What the Ffffff
He's crashing planes now!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NHVGlIEA8nA&pp=ygUNcGlsb3QgZGVicmllZg%3D%3D
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January 22, 2025, 10:57:52 PM
He's crashing planes now!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NHVGlIEA8nA&pp=ygUNcGlsb3QgZGVicmllZg%3D%3D
January 22, 2025, 10:13:25 PM
What the Ffffff
January 22, 2025, 10:01:16 PM
January 22, 2025, 09:57:41 PM
His confiscated coins are legally, officially, lost (to him) forever.
The issue is: has he got some secret stash somewhere? Does he still hold the keys to it?
A Coinbase snoop is suggesting he located some coins that may be old Silk Road treasure.
It still remains to be seen if it's like he says - and if Ross manages to lay hands on them.
If I were Ross, I would only attempt that when safely far from the USA.
The issue is: has he got some secret stash somewhere? Does he still hold the keys to it?
A Coinbase snoop is suggesting he located some coins that may be old Silk Road treasure.
It still remains to be seen if it's like he says - and if Ross manages to lay hands on them.
If I were Ross, I would only attempt that when safely far from the USA.
If I had to bet... There is a higher than 50% probability that he has some coins "here and there". And what was once considered "peanuts", more so by someone who was making millions of $ at the time, can have an astronomical value nowadays.
Maybe he could have some "anonymous" donations sent to him... but surely the origin of those coins would be very well scrutinized. Also I am not so sure it is so easy to be "safely far from the USA" (See Roger Ver and the "exit tax") but....
Doesn't the pardon apply to every and all things related to his case? If that was the case (I don't know) maybe he would just need to "produce" them now (or as he is gradually able to remember how to recover control of those coins) and pay his share of taxes and call it a day?
If they haven't already seized his coins from before the conviction, I'm sure they can still go after his stash, anywhere in the world:
https://www.zerohedge.com/political/no-free-pass-unintended-consequences-presidential-pardons
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But even if those pardoned avoid criminal charges, the U.S. government has robust mechanisms for recovering money or property obtained through illegal activities, such as bribery or fraud. These include civil remedies like claims of unjust enrichment, which allow the government or private parties to argue that an individual improperly benefited from unlawful actions and demand repayment.
For instance, under the legal doctrine of unjust enrichment, courts can compel individuals to repay funds acquired through unlawful means, ensuring that financial accountability can still be pursued despite the absence of criminal penalties.
Another potent tool at the government’s disposal is civil asset forfeiture. Unlike criminal forfeiture, which requires a criminal conviction, civil forfeiture targets the assets themselves rather than the individual. Moreover, unlike criminal law, where the government must prove its case “beyond a reasonable doubt,” civil forfeiture requires only a “preponderance of the evidence” to establish that the assets are connected to illegal activity. As a result, even individuals who have been pardoned can still have their assets seized if they are linked to the offences for which they were pardoned.
Civil forfeiture has been used extensively in cases involving bribery, fraud, and other financial crimes. For instance, if an individual received bribes to secure a government contract, the funds or property obtained through those bribes could be subject to forfeiture, even if the individual is no longer criminally liable.
For instance, under the legal doctrine of unjust enrichment, courts can compel individuals to repay funds acquired through unlawful means, ensuring that financial accountability can still be pursued despite the absence of criminal penalties.
Another potent tool at the government’s disposal is civil asset forfeiture. Unlike criminal forfeiture, which requires a criminal conviction, civil forfeiture targets the assets themselves rather than the individual. Moreover, unlike criminal law, where the government must prove its case “beyond a reasonable doubt,” civil forfeiture requires only a “preponderance of the evidence” to establish that the assets are connected to illegal activity. As a result, even individuals who have been pardoned can still have their assets seized if they are linked to the offences for which they were pardoned.
Civil forfeiture has been used extensively in cases involving bribery, fraud, and other financial crimes. For instance, if an individual received bribes to secure a government contract, the funds or property obtained through those bribes could be subject to forfeiture, even if the individual is no longer criminally liable.
January 22, 2025, 09:40:41 PM
January 22, 2025, 09:01:13 PM
January 22, 2025, 08:01:13 PM
January 22, 2025, 07:16:28 PM
The kraken donation to Ross ulbrich seems a nice gesture
https://x.com/krakenfx/status/1882145752303993342?s=46
https://x.com/krakenfx/status/1882145752303993342?s=46
can't be the only one who thinks it's just a publicity stunt for their exchange?
You probably are, Kraken is the only Us Facing exchange I know of that has the Balls to still list Monero.
January 22, 2025, 07:01:15 PM
January 22, 2025, 06:25:48 PM
Support Ross by grabbing some Silk Road merchandise from Strike. 100% of the proceeds are going to Ross Ulbricht to help him get started with his life post-prison. I grabbed myself a hoodie and think everyone else should grab a little something as well. Everyone here owes Ross a debt of gratitude.
https://store.strike.me/
https://store.strike.me/
I reckon he'll be just fine...
Probably already got a Netflix special lined up
Not to mention the crowdfunding his family and friends lost no time to get started to help him get back into life..
