Topic: Wardrick scammed me out of $110 - page 5. (Read 7140 times)

The scenario that came to mind was: Wardrick contacts the guy selling the Starbucks giftcards. Wardrick knows that the cards are carded but proceeds to buy them anyways. Gets the cards, cashes them out, then comes back to bitcointalk to claim that they were carded. Now OP is being attacked by people who do not like carding. Now, the OP must suffer while Wardrick is out flashing around his newfound $500 wealth of Starbucks.

OR Wardrick is really naive and thought that they were legit. Now he is coming back to report that the cards were carded.

LOOL BURNNN.


I would agree with Wardrick in this situation. phamm didn't even tell of the payments whatsoever. Looks like he went first and somewhat for free.


Then again, he carded those starbucks cards so they really weren't worth anything anyways.

You assume that I am using shill accounts whenever anyone disagrees with you.

I would ask why you created a brand new account to sell carded Starbucks gift cards. Why don't you use your "main" account?

@Quickseller why dont you go use your original account instead of using shill accounts?


needFREElunch
All of a sudden this account decides to comment on this post after 25 days of inactivity lol? I dont think the real person of this account is interested in this case because from looking at previous posts, he/she is only interested about mining and bitcoin price since he/she registered.

Very obvious lmao

Another shill account of yours
https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/abitnut-331100

I wonder how many other shills you got here and posted on here to defend your butthole fucking buddy Wardrick.

Wardrick youre the low-life scum here
Youre making things difficult and twisting things around to avoid paying me $110 or at least return 5 $100 cards?
Im not even a scammer. You took my product and used it and if you aren't going to pay for it then at least return them back in the same condition.

and fuck you and quickseller for abusing the trust system by ganging up on me and leaving me negative feedbacks

can't you settle this on phone instead of forums?

I think it would be more accurate to say that Wardrick expressed interest in the gift cards and then jamesphamm33 immediately sent the codes to him. No deal was made, no terms were negotiated. jamesphamm33 was clearly trying to get rid of the codes as quickly as possible and apparently forgot to include a clause that he would receive funds immediately for stolen gift cards.

Wardrick, you thought they were legit starbucks cards? Come on man....

So to sum things up: jamesphamm33 sent cards to Wardrick even though there were no terms. Wardrick used or cancelled the cards and refuses to pay. Why not just ignore the PMs and not use the cards period? Am I missing something here?

It's not that you are the same people but similar situation.

BigBitz sent KingOfSports bitcoins, KOS claims there were not terms so refuses to send them back, people call KOS a scammer

james sent giftcards to Ward, Ward claims there were no terms refuses to send bitcoin, james calls Ward a scammer

LOL
Yea, very clear you guys are butt fucking buddies licking each other's butthole.

Quickseller 0: -0 / +6(6)   2015-01-30   0.00000000      tried to scam Wardrick by selling him carded starbucks gift cards then demanding payment prior to being able to receive goods from them
Wardrick -1: -1 / +5(5)   2015-01-29   0.00000000      Admittedly selling stolen goods trying to pawn them off as legitimate. Liar and Scum bag.

I didn't scam or lie anything here? Wardrick is scamming me by not holding up to his agreement.

LOL

In the end, YOU used my cards and emptied them out. And stop accusing me of lying. I didn't lie about anything here or twist anything. I provided everything here and you didnt. You owe me 5 $100 cards back or $110BTC.

@Quickseller, stop spamming in my post. You have your own issues you need to take care of. https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/account-hacked-help-plz-741302
And stay out of it. Its very clear you and Wardrick are butt buddies on this forum and kiss each other's assholes lmao

@Wardrick Stop using the "Oh, the cards were fraudulent, so I'm not paying you. etc etc." You used up my cards and all those cards are empty now. So I am left with 5 empty cards and a loss of $110.  I never stated if cards were legitimate or not on my sale post. And this isnt a matter of if the cards are legitimate cards or not. YOU USED UP ALL THE BALANCES ON MY CARD AND DIDNT PAY ME. We came to an agreement you will pay me once you use up the cards after arguing about payment. So now the cards has been used up by you and I still didn't get paid. It's simple as that. Stop bringing up the legitimacy of cards to get out of paying $110. The cards I sold you worked and credited out.

