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January 19, 2020, 04:18:00 AM
January 19, 2020, 04:09:09 AM
So clearly today....
Turning back around to snooze another hour, This is fine
January 19, 2020, 04:04:17 AM
Sorry, but...
stupid analogy is stupid.
It would be one thing if BTC's 'innovations' were demonstrably, measurably better. However, even at this late date (two years?), how much value is being transacted on the 'improved' LN?
stupid analogy is stupid.
It would be one thing if BTC's 'innovations' were demonstrably, measurably better. However, even at this late date (two years?), how much value is being transacted on the 'improved' LN?
You're saying my analogy is stupid because LN isn't perfect yet? Were the first iterations of the electric car demonstrably, measurably better than regular cars? What's perhaps stupider is to decide a technology is a failure because it hasn't yet been perfected. Just like Bitcoin 0.1 wasn't perfect and the protocol has undergone several changes to fix dozens of problems since. Even after 10 years, its still not perfect.
Regardless, I'm not talking just about LN, I'm talking about all the changes that have taken place since Bitcoin 0.10 was first launched, the one that Craig says his Toyota Corolla is emulating.
Again with the conflation of Craig and BSV.
So far, the things he has been saying -- with regards to the BSV protocol itself -- is to bring it into further congruence with the initial satoshi protocol. Accordingly, all the other mutterings are but peripheral and irrelevant to the chain itself.
One does not need to believe any Craig <> prophet status in order to see the benefit of the direction of the BSV protocol.
So far, the things he has been saying -- with regards to the BSV protocol itself -- is to bring it into further congruence with the initial satoshi protocol. Accordingly, all the other mutterings are but peripheral and irrelevant to the chain itself.
One does not need to believe any Craig <> prophet status in order to see the benefit of the direction of the BSV protocol.
There is no conflation: BSV is Craig. Did BSV make its recent moves because people suddenly saw "the benefit of the direction of the BSV protocol"? No. BSV moves are always centered around Craig's scammy antics. Its a con game not much different than that played by those who profited during the rise of Bitconnect. If you wish to involve yourself in it, obviously nobody can stop you. Let's just not pretend BSV's recent relative successes are about the tech.
January 19, 2020, 03:57:38 AM
At $400k there won't be any normal people with bitcoins left probably. You won't be able to cash out even if you wanted to because you won't have any bitcoins.
?!
u r doing it rong
January 19, 2020, 03:49:34 AM
My second bullet further makes the point by saying that you believe it's irrelevant if faketoshi is Satoshi (but BSvers for some reason still need to follow his truest implementation)
It is irrelevant whether or not CSW is Satoshi precisely because the changes BSV is undergoing are bringing it closer to Satoshi's original protocol. We don't need Craig to dictate the direction because the whitepaper exists and because bitcoind 0.1 exists. We can read.
January 19, 2020, 03:43:22 AM
who fucking cares if what happens to be said about some other topic, such as a shitcoin bsv rises to the level of lies.. It does not matter.
So you openly admit to lies, and you pile on by stating that lying does not matter. Great. Paragon of virtue, our JJG.
I am NOT admitting anything. I am saying that your assertion that lies are being made here does not give you a free pass to troll and shill your stupid-ass off-topic support for that shitcoin BSV or any other shitcoin or other off-topical matter that you proclaim to be correcting purported lies.
Again with the dissembling admission.
It reflects poorly upon you, JJG.
January 19, 2020, 03:41:46 AM
You are a scammer
Being a scammer requires a victim. Who have I scammed, somac.? Name the aggrieved party or STFU.
The correct term is would-be scammer.
No but in all seriousness, there was a decent analogy given in one of the many BSV ANN threads about how attempting to recreate Bitcoin 0.1 is like attempting to recreate an early Ford automobile.
imagine Henry Ford, coming back from the grave telling Ford company that cars don't need AC/heater because that is not part of the original design..what cars need are bigger windows, actually might as well remove the windshield to let more air in LOL
Craig is claiming his car is a Ford Model T when in actuality under the hood its closer to a Toyota Corolla. If he wanted to recreate the Model T, he would have just cloned the Model T instead of including all the modernizations introduced in generations (builds) afterward.