I applaud the fact altoid got out after +10yrs served, but running a crowdfunding for him seems a bit disturbing to me, I mean he just got the gift of 2x life + like 30 yrs just like this, seems a bit grifty to me to immediately start collecting money from folks.
Not sure I can really approve the concept of these random, politically opportune pardons but it seems like something that is done in kingdoms by the king - and to be fair the former king abused this privilege in a similar disgusting way by pardoning his whole gang last minute..
Still, it's good he's free, though countless others didn't have the luck of a pardon.
January 22, 2025, 06:10:54 PM
Everyone is super bullish..Armstrong and Saylor talks millions/btc.
Mr. Market: "Eh?... I'll give you +1%, then -1%, then +0.5%, then -0.5%...etc. I hope that's enough."
Hilarious.
EDIT: who knows, maybe it would be like 2017: Jan 1 $998, Mar 26- $966 aka flat to down for ~3mo, then $966 to $19497 on Dec 16 aka 20.18X in 8 mo 20 days (about 40-41% up, monthly
Mr. Market: "Eh?... I'll give you +1%, then -1%, then +0.5%, then -0.5%...etc. I hope that's enough."
Hilarious.
EDIT: who knows, maybe it would be like 2017: Jan 1 $998, Mar 26- $966 aka flat to down for ~3mo, then $966 to $19497 on Dec 16 aka 20.18X in 8 mo 20 days (about 40-41% up, monthly
January 22, 2025, 06:01:13 PM
January 22, 2025, 05:12:23 PM
The kraken donation to Ross ulbrich seems a nice gesture
https://x.com/krakenfx/status/1882145752303993342?s=46
https://x.com/krakenfx/status/1882145752303993342?s=46
can't be the only one who thinks it's just a publicity stunt for their exchange?
January 22, 2025, 05:01:13 PM
January 22, 2025, 04:40:22 PM
Assange and Snowden are enemies of the nation and a threat to national security, and I don't believe that any president would decide to pardon them - unless he immediately released them to an angry mob to publicly lynch them.
Nonsense. Informing the public about government collusion against the people is a noble pursuit. If anything, Snowden should be awarded the Congressional Medal of Honor for service to the American people.
I just wonder who will do all that dirty and hard work when millions are deported to Mexico, El Salvador, Guatemala, Venezuela..
People expecting to be paid much more. Skyrocketing food prices anyone?
Dumpster doesn't always think things through.
January 22, 2025, 04:25:58 PM
His confiscated coins are legally, officially, lost (to him) forever.
The issue is: has he got some secret stash somewhere? Does he still hold the keys to it?
A Coinbase snoop is suggesting he located some coins that may be old Silk Road treasure.
It still remains to be seen if it's like he says - and if Ross manages to lay hands on them.
If I were Ross, I would only attempt that when safely far from the USA.
The issue is: has he got some secret stash somewhere? Does he still hold the keys to it?
A Coinbase snoop is suggesting he located some coins that may be old Silk Road treasure.
It still remains to be seen if it's like he says - and if Ross manages to lay hands on them.
If I were Ross, I would only attempt that when safely far from the USA.
If I had to bet... There is a higher than 50% probability that he has some coins "here and there". And what was once considered "peanuts", more so by someone who was making millions of $ at the time, can have an astronomical value nowadays.
Maybe he could have some "anonymous" donations sent to him... but surely the origin of those coins would be very well scrutinized. Also I am not so sure it is so easy to be "safely far from the USA" (See Roger Ver and the "exit tax") but....
Doesn't the pardon apply to every and all things related to his case? If that was the case (I don't know) maybe he would just need to "produce" them now (or as he is gradually able to remember how to recover control of those coins) and pay his share of taxes and call it a day?
January 22, 2025, 04:01:14 PM
January 22, 2025, 03:40:31 PM
The kraken donation to Ross ulbrich seems a nice gesture
https://x.com/krakenfx/status/1882145752303993342?s=46
https://x.com/krakenfx/status/1882145752303993342?s=46
January 22, 2025, 03:01:09 PM
January 22, 2025, 02:44:42 PM
When a government says we must do (bla bla bla)
to avoid a World Trade Center type event it works.
So in a way those particular terrorists acted as every countries advertisement for oppression. Sad but true.
I wholeheartedly agree. They only managed to make our lives more complicated. Easiest example? Think of security checks at airports - how they became unbearable. Besides, of course, providing excuses for control freak governments to do essentially whatever they fancy with basic civil liberties. And what did they obtain for their cause? Bombings and international hostility for whatever has "Muslim" in its name.to avoid a World Trade Center type event it works.
So in a way those particular terrorists acted as every countries advertisement for oppression. Sad but true.
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A proper attack is not a World Trade Center attack but a Luigi precise attack.
Word.Let the relevant individuals live in justified terror - not everyone else. They could have gained half of the popular support Luigi seems to still have.
Let us not forget that Luigi stated no bombings so as to protect the innocent. A woman stood less than five feet from that shooting and fully witnessed it . Luigi did not even point his gun at her in the least.
I can only say I would never have the courage to be a Luigi.
Maybe in 24 years time Luigi will be forgotten or maybe he will be seen as the turning point for humanity.
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