Topic: [WARNING] Nxt is a scam and I have PROOF - page 2. (Read 5154 times)

Where's the evidence, atoni?

"believe" does not count 

Anyways, bussiness guys love Nxt because it has the best features... (oh wait, the Digital Goods Store is launching soon...)

Btw The only reason Nxt's volume is relatively small is because it is nt just another shit coin and Nxters know that and don't just pump and dump it all the time...

Well if you dont believe leading nextcoin developer then ok. I am not forcing you to believe it

Nice way to turn me commenting on your line of arguing into something completely different.

No, I am not disputing the fact that many many many people have multiple wallets.
I have multiple wallets, too.

I am commenting on the conclusions you draw.

You make claims as if they are solid gold truth, yet the underlying arguments for these claims are much less solid than you present them: *that's* my problem!

Your distribution claim is based on an appeal to authority.
Your wallet conclusion is based on "I do it, so it must be true for the large stakeholders, too".

Let me reiterate: your concern for security is fine.
Your claims that a lot of the features in Nxt are also present in other systems are fine.

You will find no argument from me there, because both are valid and true. Security is paramount in crypto.
I don't share your apparent view that having the same features as other currencies is a bad thing, but that's not really a dividing line.

What amazes me is that for all that, you seem to feel the need to bash on a single small, and not very well documented argument, based on an article that can easily be disputed to make your concerns into fact.

I have yet to see any "fact" on distribution from you, apart from your reference to James' article.

I ask again: do you have anything else apart from: "James said it. I trust James." to back up your points on distribution?

LOL, that was a joke from me. You can see all my posts in those couple of days that were all jokes.

I'm still waiting on your proof that 75% of Nxt is owned by 3-4 people.

"Coz James told me so" is no proof.

Farce is the word you need, Atoni.


It is pretty obvious that this thread is intended as a FUD attack on NXT, and an attempt to pump EXO:

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/exo-and-nxt-are-great-coins-sorry-709528

Very coincidental that Cryptonaut and Atoni are the first 2 posts in the above EXO thread.....

Are you actually saying that people dont have multiple accounts to hold funds? LOL, nice methodology you use, to me mine is a lot better as its known fact that people use more accounts and that account explorer doesnt mean anything.

This is becoming a farse

Re-read from here if you want me to restate what my arguments are and why you are wrong: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.8099922


Maybe understand them before you try and respond again.

 
When I was young I was always shocked by inequity and unfairness.
I was violently reacting to it until the day I understood that I won't fix everything by myself and that "fairness" is an idea, an utopia, not a possible reality.

The worst is that the more you try to fix inequities, the more you take the freedom from people.
Everything has a cost. You cannot have a fair nation without control and oppression.

My view is that inequity and unfairness is indeed bad but it is the cost to pay to have property rights and a bit of freedom.
"Freedom" also is an utopia but more concrete and possible than "fairness".
I think that crying about the distribution of wealth on forums is a lost cause and a waste of time.

So it's an appeal to authority. Glad to have cleared that up.
That means there is no way to dispute your claims, as they are based on your choice to trust this authority, not on original research.
James himself admits in the article you so gladly selectively quote that his conclusions are based on a "guesstimate".
We're at least clear now on how solid the basis for your conclusions is.

Your second argument is just logically unsound.

Your syllogism goes thus:

Minor premise: I own 4 nextcoin wallets
Major premise: All of my wallets are empty
Conclusion: All large nextcoin holders hold multiple wallets
Addendum: you know I am right.

Um...?

dude.. right back at ya

this is scary if you cannot see it by yourself..

Ok,

The assertions you have made with no or counterproductive evidence and I have asnwered fully and with links where appropriate and requested, are:

i) MGW was run like an exchange and couldn't be run by none exchange owners
ii) That 3-4 people control 75% of Nxt (you still provide no links to blockchain data)
iii) Attacking Nxt on the grounds of distribution and to be avoided but thinking Ripple is fine to use
iv) Secret pump and dump of jl777holdl on polo when everything was transparent and public
v) That Ripple is decentralised in the definitions only Ripple users identify with, and the impact this has on your arguments assertions.
vi) refusing to see the difference between an idea implemented and an idea implemented successfully, and the innovation required to overcome the barriers between the two concepts.
vii) When failing in all these attempts to spread FUD, attack me personally.

Anyone can check this summary against the last couple of pages for accuracy.


Finally, I have posted that picture as I found it confusing. It went against all the accepted definitions of Decentralised / Distributed / Centralised I had come across. Come-from-Beyond replied to me and I forget the wording but basically said 'it's a Ripple thing, they use different definitions'. I think it was in the Price Speculation thread if you want to browse it while doing your research  

Till next time...  

I already answered that. My conclusions come from James word and I am pretty sure he knows all larger holders so his word is good enough for me.

Your methodology is false one, I my self own 4 nextcoin wallets and dont even have nextcoin. So how many wallets do those that have it have? You know yourself that very well

Either I am on your ignore list, or you just refuse to answer my question: Do you, or do you not have facts to back up your assumptions about distribution?

Until the basis of your argument is solid, any further conclusions drawn from it are moot.

It's a basic methodology that cannot be ignored if you want to have a discussion that leads to valid conclusions.

You can criticize a crypto, we can discuss, that's the point of the forum but people calling for scam and spreading FUD with sockpuppet account like cryptonaut is doing is not acceptable.

I thought it was about me because I was among latests posters.

That picture was not posted from you for sure as I remember answering to that topic and then answering again saying to the person that just now I see that it was him that posted it. So you know succumb to lies?

Which links are you waiting for? To show how other coins had asset exchange before? LOL, that is common knowledge

You are probably right.