To complete the analogy, modern Bitcoin (0.19) is more like a Ford Fusion sedan. It makes use of the latest innovations in the industry to deliver an advanced version of the original product, one that couldn't have been fathomable during Henry Ford's time.
If you want to be religious about it and say the Model T is the only true car, well have fun, but don't expect other people to follow.
To complete the analogy, modern Bitcoin (0.19) is more like a Ford Fusion sedan. It makes use of the latest innovations in the industry to deliver an advanced version of the original product, one that couldn't have been fathomable during Henry Ford's time.
If you want to be religious about it and say the Model T is the only true car, well have fun, but don't expect other people to follow.
Sorry, but...
stupid analogy is stupid.
It would be one thing if BTC's 'innovations' were demonstrably, measurably better. However, even at this late date (two years?), how much value is being transacted on the 'improved' LN?
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In short, adhering to BSV because one believes it more closely follows Satoshi's original protocol is much like a religion -- based on belief, and not much more. Its a religion every bit as much as Bitcoin (BTC) Maximalism is a religion.
Though as you say, there is some element of religiousity in either position.
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Personally I find Prophet Craig to be a false prophet as his teachings are unpalatable -- pretty much devoid of any sort of morals or ethics. However, if someone else wants to accept him as a True Prophet, well, not much I can do about that.
Again with the conflation of Craig and BSV.
So far, the things he has been saying -- with regards to the BSV protocol itself -- is to bring it into further congruence with the initial satoshi protocol. Accordingly, all the other mutterings are but peripheral and irrelevant to the chain itself.
One does not need to believe any Craig <> prophet status in order to see the benefit of the direction of the BSV protocol.
Thanks for the (surprisingly) balanced response.
January 19, 2020, 03:38:13 AM
January 19, 2020, 03:33:11 AM
Urgh. Tired of all this $9K. 
When 10K?
When 10K?
January 19, 2020, 03:16:34 AM
Spent plenty of time in Thailand in the past, haven't been there in years.
Maybe this won't be so easy, it is kinda obscure place to go. Here's better images of the boat, the locals, and the launch of a boat. Done in 30 knots of wind!
I'll add some of the monuments here if need be later.
Maybe this won't be so easy, it is kinda obscure place to go. Here's better images of the boat, the locals, and the launch of a boat. Done in 30 knots of wind!
I'll add some of the monuments here if need be later.
January 19, 2020, 02:58:02 AM
Good morning WO's, Indeed it is over $9000 looking at 9155 and climbing. This is fine.
Tet is coming soon and the karaoke parties are starting. I'm expecting prices to follow the celebrations of the next 10 days.
Friends and atmosphere all in place. Here's a shot of our back yard currently. Any sleuths out there find this? Shouldn't be terribly difficult.
Tet is coming soon and the karaoke parties are starting. I'm expecting prices to follow the celebrations of the next 10 days.
Friends and atmosphere all in place. Here's a shot of our back yard currently. Any sleuths out there find this? Shouldn't be terribly difficult.
Blue Lagoon, Thailand?
January 19, 2020, 02:46:07 AM
^
Damn it, it seemed too easy
Damn it, it seemed too easy
January 19, 2020, 02:21:18 AM
Good morning WO's, Indeed it is over $9000 looking at 9155 and climbing. This is fine.
Tet is coming soon and the karaoke parties are starting. I'm expecting prices to follow the celebrations of the next 10 days.
Friends and atmosphere all in place. Here's a shot of our back yard currently. Any sleuths out there find this? Shouldn't be terribly difficult.
Tet is coming soon and the karaoke parties are starting. I'm expecting prices to follow the celebrations of the next 10 days.
Friends and atmosphere all in place. Here's a shot of our back yard currently. Any sleuths out there find this? Shouldn't be terribly difficult.
Falassarna Beach, Crete, Greece
January 19, 2020, 02:17:20 AM
Personally, I've been noticing the estimates for the bubble tops decreasing. I recall in 2018, some popular tradingview and twitter guys were claiming we were just taking a breather on the way up to $400K. Now there seems to be a prevailing sentiment that we'll top out <=$100K on the next bubble. Who knows? There are so many different prediction models that are all supported by past data, but give wildly different future results. There's S2F, and other power law based models, various exponential models, basic TA models like yours and the one below, etc.
