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Topic: Wall Observer - MtGoxUSD wall movement tracker - page 1178. (Read 1811605 times)

legendary
Activity: 2198
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20k wall has gone!
rally time?
online ppl on btcchart is increasing

You can bet he'll be back with his 20kBTC, and if he's waiting to sell it for more, then he'll probably have to sell into the bids; and my guess is that when he does that he'll accept significant slippage on the downside because he's going to try to sell at a top.  Whatever price rises we're in store for, if any, are probably going to be nothing more than an illusion.

sr. member
Activity: 387
Merit: 250
20k wall has gone!
rally time?
online ppl on btcchart is increasing
legendary
Activity: 2198
Merit: 1311
There is no manipulator.  The ask wall is there because its owner is hoping to sell 20k+ bitcoins at that price.

Thanks for being so patient and trying to teach people.

Guys, this is perfectly normal. 21k BTC at 6.75 USD, if he bought within the last months around 5.2, give over 32k USD profit in a relatively short time. We're talking a potential 30% short-term profit here! Even if everyone is quite bullish, why in the world would people be surprised? If nobody were to do such offers, wouldn't that be more reason to worry? In fact, current volume is somewhat lower, not higher, than I'd have expected.

Feel free to be bullish, the market is hard to read right now so I have no complaints, but expecting that no one would take profits is unreasonable.

Exactly.  As soon as the price starts going up a bunch of people start talking as if nobody will ever take profits, or people won't realize profits until they double, or triple, or quadruple their investment.  That is a large part of what happened last year, and it was unhealthy.

The fact is, the price simply is not going to shoot up like it did last year, because people are competing to take profits now.  The asks are never going to run out, and, in fact, the higher the price goes the more difficult it will be for it to go higher, because it'll take ever more money to move the same absolute distances on the price line.  The guy who buys 20kBTC at $6.75 is probably going to put those things up for sale at $8.something and realize an incredible return compared to most other markets.  And there's probably some guy with a load of bitcoins bought at $6.something who'll toss them up at $7.something and put a stopper on frenzied buying toward $8.

Since the 2012 high, I expect bitcoin growth to be much slower and much less dramatic than it has in the past, and that makes me feel more optimistic for its success.  Mark my words, in 2013 we'll still be visiting single digit prices (and I'm not even factoring hacks and other disruptive shitstorms into that assessment).
member
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There is no manipulator.  The ask wall is there because its owner is hoping to sell 20k+ bitcoins at that price.

Thanks for being so patient and trying to teach people.

Guys, this is perfectly normal. 21k BTC at 6.75 USD, if he bought within the last months around 5.2, give over 32k USD profit in a relatively short time. We're talking a potential 30% short-term profit here! Even if everyone is quite bullish, why in the world would people be surprised? If nobody were to do such offers, wouldn't that be more reason to worry? In fact, current volume is somewhat lower, not higher, than I'd have expected.

Feel free to be bullish, the market is hard to read right now so I have no complaints, but expecting that no one would take profits is unreasonable.

Well, being half a normal day's volume, it should help slow the march up....today. Seriously, I'd like to see a cooler sustained burn than a overnight rocket.
legendary
Activity: 1036
Merit: 1002
There is no manipulator.  The ask wall is there because its owner is hoping to sell 20k+ bitcoins at that price.

Thanks for being so patient and trying to teach people.

Guys, this is perfectly normal. 21k BTC at 6.75 USD, if he bought within the last months around 5.2, give over 32k USD profit in a relatively short time. We're talking a potential 30% short-term profit here! Even if everyone is quite bullish, why in the world would people be surprised? If nobody were to do such offers, wouldn't that be more reason to worry? In fact, current volume is somewhat lower, not higher, than I'd have expected.

Feel free to be bullish, the market is hard to read right now so I have no complaints, but expecting that no one would take profits is unreasonable.
legendary
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legendary
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Away on an extended break
I saw the dump just now. Seems the market held well. Smiley
legendary
Activity: 1904
Merit: 1002
Oh I see. Well Putting a big sell order up like that discourages me from buying, because it will take a lot of "work" to tear down the wall. Which means following the path of least resistance is downwards a bit. But then again from what I've seen the past two weeks walls can come and go and I even saw a buy wall get sold into so what do I know.

Surely it's nicer to buy knowing you'll be able to buy at a definite price into that wall? Would you rather buy without the wall and as you buy see the price continue to go up so you end up buying some of your coins at a higher price?

