Topic: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion - page 6644. (Read 26729993 times)
December 22, 2020, 07:56:27 AM
@icopress sounds like amongus
December 22, 2020, 07:50:21 AM
Anyone else feel that this $22.5k - $23.5k somewhat sideways movement is similar to the time spent bouncing around 19k a few weeks back? Up a bit, down a bit but always returning to some form of equilibrium at a similar level.
indeed. we are around €19k right now. maybe it's the same kind of psychological resistance. we will break $25k and €20k at the same time, two important milestones.
December 22, 2020, 07:29:18 AM
true bitcoin got decent price movement hope the price will start to grow again
Its already growing we already living around $23K which is not bad at all from here going to jump some good in coming days. 
December 22, 2020, 07:25:14 AM
I have an idea, but before creating anything I want to know if there will be those who want to join the game? (Plays about 30 people)
Bitcointalk Mafia is a psychological game that adapts to the online version. The hoster randomly distributes the roles between the players (three camps - light, dark and maniac). The game lasts about a week, the players communicate in a thread specially designated for this (trying to figure out who is who and pursuing the goals of their side).
Objectives of the game
Light side: civilians, a detective and an assistant detective. Doctor, Assassin and Bartender can join the Light Side. The task of the Light Side is to find and neutralize players representing the mafia and a maniac.
Dark side: all Mafiosi and those "civilians" who have gone to the dark side. The task of the Mafia is to kill all the players representing the "Light side" and the maniac, only the dark ones should remain alive. In that case, if one light and one dark remains alive, the dark ones will prevail. In the event that one player representing the "Light side" remains alive + one player representing the "Dark side" then the dark ones win.
Bitcointalk Mafia is a psychological game that adapts to the online version. The hoster randomly distributes the roles between the players (three camps - light, dark and maniac). The game lasts about a week, the players communicate in a thread specially designated for this (trying to figure out who is who and pursuing the goals of their side).
Objectives of the game
Light side: civilians, a detective and an assistant detective. Doctor, Assassin and Bartender can join the Light Side. The task of the Light Side is to find and neutralize players representing the mafia and a maniac.
Dark side: all Mafiosi and those "civilians" who have gone to the dark side. The task of the Mafia is to kill all the players representing the "Light side" and the maniac, only the dark ones should remain alive. In that case, if one light and one dark remains alive, the dark ones will prevail. In the event that one player representing the "Light side" remains alive + one player representing the "Dark side" then the dark ones win.
December 22, 2020, 07:18:35 AM
wtf?
https://www.tagesschau.de/wirtschaft/unternehmen/musk-tesla-bitcoin-101.html
Classically this means, you should sell. At least it's the case on stocks.
Tagesschau is the official (semi state owned) TV news source in Germany. like BBC in GB. they report about elon musks tweet conversation with micheal saylor. like it is relevant news.
we are winning. billionaires tweeting about converting billions of USD into BTC is hitting prime time news. wow.
https://www.tagesschau.de/wirtschaft/unternehmen/musk-tesla-bitcoin-101.html
Classically this means, you should sell. At least it's the case on stocks.
Tagesschau is the official (semi state owned) TV news source in Germany. like BBC in GB. they report about elon musks tweet conversation with micheal saylor. like it is relevant news.
we are winning. billionaires tweeting about converting billions of USD into BTC is hitting prime time news. wow.
December 22, 2020, 06:22:45 AM
Great, now I need Bitcoin to moon so I can buy a new house in order to feel safe again. THANKS, LEDGER!
And I only bought the stupid thing for its novelty value and to keep some loose change on it...
And I only bought the stupid thing for its novelty value and to keep some loose change on it...
December 22, 2020, 06:22:24 AM
Im not stupid enough to type my details into any internet "have I been hacked" search engine.
But had no spam so far.
But had no spam so far.
No need. You can download the leaked files and search yourself using a text editor. That's what I did.
Can't help feeling possessing such data is perhaps a little naughty.
It is, but if you've purchased a Ledger before June 2020 (or ever, really), you are entitled to peek inside and check if your data is in there.
I was lucky, too.
But, i apologize because i was thinking about the old, hacked dataset.
This one is new.
F*ckers!
EDIT: Just read their apologies on titter. "Alerted the authorities"
LOLHelp, police!!! HEeeeelp!! What a bunch of losers.
They should consolidate and wipe their data every day. What's so hard about that?
December 22, 2020, 06:03:40 AM
Im not stupid enough to type my details into any internet "have I been hacked" search engine.
But had no spam so far.
But had no spam so far.
No need. You can download the leaked files and search yourself using a text editor. That's what I did.
Can't help feeling possessing such data is perhaps a little naughty.
It is, but if you've purchased a Ledger before June 2020 (or ever, really), you are entitled to peek inside and check if your data is in there.
December 22, 2020, 05:58:49 AM
Im not stupid enough to type my details into any internet "have I been hacked" search engine.
But had no spam so far.
But had no spam so far.
