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legendary
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Silver is anti bacterial, pretty magical but its for bad burns and difficult wounds that might go sceptic.   Ingesting silver or gold, I'm thinking of some case where a dude turned blue I think silver can prove toxic as it has some reaction.    Gold is used on food in Japan and a couple other places, imo dull but if any metal is going to be ok I guess its a non reactive one but silver we know does oxidize some.    Silver in tanks of water is used to slow down fungi growth, bacteria when we still had useful money i read the silver coins were used in bottles of milk to slow the spoil from bacteria.   I wouldnt eat one though :p

Silver indeed has antibacterial properties. I was prescribed topical silver treatment along with iodine-based treatment (not at the same time!) for a bad leg infection several years ago. It also has its dangers. When the wound specialist at the hospital found out that one of the nurses at the wound clinic had used silver on me without consulting her first, she hit the roof and stopped the silver use immediately. After running a series of tests, she restarted the silver treatment but at a lower concentration. Silver is not something for self medication. See a doctor.

There are many pseudo-sci cultists who think that colloidal silver is some kind of panacea. There is little or no scientific evidence to support most of this nonsense. It's really just an invitation to argyria (blue skin).
legendary
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Doomed to see the future and unable to prevent it

Are you trying to say he wouldn't have fake bone spurs to get out of serving his country?



Semper Fi
legendary
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Flippin' burgers since 1163.
Next ~two week period difficulty adjustment in 5 blocks: +15% (!)
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I get T.B.D. with https://fork.lol/pow/retarget. The other site https://diff.cryptothis.com/ does not agree; probably too early to tell will get better estimates as date gets closer.


That is because we just moved into a new 2016 blocks ‘difficulty period’.
legendary
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Good morning Bitcoinland.

Still stuck in the mid-$9xxx doldrums... currently $9555USD/$12915CAD (Bitcoinaverage).

Tumbling tumbleweeds. Need moar coffee please.

Nothing like M0ar corporate welfare to bail out the so called capitalist leaders of the world that can't stand on their own 2 feet.

Corporations are just collectivist organizations like banks, communist parties, unions, or religions.

Yup, sure the fuck looks like a religion to me. Wink


While I think that Torque's assertion that COVID is a "manufactured emergency" is a complete crock of shit, I do think that the stock markets are no longer "markets" in the traditional sense. When junk bonds (totally unsecured, trash) are bought by the government using the "money" of the "people" we have ceased to have a market that rewards innovation and punishes ineptitude. There is no more risk so companies should make the crappiest decisions possible to increase short term reward to the stockholders. When things go bad stockholders win by making the money machine go brrrrrr....

So consider COVID a convenient excuse, replacing the "well, we have to elect Trump at any cost, so the US taxpayer should fund his re-erection".

The next logical step of course is for the government to only invest in "right" companies. The reason for this is we certainly wouldn't want money going to abortion clinics (R) or gun companies (D) or whatnot. At which point the only fundamental axiom that will matter to the "market" is that of political pull.

The depressing part is this outcome sits at the feet of the mighty 401k: Once you set the perception that if the "market" fails you will be eating dog food in retirement it simply becomes another socialized version of "social security". The fact that well connected people (ie: pull) will profit handsomely from this is simply a "cost of doing business".

I believe this is why the Republicans always wanted Social Security to be invested in the market. However they seem to have accomplished their goal by raiding SS funds and using the IOU's to fund the market anyway. Ah well....

Wonder if any free markets exist in the world, aside from bitcoin.

Well said.
legendary
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I fix broken miners. And make holes in teeth :-)
And India and China are going to war. Bullish for Bitcoin?
legendary
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I fix broken miners. And make holes in teeth :-)
401ks have become a complete scam, the people just don't realize it yet. They just believe what they are told by their parents, family members, and "financial experts". Why do you think that 401ks lock peoples money in until they are 65 years old? There is a huge reason for that.

Become? When were they not? 401k was always a way to get rid of pensions, which seemed to work (well as long as you don't change the rules in the middle of course) and in that scam they succeeded amazingly well. Remember, retirement is a negotiated item and term of employment, it's never a *gift*. You took that retirement agreement instead of taking more money.