I'm leaning toward the S2F power law corridor, which would put us at $100K+ late next year. I intuitively feel this is too high, and the model is too aggressive. However, I've seen various models converging around $100K at the end of next year. Perhaps this will be the final bull market for bitcoin which results in 3,000%+ returns from the bottom. As you noted, the 80%+ drops have been continuing, so perhaps the huge volatility, while being a bit muted on the upside, will continue for at least one more cycle. The last 80% drop could've foreshadowed another massive bubble.
That reminds me, I just saw this posted on twitter yesterday:
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@Josh_Rager
$BTC Unpopular Opinion:
The next Bitcoin peak high will not be as high as most people think
Lots of analysis out there point from $100k to $300k to $1M
Simple rate of return will show you bottom to peak return reduces by around 20% each cycle
IMO, next high hits $75k to $85k
$BTC Unpopular Opinion:
The next Bitcoin peak high will not be as high as most people think
Lots of analysis out there point from $100k to $300k to $1M
Simple rate of return will show you bottom to peak return reduces by around 20% each cycle
IMO, next high hits $75k to $85k
https://twitter.com/Josh_Rager/status/1218265268243304449
These figures could be perfectly the new ATH, but to get to it, it has to have a lot of media noise in Bitcoin, the bottom is inside, the weak hands are outside, now we only have the hodlers that buy a small amount when a few hundred dollars falls, you need new BTC adopters for this and it may take a while.
January 19, 2020, 01:51:32 AM
Plan A has failed, it is time for "plan B"
https://www.tradingview.com/chart/BLX/LGfs4PUa-Bitcoin-A-Long-Tern-Market-Analysis/
See you at $100k in December.
https://www.tradingview.com/chart/BLX/LGfs4PUa-Bitcoin-A-Long-Tern-Market-Analysis/
See you at $100k in December.
January 19, 2020, 01:49:00 AM
Nice one!
Suggestion for Rule 8: The badger & screenshot shall be posted simultaneously in the same post. The [Edit] button shall never be used to add or modify anything after the post is made.
Looks like your game is going to end soon...
...and everyone's the winner!
I am thinking about that but... How can I detect if someone uses the edit button in the grace period? Is there a way?
Or maybe I should just add it to the rules and trust in the good faith of participants as this is just for fun and the prize is trivial/irrelevant.
If I remember correctly, when you visit the forum without logging in, you see all the edits in the posts with the time of the edition.
The fastest and safest thing is for someone to quote the supposed winner quickly.
edit: Forget it, there are 10 minutes to edit the publication without seeing that it has been edited.
January 19, 2020, 01:47:02 AM
Let's say you come up with $1million as nice round number. Again, this could as low as $500K in some countries and just for a very modest lifestyle up to $5 million for US, with many years to live, and with a nice lifestyle.
Daym you need $5m to live in the US?
Even becoming a hnwi is not enough? Fuuck.
Should have gone all in
(aimed for the head) January 19, 2020, 01:46:20 AM
Good morning WO's, Indeed it is over $9000 looking at 9155 and climbing. This is fine.
Tet is coming soon and the karaoke parties are starting. I'm expecting prices to follow the celebrations of the next 10 days.
Friends and atmosphere all in place. Here's a shot of our back yard currently. Any sleuths out there find this? Shouldn't be terribly difficult.
Tet is coming soon and the karaoke parties are starting. I'm expecting prices to follow the celebrations of the next 10 days.
Friends and atmosphere all in place. Here's a shot of our back yard currently. Any sleuths out there find this? Shouldn't be terribly difficult.
Falassarna Beach, Crete, Greece
January 19, 2020, 12:37:25 AM
6) I am unsure if I should enforce the rule of posting a screen capture of Bitstamp chart to make sure the price has already just been been crossed. I accept suggestions about this [...]
Nice game bitserve
Think the easiest work around to 'cheating' with the forum post timestamp, is requiring the Badger and Bitstamp Price to be in a single screenshot.
This can be easily achieved using Snipping Tool (Windows), Shift-Command-4 (Mac), Shift+Prt Scrn (Ubuntu).
The above method as well avoids making OPSEC mistakes: screenshot of open tabs, desktop, etc.
January 19, 2020, 12:13:03 AM
It's official. Nazi Chads use BTC. Nazi beta cucks use silver. 
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