No need. You can download the leaked files and search yourself using a text editor. That's what I did.
Can't help feeling possessing such data is perhaps a little naughty.
December 22, 2020, 05:48:20 AM
true bitcoin got decent price movement hope the price will start to grow again
December 22, 2020, 05:47:39 AM
There are 273K customers on the list. That's not a partial database. You bought from them before the leak and you should be there. With whatever data you provided to them. The "persona" I provided to them is in fact there.
[...]
[...]
272,853 customers to be exact. I have the file open in front of me now, and, no, I'm not in the list (fortunately)!
It's a kind of weird feeling to see in front of me so many emails, full names, addresses, phone numbers... Several of them in my own neighbourhood. The list is so large, that anyone anywhere could possibly find a Ledger owner close by...
This should make us all aware of the implications of submitting our personal details to different sites on the net. We should not take this lightly.
Did I miss something? Where can I see the list?
I don't want to post a link to leaked data... Just Google it. Very easy to find. <--- That's the scary part!
December 22, 2020, 05:46:14 AM
There are 273K customers on the list. That's not a partial database. You bought from them before the leak and you should be there. With whatever data you provided to them. The "persona" I provided to them is in fact there.
[...]
[...]
272,853 customers to be exact. I have the file open in front of me now, and, no, I'm not in the list (fortunately)!
It's a kind of weird feeling to see in front of me so many emails, full names, addresses, phone numbers... Several of them in my own neighbourhood. The list is so large, that anyone anywhere could possibly find a Ledger owner close by...
This should make us all aware of the implications of submitting our personal details to different sites on the net. We should not take this lightly.
Did I miss something? Where can I see the list?
December 22, 2020, 05:38:21 AM
There are 273K customers on the list. That's not a partial database. You bought from them before the leak and you should be there. With whatever data you provided to them. The "persona" I provided to them is in fact there.
[...]
[...]
272,853 customers to be exact. I have the file open in front of me now, and, no, I'm not in the list (fortunately)!
It's a kind of weird feeling to see in front of me so many emails, full names, addresses, phone numbers... Several of them in my own neighbourhood. The list is so large, that anyone anywhere could possibly find a Ledger owner close by...
This should make us all aware of the implications of submitting our personal details to different sites on the net. We should not take this lightly.
Do we know the dates from and to of the data compromised?
The leaked files do not contain date information. They are in this format:
File 1: Just email addresses (those in Ledger's mailing list)
File 2: Email | Full Name | Address 1 | Address 2 | State/Country | Telephone Number
December 22, 2020, 05:31:37 AM
Im not stupid enough to type my details into any internet "have I been hacked" search engine.
But had no spam so far.
But had no spam so far.
No need. You can download the leaked files and search yourself using a text editor. That's what I did.
yeah but its not much different from a list of people who brought expensive hot tubs.
Sure some may be rich, some might just like hot tubs.
There are much easier ways for crooks to find rich people.
The paranoia level here is like a feedback loop.
I just suggested a secure way to check if you're on the list...
I think the more immediate threat for those affected is the spam/phishing flooding of their email accounts. But it is possible that some (hopefully none) could face physical harassment too.
There are 273K customers on the list. That's not a partial database. You bought from them before the leak and you should be there. With whatever data you provided to them. The "persona" I provided to them is in fact there.
This is something that "happens" but at the same time it is something that should not have happened. What angers me the most is that they lied in saying it was only a very partial list with only 9K customers when it is indeed the whole list.
Many, if not most, of the addresses in the list look like real home addresses (maybe not their own though) no P.O. boxes or business.
The only good thing is that the list is so big (in fact there is way more people in some zones than I would have ever guessed) that it "dilutes" the focus of any potential "attacker". Also, like Globb0 said it doesn't mean those do have a big amount of BTC (maybe not even BTC, just worthless shitcoins) nor that they do still have anything anymore.
Not a dull day in Bitcoinland....
Nope. They clear their e-commerce database from time to time, iirc once a year.
This one got leaked, with data from a certain timespan.
They outsourced their shop and the shop software was vulnerable.
It's not the customer database, which is not accessible from the internet, where all customer data is stored.
Then it is the full database since they outsourced the shop till June 2020 (if they are not lying again). 273K customers is a lot of customers and way more than the 9K they initially said had been compromised.
Do we know the dates from and to of the data compromised?
December 22, 2020, 05:20:40 AM
Im not stupid enough to type my details into any internet "have I been hacked" search engine.
But had no spam so far.
But had no spam so far.
No need. You can download the leaked files and search yourself using a text editor. That's what I did.
yeah but its not much different from a list of people who brought expensive hot tubs.
Sure some may be rich, some might just like hot tubs.
There are much easier ways for crooks to find rich people.
The paranoia level here is like a feedback loop.
I just suggested a secure way to check if you're on the list...
I think the more immediate threat for those affected is the spam/phishing flooding of their email accounts. But it is possible that some (hopefully none) could face physical harassment too.