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I guess you were asleep for 8 years while Obama and the Democrats were "raiding SS funds and using the IOU's to fund the market" ? Not saying they were the first though, both Rep and Dem administrations have been doing that for decades now. SS and pensions have become two of the largest Ponzi scams to date.

Use care, remember the R's happily created fake money (CDOs and such) in 2000-2008 and used that to "fund" the "economy". When that collapsed the hole was filled by the D's with fake printed money cash, but the debts were incurred under the friendly Bush administration.

I hold R's to a higher standard because they profess to be "fiscally responsible". Well, at least when they are not in power, of course.

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Nope.

Yeah. I wonder if prostitutes are subsidized by the Govt at this point. That used to be a pretty free market. Ah well.
legendary
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Next ~two week period difficulty adjustment in 5 blocks: +15% (!)
https://fork.lol/pow/retarget

I get T.B.D. with https://fork.lol/pow/retarget. The other site https://diff.cryptothis.com/ does not agree; probably too early to tell will get better estimates as date gets closer.
legendary
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Silver is anti bacterial, pretty magical but its for bad burns and difficult wounds that might go sceptic.   Ingesting silver or gold, I'm thinking of some case where a dude turned blue I think silver can prove toxic as it has some reaction.    Gold is used on food in Japan and a couple other places, imo dull but if any metal is going to be ok I guess its a non reactive one but silver we know does oxidize some.    Silver in tanks of water is used to slow down fungi growth, bacteria when we still had useful money i read the silver coins were used in bottles of milk to slow the spoil from bacteria.   I wouldnt eat one though :p
We still use silver based pills for water tanks in boats and campers. Hospitals use it in their water systems to fight certain diseases. It was used for holding drinking water even in ancient civilizations. Sailors threw silver coins in their water barrels.
legendary
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Good morning Bitcoinland.

Still stuck in the mid-$9xxx doldrums... currently $9555USD/$12915CAD (Bitcoinaverage).

Tumbling tumbleweeds. Need moar coffee please.

Nothing like M0ar corporate welfare to bail out the so called capitalist leaders of the world that can't stand on their own 2 feet.

Corporations are just collectivist organizations like banks, communist parties, unions, or religions.
Not all entities are the same, including what motivates their powers, even if in the media or legal system, they sometimes might be clumped as if they were the same thing.

Similar to bitcoin.. it is not the same as other coins, even though sometimes it is clumped as if it were the same.  Minor details that I do not have time, right now, to explain.  ...  Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy
legendary
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It is something else man it feels so good you all need to try some of that stuff but no I'll keep it to myself.  Grin

ummm...heroin?
legendary
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Beijing raised emergency response level II to III and closed all schools.


https://twitter.com/jenniferatntd/status/1272848701040537601

2020 will simply do not stop with surprises. I heard 30 Indian soldiers went missing yesterday. Only god knows what is the status today.
legendary
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Flippin' burgers since 1163.
Next ~two week period difficulty adjustment in 5 blocks: +15% (!)
https://fork.lol/pow/retarget
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legendary
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Silver is anti bacterial, pretty magical but its for bad burns and difficult wounds that might go sceptic.   Ingesting silver or gold, I'm thinking of some case where a dude turned blue I think silver can prove toxic as it has some reaction.    Gold is used on food in Japan and a couple other places, imo dull but if any metal is going to be ok I guess its a non reactive one but silver we know does oxidize some.    Silver in tanks of water is used to slow down fungi growth, bacteria when we still had useful money i read the silver coins were used in bottles of milk to slow the spoil from bacteria.   I wouldnt eat one though :p

BTC forming something of a top I think but if it is the case its a slow process not a fast decline.    I expected it to fall back to the 200 day average and have recovered already by now instead its slo mo & mostly sideways still.
  I have my theory that BTC only really moves greatly by consensus which is not the norm when its distributed around the world, by distance, time zone and national context so we all often disagree its worth to us personally.