That depends on the volume you are looking to trade.
vip
Activity: 571
Merit: 504
I still <3 u Satoshi
This ask wall pleases me.
mav
full member
Activity: 169
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Oh I see. Well Putting a big sell order up like that discourages me from buying, because it will take a lot of "work" to tear down the wall. Which means following the path of least resistance is downwards a bit. But then again from what I've seen the past two weeks walls can come and go and I even saw a buy wall get sold into so what do I know.

Surely it's nicer to buy knowing you'll be able to buy at a definite price into that wall? Would you rather buy without the wall and as you buy see the price continue to go up so you end up buying some of your coins at a higher price?
full member
Activity: 238
Merit: 100
The ask wall is there to scare people into selling so the manipulator can accumulate before breaking $7.2. We're in an upward channel in a strong trend.

There is no manipulator.  The ask wall is there because its owner is hoping to sell 20k+ bitcoins at that price.

How could I tell if its someone attempting to manipulate the market, or just selling their btc? You seem very knowledgeable and I'm looking to learn.


the wall gets tested with a few hunders coins
if it holds then ya... someone really does want to sell and its not a "fake wall"
but i think even the "fake walls" are real, they just got scared and pulled out, trying to get a better price
after you've looked at and traded on the market, you'll start see that... believe it or not the bids and asks are people trying to buy or sell.

and all my experience tells me 1 of 2 things will happen now

the wall gets bought and we keep going up
OR
the books are flipped and we start going down


if you see more asks pill up...


Oh I see. Well Putting a big sell order up like that discourages me from buying, because it will take a lot of "work" to tear down the wall. Which means following the path of least resistance is downwards a bit. But then again from what I've seen the past two weeks walls can come and go and I even saw a buy wall get sold into so what do I know.
legendary
Activity: 1904
Merit: 1037
Trusted Bitcoiner


it would seem that volume is going up along with price

to me this screams legit correction and not manipulation.

i think we are very close too but haven't found the top, and the bottom is a hell of alot closer then most think

stabilize at 6 point crazy for a while, and then move up and over 8, and then a slow and steady drop to 6 dot ridiculous

my money is waiting for 6 dot ridiculous  Wink

legendary
Activity: 1904
Merit: 1037
Trusted Bitcoiner
The ask wall is there to scare people into selling so the manipulator can accumulate before breaking $7.2. We're in an upward channel in a strong trend.

There is no manipulator.  The ask wall is there because its owner is hoping to sell 20k+ bitcoins at that price.

How could I tell if its someone attempting to manipulate the market, or just selling their btc? You seem very knowledgeable and I'm looking to learn.


the wall gets tested with a few hunders coins
if it holds then ya... someone really does want to sell and its not a "fake wall"
but i think even the "fake walls" are real, they just got scared and pulled out, trying to get a better price
after you've looked at and traded on the market, you'll start see that... believe it or not the bids and asks are people trying to buy or sell.

and all my experience tells me 1 of 2 things will happen now

the wall gets bought and we keep going up
OR
the books are flipped and we start going down


if you see more asks pill up...
full member
Activity: 238
Merit: 100
The ask wall is there to scare people into selling so the manipulator can accumulate before breaking $7.2. We're in an upward channel in a strong trend.

There is no manipulator.  The ask wall is there because its owner is hoping to sell 20k+ bitcoins at that price.

How could I tell if its someone attempting to manipulate the market, or just selling their btc? You seem very knowledgeable and I'm looking to learn.
legendary
Activity: 2198
Merit: 1311
The ask wall is there to scare people into selling so the manipulator can accumulate before breaking $7.2. We're in an upward channel in a strong trend.

There is no manipulator.  The ask wall is there because its owner is hoping to sell 20k+ bitcoins at that price.
legendary
Activity: 1050
Merit: 1000
@$6.75 wall - not surprised one bit

will be fun to watch what happens next
legendary
Activity: 1904
Merit: 1037
Trusted Bitcoiner
how to you get to see from 2$ to 12$?

That's not GoxLive, It's BTCcharts.

i didn't like BTCcharts because i found it was to zoomed in Tongue
legendary
Activity: 2408
Merit: 1009
Legen -wait for it- dary
how to you get to see from 2$ to 12$?

That's not GoxLive, It's BTCcharts.
legendary
Activity: 826
Merit: 1001
rippleFanatic
The ask wall is there to scare people into selling so the manipulator can accumulate before breaking $7.2. We're in an upward channel in a strong trend.
legendary
Activity: 1778
Merit: 1008
I'm sure there's more where that came from.  This have been too positive lately.  I wouldn't even be surprised to see the order book flip around.

agreed. i love rising bitcoin price, but too quickly and too much means it scares people and makes things unstable.
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