to The Netherlands

Even if bitcoin will hit one million, i will never live in a country where guns are prohibited Tongue
legendary
Activity: 4242
Merit: 5039
You're never too old to think young.
Wow. Someone's frantically trying to drive the price down but walls are being eaten (Watching Bitstamp).

Many coins changing hands. These are exciting times.

hero member
Activity: 1133
Merit: 819
Just wow! My current (unrealized) networth places me in the company of the 900 richest people in my country, according to the official statistics. I guess there are some more hodlers like me not counted by that statistic. Anyway, this is a good occasion to celebrate! Cheers mates! (I've emptied 2 champaigne bottles just celebrating the previous ATH's  Grin)

Lol, this is reason not to celebrate, rather to worry about. If you're in European country, taxes can be up to 50-60 % of your potential wealth (VAT + income tax) and if you're not in EU or USA you should better run there, because in any other country you have a big probability to lost your head not only from bitcoin price rising.

And yeah guys, you can remember my words, but in near future, at least in EU and USA there will be new taxes. And majority of people will support this, because noone wants to feel himself bad while his nerdy neighbor has become a billionaire. in UK for example bitcoin is forbidden now (i know that in fact not "forbidden" but anyway high restrictions)

So yeah, the great expropriation is coming  Undecided


If you don't like taxes you should indeed move, to a country with bad roads, a bad justice system and bad healthcare. Good luck with that.

Do you have a reputable source for your claim about rising taxes on property? My guess is the same source as the 50-60% you mention.

Anyway, if you do like good roads and healthcare and stuff like that, but still want to pay as little as possible on your wealth, then move to The Netherlands. Not a very patriotic thing to do but you're welcome here anyway.
legendary
Activity: 1932
Merit: 1610
Self made HODLER ✓
@AlcoHoDL

I wish you a quick recovery and surely this is just a little bump of the road. Now that we almost made it, it's better that you just take some needed rest and come back stronger and with plenty of time to keep celebrating Smiley
legendary
Activity: 2184
Merit: 1540
my grandma is 93. she has been a tarot fortuneteller for more than 50 years. this morning she called me and told me bitcoin was at $34k and that it will hit 80k before a significant pull back. this is unprecedented. in all those years that i am involved in bitcoin, she never made a price prediction. and she rarely ever calls me. (by the way: she will get her covid vaccine tomorrow)

caution! i dont know if she was referring to $ or € when she talked about 80k  Cheesy

Dammit where is that guy who posted sort of a WO digest here? We need him now. I don't remember his name...

Breaking:
*New ATH today.  
*AlkoHODL fighting covid
*ivomm getting on Forbes list in his home country
*Bullish grandma predicts 80k
*Bawb & Rick buying Texas
etc...

EDIT: xhomer comes up with limited edition hat to commemorate El Dude quitting his McDonalds job  Grin

 Grin  
I heard you loud n clear spidey

Please give some time, was witnessing some repetitive content for quite some time so it was kinda tough and then got busy with irl stuff, will start updating recap and all the drama soon.
legendary
Activity: 2436
Merit: 1850
Crypto for the Crypto Throne!
Just wow! My current (unrealized) networth places me in the company of the 900 richest people in my country, according to the official statistics. I guess there are some more hodlers like me not counted by that statistic. Anyway, this is a good occasion to celebrate! Cheers mates! (I've emptied 2 champaigne bottles just celebrating the previous ATH's  Grin)

Lol, this is reason not to celebrate, rather to worry about. If you're in European country, taxes can be up to 50-60 % of your potential wealth (VAT + income tax) and if you're not in EU or USA you should better run there, because in any other country you have a big probability to lost your head not only from bitcoin price rising.

And yeah guys, you can remember my words, but in near future, at least in EU and USA there will be new taxes. And majority of people will support this, because noone wants to feel himself bad while his nerdy neighbor has become a billionaire. in UK for example bitcoin is forbidden now (i know that in fact not "forbidden" but anyway high restrictions)

Here is already memes about how "it's not fair":


So yeah, the great expropriation is coming  Undecided

legendary
Activity: 2520
Merit: 3038
@AlcoHODL
If it's our spiked little friend, it's a nasty critter, but you're strong. I had friends contract covid and restored to 100% in a couple of weeks. Others paid a larger bill, but still alive and kicking (and they are older than what I think you are). It really varies wildly from person to person.

Hodl on!
legendary
Activity: 2520
Merit: 3038
my grandma is 93. she has been a tarot fortuneteller for more than 50 years. this morning she called me and told me bitcoin was at $34k and that it will hit 80k before a significant pull back. this is unprecedented. in all those years that i am involved in bitcoin, she never made a price prediction. and she rarely ever calls me. (by the way: she will get her covid vaccine tomorrow)

caution! i dont know if she was referring to $ or € when she talked about 80k  Cheesy

Dammit where is that guy who posted sort of a WO digest here? We need him now. I don't remember his name...

Breaking:
*New ATH today.  
*AlkoHODL fighting covid
*ivomm getting on Forbes list in his home country
*Bullish grandma predicts 80k
*Bawb & Rick buying Texas
etc...

EDIT: xhomer comes up with limited edition hat to commemorate El Dude quitting his McDonalds job  Grin

 Grin  

Serveria is the new JSRAW?
legendary
Activity: 1708
Merit: 3439
Man who stares at charts (and stars, too...)
Shit I panic bought a lot at 26800€ and now we go south  Roll Eyes

Trust king daddy.
don't mindrust it.
legendary
Activity: 4242
Merit: 5039
You're never too old to think young.
Good morning Bitcoinland and Happy Birthday.

12 years old and like any adolescent, starting to show signs of growing up.



The daily ATHs keep coming ($34800 Stamp) with only minimal corrections to keep it honest... currently $33427USD/$42552CAD (Bitcoinaverage).

We all knew 2021 was going to be a big year for Bitcoin's price but this is almost getting ridiculous. Yesterday was one for the ages.

Go Bitcoin go.
____

Get well Alcohodl!
legendary
Activity: 2186
Merit: 1213
Shit I panic bought a lot at 26800€ and now we go south  Roll Eyes
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