There are 273K customers on the list. That's not a partial database. You bought from them before the leak and you should be there. With whatever data you provided to them. The "persona" I provided to them is in fact there.
This is something that "happens" but at the same time it is something that should not have happened. What angers me the most is that they lied in saying it was only a very partial list with only 9K customers when it is indeed the whole list.
Many, if not most, of the addresses in the list look like real home addresses (maybe not their own though) no P.O. boxes or business.
The only good thing is that the list is so big (in fact there is way more people in some zones than I would have ever guessed) that it "dilutes" the focus of any potential "attacker". Also, like Globb0 said it doesn't mean those do have a big amount of BTC (maybe not even BTC, just worthless shitcoins) nor that they do still have anything anymore.
Not a dull day in Bitcoinland....
Nope. They clear their e-commerce database from time to time, iirc once a year.
This one got leaked, with data from a certain timespan.
They outsourced their shop and the shop software was vulnerable.
It's not the customer database, which is not accessible from the internet, where all customer data is stored.
December 22, 2020, 05:11:59 AM
I am glad those ledger suckers only have my email.
December 22, 2020, 05:08:56 AM
Im not stupid enough to type my details into any internet "have I been hacked" search engine.
But had no spam so far.
But had no spam so far.
No need. You can download the leaked files and search yourself using a text editor. That's what I did.
yeah but its not much different from a list of people who brought expensive hot tubs.
Sure some may be rich, some might just like hot tubs.
There are much easier ways for crooks to find rich people.
The paranoia level here is like a feedback loop.
I just suggested a secure way to check if you're on the list...
I think the more immediate threat for those affected is the spam/phishing flooding of their email accounts. But it is possible that some (hopefully none) could face physical harassment too.
There are 273K customers on the list. That's not a partial database. You bought from them before the leak and you should be there. With whatever data you provided to them. The "persona" I provided to them is in fact there.
This is something that "happens" but at the same time it is something that should not have happened. What angers me the most is that they lied in saying it was only a very partial list with only 9K customers when it is indeed the whole list.
Many, if not most, of the addresses in the list look like real home addresses (maybe not their own though) no P.O. boxes or business.
The only good thing is that the list is so big (in fact there is way more people in some zones than I would have ever guessed) that it "dilutes" the focus of any potential "attacker". Also, like Globb0 said it doesn't mean those do have a big amount of BTC (maybe not even BTC, just worthless shitcoins) nor that they do still have anything anymore.
Not a dull day in Bitcoinland....
December 22, 2020, 04:56:45 AM
Anyone else feel that this $22.5k - $23.5k somewhat sideways movement is similar to the time spent bouncing around 19k a few weeks back? Up a bit, down a bit but always returning to some form of equilibrium at a similar level.
December 22, 2020, 04:45:46 AM
Im not stupid enough to type my details into any internet "have I been hacked" search engine.
But had no spam so far.
But had no spam so far.
No need. You can download the leaked files and search yourself using a text editor. That's what I did.
yeah but its not much different from a list of people who brought expensive hot tubs.
Sure some may be rich, some might just like hot tubs.
There are much easier ways for crooks to find rich people.
The paranoia level here is like a feedback loop.
I just suggested a secure way to check if you're on the list...
I think the more immediate threat for those affected is the spam/phishing flooding of their email accounts. But it is possible that some (hopefully none) could face physical harassment too.
December 22, 2020, 04:36:26 AM
I'm with you on this. I was not affected, purely out of luck (purchased a Ledger from those jokers in 2017—one year before the leaked data), but I'm pretty sure they still have my details.
I'm an EU citizen too. If there is a law or other legal/official info I can use to threaten them in the email I'm going to send them, please let me know, either publicly (maybe here, for the benefit of all), or via PM. I also want to make sure they completely erase my data from their servers.
And I do hope they go bankrupt—I think they will, given that their blunder directly negates their sales pitch for their h/w wallets. Who, in their right mind, would buy a Ledger, or use their online services, after what happened? The Ledger may be a solid product, but I prefer the mafia way of dealing with such issues: "When in doubt, kill 'em all!"
I'm an EU citizen too. If there is a law or other legal/official info I can use to threaten them in the email I'm going to send them, please let me know, either publicly (maybe here, for the benefit of all), or via PM. I also want to make sure they completely erase my data from their servers.
And I do hope they go bankrupt—I think they will, given that their blunder directly negates their sales pitch for their h/w wallets. Who, in their right mind, would buy a Ledger, or use their online services, after what happened? The Ledger may be a solid product, but I prefer the mafia way of dealing with such issues: "When in doubt, kill 'em all!"
I was lucky too, not affected.
I also browsed and searched the leaked content, and there are surprisingly more customers in my area (within 50km) than i thought.
However, to every name i was visualizing a face getting smashed with a hammer, so i quit sniffing in the file.
Here's your pointer:
https://gdpr-info.eu/art-17-gdpr/
Fixed your link above. Need to remove the extra "http://" and all quotes from the BBCode.
Thanks for this.
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