Topic: Account Hacked Help Plz! (Read 15002 times)

Why do you come back here a year later? It was already known that you sold the account. Already had messages and everything clearing up the misunderstanding. If you sold your account and trying to recover it, it's basically a scam. You just see that you can make shitloads more if you do sig campaigns.

Just give up on it.

Within that time, you could've made that account you have a senior member. In fact, you can make your account a senior member if you post enough. Just give it up.

Im neither the seller or the buyer but im the one who started this thread and im still here! 







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Just thought i would leave this here. I took this snapshot from scam accusations!
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=884261.20

The current operator of the zedicus account said something important in that thread.
He said that Quickseller posted in the hacked account thread i made before the account was sold!



https://i.imgur.com/q5m1PJw.png

This below is a screenshot of a PM from my inbox!!

At that point i was clueless as to what my account actually fetched.
In my mind i was thinking like $5-10 or something ..
Little did i know my account fetched over a btc.

Nonetheless i offered to pay for the return of my account and this is what he responded!

Im not sure "when" the current operator of the zedicus account bought it to do the signature campaign but "Quickseller" is a scammer.

 He knew well and good the account was stolen and sold it to him anyway.

Quickseller "posted" in my hacked account thread as "Zedicus" BEFORE my account was sold.

https://i.imgur.com/E732kt3.png




Without a shadow of a doubt, Quickseller is a 100% scammer!

And dead. I don't think both the buyer and seller needs the account or BTC anymore, I am sure that they have bought a new account and got the ROI or they just left silently.

   -MZ

Nope, It has not been resolved yet. This issue remains open.

Very interesting read was this ever resolved

Wow!!!
This was a very interesting read.

FIFY

I think that is more realistic then to expect me to pay the new owner of zedicus so a scammer can have his account that he sold me back. Either way whatever happens is between the person who now owns zedicus and bayuo, if they want to make a deal they can do so themselves (hopefully involving escrow). I plan on staying out of it

I think the real owner will have to pay Quickseller to make the trade.

   ~~MZ~~

Quickseller should just refund the account buyer using escrow and the new owner should give the account back to original owner. Then all parties would be happy.

Before i even look at that thread just answer me this one question?

On aug 20 i asked quickseller to prove he was in control of my account .. I then got a PM from YOU via my Zedicus account asking me to pm you via the Quickseller account!  Why would you do that? Clearly it has lead me to believe you and Quickseller are in cahoots or one in the same person! Why would you do that??  



Before you answer, the first post you made in this thread was a lie! You claimed it was a new low for scammers and someone was trying to steal your account! https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.8376811


Then after 23 days of lying you suddenly changed your tune and Tomoatoecage called you out on it!! ( Tomatoecage replied "thanks for letting us know the account was purchased")
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.8734620




Then you lied about being the victim when clearly you actually had the conversation with Quickseller regarding the validity of the account he claimed was his without a signed msg from the original owner! --> ME
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.8887615


If he promised you it was all good and there was nothing to worry about ...you definitely had that talk. You asked him for proof of ownership and with nothing but an empty promise in lieu of a signed msg you agreed to purchase the account. ( You had a choice )


Why would you lie. Instead of claiming i was a scammer, why wasnt your first post in this thread a simple statement saying you purchased the account from Quickseller? Why Lie?

Why when i asked Quickseller to prove he was in control of my account .. YOU replied in pm via the Zedicus account asking me to pm you via Quickseller?

Why would you do that? If it was you wouldnt that lead you to believe you were dealing with the same person?

Why would you do that?

Now im supposed to go read this thread you started where you are claiming victim??

Explain why YOU lied! Explain why you replied in PM when i asked Quickseller to prove he was in control of my account. You replied and asked me to pm you via the Quickseller account!



There are plenty of honest and stand up people at bitcointalk  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=581411.80


I dont think you are one of those people .. not even remotely!! But lets just say for the sake of argument that you were genuinely ripped off by Quickseller (ignoring the fact that you actually knew the account was stolen)

 why would you lie!? You have been lying since the first post you made in this thread! Why lie!?  








Clearly im being sarcastic ..but lets say you were victimized by Quickseller and you "now" realize he lied about being the account owner or he lied about having obtained the account legitimately when he sold you the account.


You are saying that if he gave you a refund you would return the account to him! "the guy who ripped you off "?.. The guy who stole the account of another hero member here at bitcointalk!? You would return the stolen account to the thief when the original owner has been in front of your face the whole time screaming about being victimized by Quickseller?