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Great theory worth testing, does a mask produce lower levels of oxygen.   Surely we can test if it does prove an impediment without much further interpretation required just raw data collected with and without.
legendary
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https://twitter.com/100trillionusd/status/1272927578052067328?s=21
legendary
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Self-Custody is a right. Say no to"Non-custodial"
I am willing to take the risk. Wink

Golden rule: don't risk more than you could afford to lose.  Wink



Exactly, mindrust.

I see you are going back to basics.. which is not necessarily a bad thing... especially if you know that you had missed some basic lessons along the way, in your first 6.5 years investing into bitcoin.

Maybe in some time that is less than 6 years, you will be in a similar place to where you had been.... but even MOAR better, because you are starting from the beginning and getting rid of some of your old bad habits, presumably.. we hope...  We hope..


By the way, I feel a need to repeat myself; however, after a bit more than a year and a half of my having had invested into bitcoin, which would have been about July/August 2015 (right after the BTC price had shot up from the mid $200s to $317 and then largely corrected back below the mid $200s), I had decided that, at that point, it was o.k. (permissible) for me to invest a little bit extra into bitcoin (slightly beyond what I had considered to be an acceptable level of investment), so that I would feel comfortable selling a little bit of bitcoin once the BTC price would go up, presuming that at some point BTC prices would go up.... and yeah, by then we had been mostly bouncing around in the mid $200s for a considerable amount of time.. in spite of the one bounce above $300 in mid-July.

Sure, there was a bit of a presumption in my continuing to invest in bitcoin and developing a plan to overload my BTC investment a bit, so that at some point, I would feel comfortable skimming some off with the presumable upward movement of BTC's price that might have never come... I presumed based on some level of confidence that I had established by studying the space for more than a year and a half, that I was investing in something that had decent fundamentals and that at some point the BTC price was going to go up, yet at the same time, if the BTC price had continued to stay flat or to have gone down from its then $200s in 2015, I would have merely just continued dollar cost averaging buying.. but probably keeping my investment amounts very low because I had already felt that I had invested a lot into BTC and my then investment was floating around 50% in the negative when the BTC price was in the mid $200s because my costs per BTC were around $500.. but slowly coming down.. but still pretty damned high, relative to the then price...

Presumably, I was prepared to ride it all the way down to zero, even though I had only been tested to $150 in around late January 2015 and down to around $200 in late August 2015... So, yes, even those downward tests were gut wrenching.. and something that caused some test of my determination to ride the whole thing down to zero, if need be.. because I did not see any meaningful undermining of BTC's fundamentals in 2015 as compared to when I had started to invest in late 2013, and I saw the fundamentals to have been stronger in 2015... just like I see the fundamentals of BTC to be several magnitudes stronger than they were just a few years ago... even as compared to the late 2017 top of or then price spurt...

in other words, BTC seems to be fundamentally stronger today than it was in late 2017.. .. and sure you can believe otherwise, if you like and temper down your investment level to the level of your belief in the strength of BTC's fundamentals.   Like you said, don't be willing to invest more than you are willing to ride all the way down to the bottom, if need be... and hopefully, it does not come to that... hahahahahaha    Wink


Define risk. There for example is quite some risk getting more dollars for your bitcoin at a future date.
Some people don’t like taking that risk.

What Is Risk?
Risk is defined in financial terms as the chance that an outcome or investment's actual gains will differ from an expected outcome or return.

In my opinion risk usually translates into volatility on charts.

The more wildly it goes up and down, it means the more risky the asset is.

Not always but usually that.

Read the bold part, it means you may make more or less value than what you expected.

You seem to imply that risk of going to zero is different from volatility risk, which would be true, but at the same time you are convoluting the concepts (which would be erroneous thinking).

There are different tactics that BTC investors can take to protect themselves from volatility risk as compared to the risk of BTC going to zero.  Not investing more than you can afford to lose is one of the main ways to protect yourself from going to zero risk.

Buying on the way down, dollar cost averaging and selling on the way up are some of the better non-leveraged ways of lessening volatility risk (or taking advantage of volatility to profit from it, as long as BTC does not death spiral down to zero).

I am willing to take the risk. Wink
Golden rule: don't risk more than you could afford to lose.  Wink

Or take a good risk with insane fundamentals and potential... and adjust your lifestyle if things get difficult on the way

Indeed, If the fundamentals of the asset are stronk af, that's the route you should pick. Can't deny that.