And fuck you for leaving me negative feedback. That's a clear example of the abuse of the trust system on this forum. lol. You are the scumbag here not me. Im left hanging without my money and a negative feedback by this scumbag. Just great

Both sides are "right" with this accusation. If someone is asking about your gift cards, you don't immediately send over the code and demand a payment. Its like visiting an open-house, and then giving you the keys to the house and calling you a scammer if you don't pay it back. On the other hand (I haven't been following really this thread so I don't know if this was answered), if you empty the balance after he sends it to you, and you don't pay for it, its not fair to the seller.

Where the hell would you get that assumption from? Spam.

@rockminer I was just using it as an example as sometimes in order for the order to go through it can take up to that long. I've never held a payment for that long as I use the codes immediately and is usually the day or day after unless something like this happens.

@quickseller exactly, there's not any reason to send a payment for something that's invalid. basically like selling a car for $1000 and not saying there's anything wrong with it and it breaks down the next day because it's a piece of junk with broken parts.

This is just a sad attempt of trying to lie to twist the story to try to get money. I can provide all the proof for this trade, however I don't think its really necessary to waste the time as its already pretty clear what this low life is trying to do.

Why does it take 5 days to use the codes?  Place your order online at starbucks.com, or go to the store, get new cards, buy them with these cards.

Either way, you shouldn't hold this guys payment hostage for 5 days.  If you wnted to wait until you ordered and the items shipped, then that is reasonable.  But 5 days?  Thats a little outlandish.

I am not judging either of you, I don't know either of you, and the OP shouldn't have just made the assumption he was getting paid instantly, especially when he just sent codes.  On the same hand, when Wardrick transferred balances, he was basically saying he wanted them.  Maybe Wardrick can place his order, so that OP can be paid, or OP can be called out that the codes did not work, instead of waiting to use them?  

2.953% of scammers drink coffee....but 94.934% own starbucks cards, haha (Sorry, had to percentages in there to follow the theme)

While there are a number of differences...
Wardrick = KingOfSports
jamesphamm33 = BigBitz

So you are admitting that the gift cards are carded?

There is no reason why he would owe you money if he tried to redeem them for actual goods but was unable to do so. When you are selling a $500 gift card it is implied that the purchaser would be able to buy $500 worth of merchandize from the store the gift card is for

Either way you knew what these cards were and went forth with using them and emptied them out. You went forth with ordering stuff just in case you actually get something ordered to you. At the end of the day, these cards were redeemed and emptied out by you. I am left with 5 cards with $0 balances and not paid still. These cards are still valid and not closed so it is still in working condition.

No I didn't message you when I saw you used them up. I checked first and saw all the balances were still there and I message you to tell you I wanted them back but 5 hours later you used them.

And you've been buying gift cards for a while and this is your first time buying starbucks gift cards? Yea that's very believable

This is everything what happened:

Wardrick sent me a message:  "Hi I'm interested in $500 Starbucks, you can check my threads and decide whether or not you want to send the codes first. I don't use escrow for code trades. Thanks"

Yes, I sent him 5 cards first without discussing anything into details but he initiated by saying he wanted 5 cards and want me to send him the code first. So I checked his reputation and sent him codes first.

Then we argued back and forth about payment and came to conclusion that he will pay me once he use up the cards.
20 hours later, I changed my mind to tell him I will take my cards back but he was offline at this point and I noticed 5 hours later it has been redeemed. So at this point I expected him to pay me since the cards has been redeemed and emptied out.

In short words, he took my cards, redeemed them and emptied all $500 and left me hanging without payment. He used them up before the cards closed down or came to any problems so in the end he credited out $500 and did not pay me. This isnt a matter of if cards are legit or not. He used up all the balances and didn't pay.

so either get me 5 cards with $100 in each or pay me $110

a user can be changed. I do not know why the people are screaming on forum. do you really think that something it will happen?

First of all, you never told me you created this thread. Secondly, you sent me the codes without confirming any information, I told you about four times to take them back and then once you see that I had used them, you message me and say you won't take them back. I told you over and over again that you're trading on my terms if you're going to send something to me without discussing the details. I've been buying gift cards for awhile and I'm not about to be flagged for using illegal gift cards and the order was cancelled and the funds should be back on the card if they were obtained legally, which looking at how you've acted I highly doubt. There's not really much else to say, you're just a scammer looking to make a quick buck and that gets mad when he can't.

Edit 2/1: Here's all the proof:

http://imgur.com/de5Q9sW
http://imgur.com/XA8zJJI
http://imgur.com/KKpjUpK

Stealing stolen goods... Oh boy.