My god..  What am i missing here!


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Its like Quickseller pulls up in a car with a screwdriver in the ignition and you buy it from him.. Then you come back months later to say you got ripped off and you want your money back because well you know, the screwdriver... and if you get your money back you want to give him back the stolen car tho the owner of the car is your neighbor and a member of your community.

Im not picaso but thats what the picture looks like to me.


 
Expect me in your thread sooner then later.. i gotta get back to work so i may not chime in today but ... If you care to elaborate on why you chose to lie and why when i asked Quickseller to prove he was in control of my account YOU replied via pm using the Zedicus account asking me to pm you via Quickseller!!!!??

 
 
 

I am not sure why you are trying to label me as such a scammer. If I was going to scam you then I would not have given you anything after you sent me 1.1 BTC for your account without escrow (assuming you are the same person that purchased the account from me).

You appear to be making good on your threat on trying to ruin my business if I did not pay you 1.1 BTC that you are not due.

If I get a refund, it will be in Quickseller's possession. It will be up to him. And I will definitely use escrow.

Will you give the ownership of your account back to Bayuo if you get a refund from Quickseller? Also, if he agrees to give you a refund, I would advice you to go through an escrow to make it publicly visible that everything's going under a genuine way...

Bayuo and Quickseller can sort this out. I don't want to be involved and I want my money back.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/scammer-quickseller-acctseller-sold-me-a-hacked-account-884261

Him threatening to expose Quicksellers accounts was a farce.. The person controlling the Zedicus account is Quickseller. They are one in the same person or they are working in cahoots with one another hence the initial public threat with nane follow through.   

 


 

At the least in your case you brought him down with you. The zedicus account is abandoned now. Last time he was threatening to expose accounts but have quietened but thats it.

Sorry to hear about your expierience man, that sucks. Thats the part that pisses me off too. For some reason from our viewpoint its crystal clear a simple email confirmation could have prevented the whole thing. Im a lil tired of spelling it out eli5 style for people like Willisius so i wont even bother.

I would say many buyers are new to the community/to bitcoin and want to buy their way into features of higher level accounts. This is why you will often see senior and hero accounts asking newbie questions.

Just because you don't have the receipt for something does not mean that what you have in your possession is stolen. All that it means is that you do not have documentation of the transaction.
I am not sure. Most likely nothing. It has been said before that the majority of the time, the reason an account is hacked is because the owner was being careless (this is not something you addressed) so I don't see any reason why carelessness should be rewarded. Any criteria that is set in stone would be exploitable by potential scammers.

IMO the only time it would be appropriate to reset a password is in the case of forgotten passwords when the account in question has not been logged into recently and it is apparent that no one has control of the account.
The forum does not look highly upon scammers, they only do not moderate scams. There have been a few examples where the mods have outed the alts of scammers after it has been proven they have scammed. The current policy favors the person who is in control of the account. The fact they are in control of the account means that they somehow gained access to the password at one point. If the forum were to be as liberal about giving access back to old owners then it would be enabling scams.
Email confirmation will not work as the forum does not require email confirmation therefore it is not certain that the email the forum has is a real email address and if it is not it would be impossible to change your password in the event it is compromised and people would be able to scam in your name if your password is compromised.

You're chalking up account buyers as morons that don't know what they're doing. If someone's buying a BCT account, they're likely not a newbie to the community. Even if they did not think to ask for such proof, that can easily be solved with a public service announcement. If the buyer still chooses to go forward with the account purchase without some kind of signed message as a receipt, then it is their risk to take.


And what kind of proof would the OP have to present to satisfy that burden? What would it look like? What form would it take?


Of course, that is just your hypothesis. My guess is that with a more clearly well-defined recovery procedure it would allow theymos to restore more accounts back to their legitimate owners. Of course there's no way to know for sure without trying. And why favor account buyers at all? Theymos himself said he doesn't condone the activity anyway so worrying about account buyers getting scammed is a moot point.

Couple this with email confirmation on changes to vital account detail, like you read from my other post, that will cull out the majority of the account request to start with.

Good, let them be scammed. The only reason account trading is allowed is because they can't be stopped. If the rules favour original owners then account trading will reduce drastically.

Go to the Digital Goods section, you will find a few newbie sellers selling a lot of accounts. Why are they hiding? Simple as they know they can sell and leave leaving the buyer stranded. If the accounts are reset to original owners then the buyers will go away.