But then, that's not taking risks if the you are 100% sure about the potential and the fundamentals of the asset (you know something that others don't) that is being clever than the rest. That's when you go all-in.

If there is one thing I am sure about, it is that I can't be 100% sure about anything.*  Grin %99.99 maybe, not 100%.

That means I am not sure about this* neither. Whoops.

Admit it.. you are barely even 50% sure... that's why you fucked up on March 12, and then doubled your fuck ups on subsequent days and still kind of fucking up because you are still having some troubles getting in touch with your own doubts that are compounded by your desires to gamble... which in your mind you are still gambling that BTC might go down to sub $3k, which will cause you to go all in.. or at least get some feelings of vindication (which is not very likely to happen, and you know that and continue to struggle with it.  That's why you bought 1 BTC at these prices last week-ish).  You fuck.... Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy


@mindrust: I'll say this, with good intentions:

I fear that you're going to feel really bad soon... To the point of going insane. Just try to prepare yourself psychologically for this eventuality.

I don't believe I will.

I mean I still got both my arms and legs, didn't get covid19 (yet), got some decent FIAT in my bank, still making money from my work, I don't expect to get struck by lightning soon neither, even though the possibility is not zero.

What if BTC goes to new ATH's? Why would I be mad about it? I already got some exposure there. If it goes up a lot, that's fine. It is free money anyway.

I didn't suicide for not buying btc from $100 even though I saw it exactly at that price. Why now...

No thanks I am fine, hopefully will  keep being fine.

Good point.  

My DCA strategy was going rock solid while I wasn't greedy, the moment my greed took over, It stopped working.

I have a new strategy now...

It will work unless it doesn't. I am not willing to share the results here though.

That might be a good idea.  We know too much.   Tongue Tongue


Though I do hope you buy back 1 coin and slowly buy when possible

I will get to 1 full coin. (at least) Not instantly but I will.

Good then your future is set

Not sure about it. To me, it is just another fun lottery ticket.  Grin I stopped being so obsessive with bitcoin or crypto. Chasing some other obsession now.  Grin

Found some other way to keep my brain busy.

In other words, you are still a lost puppy... at least when it comes to your understanding of bitcoin, even after you have had more time in the forum than me.  Might have to go back to AlcoHoDL's assessment that you are likely going to regret that you have lost your way in regards to understanding bitcoin and having a decently solid BTC investment strategy that would likely be more than just aspiring to 1 coin, especially if you had previously reached 10 (of course, then over bought and over extended, but 1/10th seems underexposed, but whatever, you have to decide that for yourselfie).
legendary
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The depressing part is this outcome sits at the feet of the mighty 401k: Once you set the perception that if the "market" fails you will be eating dog food in retirement it simply becomes another socialized version of "social security". The fact that well connected people (ie: pull) will profit handsomely from this is simply a "cost of doing business".
401ks have become a complete scam, the people just don't realize it yet. They just believe what they are told by their parents, family members, and "financial experts". Why do you think that 401ks lock peoples money in until they are 65 years old? There is a huge reason for that.

I believe this is why the Republicans always wanted Social Security to be invested in the market. However they seem to have accomplished their goal by raiding SS funds and using the IOU's to fund the market anyway. Ah well....
I guess you were asleep for 8 years while Obama and the Democrats were "raiding SS funds and using the IOU's to fund the market" ? Not saying they were the first though, both Rep and Dem administrations have been doing that for decades now. SS and pensions have become two of the largest Ponzi scams to date.

Wonder if any free markets exist in the world, aside from bitcoin.
Nope.
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Majority of sicknesses including Covid is nothing else as wrong nutrition.
Daily intake of about 70% alkaline and 30% acidic food and anyone is as strong as can be. Flu, Covid, Common Cold.... not a worry.

Like a 2 component glue if mix according to instruction its hold well, if mixed wrong and 90% hardener is used or something crazy it will break at first sign of stress.

Acidic food: Seafood, Meat, Cheese, Grains (Wheat, Rye, Rice..), pasteurized food, Milk, Pale Beer, Carbonated drinks (sparkling mineral water, Coke...)
Alkaline  food: Fruit, Vegetables, Herbs/Spices, natural fermented food, Honey, Some Nuts (Chest, Pine, Coco, Hazel, Macadamia), Wine, Draft Beer, Stout Beer, Coffee, Tea...

What else is Acidic, Face Mask as exhaled CO2 (acidic) is partly re-inhaled because mask prevent it from being proper exchanged for fresh oxygen.

Healthy blood pH is 7.35 - 7.45 slight alkali, 7 is neutral, 0 max acid, 14 max basic (alkali), log scale

 WTF kind of weird science are you on?  Last time I checked, the neutral level on the pH scale was 7.  Anything below was considered acidic and anything above was considered alkaline.  ALL fruits and vegetables have a pH of less than 7, most fruits are extremely acidic.  Did you just make this up today?  This is surreal.  Please stop "helping" us.

N.B. It's a good idea to eat fruits and veggies. Do not ingest glue and/or hardener or subject yourself to stresses that will break you.
disclaimer: I am not a pharmacist.


Isn't pseudoscience hilarious?

What's next? Colloidal silver cure-alls? Turmeric with cider vinegar for longevity? The anti-carcinogenic effects of chanting mantras?

I was already laughing before I even got to the part about fruits being alkaline. Lawl.

I think I prefer actual double blind controlled experimentation, analysis of the microbiological chemistry of pathogens, and development of blockers for necessary chemicals required by these pathogens.

Yes, good diet is important but that has nothing to do with pH hocus-pocus. It has more to do with a good variety of fresh foods in moderation, with minimal processing.

I am still laughing, will be for a little while.
Calling a multi year scientific study with 100000 participants, pseudoscience is someone who lost track of life and reality.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.54627232
legendary
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You're never too old to think young.
Majority of sicknesses including Covid is nothing else as wrong nutrition.
Daily intake of about 70% alkaline and 30% acidic food and anyone is as strong as can be. Flu, Covid, Common Cold.... not a worry.

Like a 2 component glue if mix according to instruction its hold well, if mixed wrong and 90% hardener is used or something crazy it will break at first sign of stress.

Acidic food: Seafood, Meat, Cheese, Grains (Wheat, Rye, Rice..), pasteurized food, Milk, Pale Beer, Carbonated drinks (sparkling mineral water, Coke...)
Alkaline  food: Fruit, Vegetables, Herbs/Spices, natural fermented food, Honey, Some Nuts (Chest, Pine, Coco, Hazel, Macadamia), Wine, Draft Beer, Stout Beer, Coffee, Tea...

What else is Acidic, Face Mask as exhaled CO2 (acidic) is partly re-inhaled because mask prevent it from being proper exchanged for fresh oxygen.

Healthy blood pH is 7.35 - 7.45 slight alkali, 7 is neutral, 0 max acid, 14 max basic (alkali), log scale

 WTF kind of weird science are you on?  Last time I checked, the neutral level on the pH scale was 7.  Anything below was considered acidic and anything above was considered alkaline.  ALL fruits and vegetables have a pH of less than 7, most fruits are extremely acidic.  Did you just make this up today?  This is surreal.  Please stop "helping" us.

N.B. It's a good idea to eat fruits and veggies. Do not ingest glue and/or hardener or subject yourself to stresses that will break you.
disclaimer: I am not a pharmacist.


Isn't pseudoscience hilarious?

What's next? Colloidal silver cure-alls? Turmeric with cider vinegar for longevity? The anti-carcinogenic effects of chanting mantras?

I was already laughing before I even got to the part about fruits being alkaline. Lawl.

I think I prefer actual double blind controlled experimentation, analysis of the microbiological chemistry of pathogens, and development of blockers for necessary chemicals required by these pathogens.

Yes, good diet is important but that has nothing to do with pH hocus-pocus. It has more to do with a good variety of fresh foods in moderation, with minimal processing.
legendary
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Beijing raised emergency response level II to III and closed all schools.


https://twitter.com/jenniferatntd/status/1272848701040537601
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