Was the forum better before without Merit or is it better now with Merit?

EarnOnVictor

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Quote from: Crypto Library on December 28, 2023, 04:03:59 PM

Quote from: BabyBandit on December 02, 2023, 06:51:39 PM

Members, reputable members. Was it better before back then when this forum was without merits or is it better or even much better now with merits? Please explain your answer so users like me can get an idea how it was and what you prefer.

Obviously, much better now. Although I am a user after the implementation of the merit system and I know how a newbie initially struggles to rank up. But anyway I would say the merit system has saved the forum from being worthless. Otherwise, the legendary rank holder who ranked up by shitposting would have reached millions by now, Grin

Anyway, I won't say that merit system is directly removing shitposts/spamposts from the forum or is implemented to remove it, I think the main reason for employing merit system is to stop those shit posters from ranking up.

The simple truth is that the merit system is a natural way to filter the forum by moderating it all by itself. Of course, this can't be a perfect way of moderation but it tries so well as we can all see and has lessened the work of the moderators too. I wonder how the forum would have been if this had not been implemented. If too many shitposts and spamming were not happening then, there will not be a reason for implementing the merits system.

As it is now, it is really working with no regrets, only that those who have sMerit should continue to use it judiciously and not partially so that it will not be difficult for those deserving it to get it. This is the only issue about the merit system, the distribution could be partial and some who deserve it most might not get it compared to those who deserve it less who get it more.

Sandra_hakeem

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Quote from: BabyBandit on December 02, 2023, 06:51:39 PM

Members, reputable members. Was it better before back then when this forum was without merits or is it better or even much better now with merits? Please explain your answer so users like me can get an idea how it was and what you prefer.

Beyond all reasonable doubt, the merit system has helped reduce the population of alt farmers, Plus the fact that strict measures are being taken should anyone be found in the very act -- note... it hasn't ELIMINATED them, it only created a boundary that'd take only a guru to bypass.. which would most likely be revealed with time.

I wasn't there before the merit system, but with the evidences from most prominent members at the time, I feel the forum was assumed the worst place if you ever wanted to read on some crypto valuables... Theymos made a Good decision.

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Quote from: BabyBandit on December 02, 2023, 06:51:39 PM

Members, reputable members. Was it better before back then when this forum was without merits or is it better or even much better now with merits? Please explain your answer so users like me can get an idea how it was and what you prefer.

Obviously, much better now. Although I am a user after the implementation of the merit system and I know how a newbie initially struggles to rank up. But anyway I would say the merit system has saved the forum from being worthless. Otherwise, the legendary rank holder who ranked up by shitposting would have reached millions by now, Grin

Anyway, I won't say that merit system is directly removing shitposts/spamposts from the forum or is implemented to remove it, I think the main reason for employing merit system is to stop those shit posters from ranking up.

348Judah

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Quote from: DYING_S0UL on December 25, 2023, 03:32:22 PM

I wasn't around when the merit system was introduced. But I do know that the forum was filled with spam and garbage posts before the merit system. So to fight this off, theymos implemented the merit system. Correct me if I'm wrong.

You're right, some of us weren't around when all this happened, but we met the story on ground about what led to the introduction of the merit system, i learnt that it was later as well that the altcoins sections was seperated from the other bitcoin discussions section to also confined all those spammers and trollers in the same place.

Quote from: DYING_S0UL on December 25, 2023, 03:32:22 PM

To be honest, I think merit system made quite the impact to the forum. Mostly to the users. They are trying to improve their post qualities in order to earn merits and rank up. So yes, there were many changes after all.

The merit system has made the quality delivery of members to increase and post what make sense before they can earn merit and that same merit is what will make them rank up, if you're not a spammer indeed then you will concentrate on giving your best in quality post.

Hewlet

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Quote from: BabyBandit on December 02, 2023, 06:51:39 PM

Members, reputable members. Was it better before back then when this forum was without merits or is it better or even much better now with merits? Please explain your answer so users like me can get an idea how it was and what you prefer.

although i joined the forum at the stage when merit system is he guarantee for your ranking up, I feel that it's what is best for a forum as this. Let's assume you just need an activity of 100 to rank up, it would be very difficult for bounty managers to select those that they will accept no a particular campaign since the number if persons ranking at the same page would have been much.

But using the merit system, you can easily access the quality of a particular users post by going through his merit history and checking the post that ranked him up and it's going to be easy to know those that spam the forum and those that don't.

I feel that the challenge is that the number of merit source might not be all that much and sometimes ranking up might not necessarily be all that easy but the fact that quality threads gets you merited help one to out in the effort to making contribution that I of high quality and that can help some users that comes across your thread or replies

Lida93

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Quote from: BabyBandit on December 02, 2023, 06:51:39 PM

Members, reputable members. Was it better before back then when this forum was without merits or is it better or even much better now with merits? Please explain your answer so users like me can get an idea how it was and what you prefer.

The merit system as I know was introduced in 2018 of which I got into the forum in 2022 which clearly indicates that I didn't experience how the forum was regarding to discussions/threads quality as at that time before the merit system but by the role and purpose of the merit system as established common sense alone will tell you that the introduction of the merit system was to solve a recurring problem called spamming and low quality posting and it has made things much better in the forum than when it wasn't in place.

Simply put, If before when there was no meriting system was so great than now then there wouldn't be a need for enacting merit system. With the merit system spamming has been been reduced to it barest minimum as merit stands as a reward for quality delivery in posts/comments.

Mpamaegbu

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Quote from: The Sceptical Chymist on December 02, 2023, 08:54:09 PM

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When was it possible to start enroll in campaigns on the forum? Was also that a positive change? For the reason now an account can actually make move in a respected way (Post high quality posts) so it should also make the forum a bit cleaner from spam?

I checked too a few years ago when my curiosity pushed me to as finding out if the forum started hosting campaigns from its first year. Nope, it didn't. Signature campaigns weren't even a thing until around 2014 or before it (I can't be sure of what year I discovered then now). Even then, campaigns were run mostly on monthly basis and some campaigns would demand that participants reapplied once the 30 days period were over. The pay wasn't much to write home about then but that same pay now is humongous if we compare it with what value it has now. Human traffic was minimal too then. So, I think this forum grew from nothing to what it's now. I also believe that more changes also await us in future at BTT.

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Quote from: BabyBandit on December 02, 2023, 06:51:39 PM

Members, reputable members. Was it better before back then when this forum was without merits or is it better or even much better now with merits? Please explain your answer so users like me can get an idea how it was and what you prefer.

Before the merit system, some users didn't have to pay more attention to the BitcoinTalk, I'm not considering all the users here but just some of them. When the merit system came every individual is in struggled to get more merit through his posts and his better activities on the BitcoinTalk so his BitcoinTalk ID could be in the front of the last of the better users who were active there, and their posts quality was even better.

It has a better impact on Bitcointalk as users can help each other by sending merits and giving merits to each other's posts regarding their qualities. This way, the community of BitcoinTalk is growing day by day and engaging in different talks here in different forms.

i think it is better

DYING_S0UL

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I wasn't around when the merit system was introduced. But I do know that the forum was filled with spam and garbage posts before the merit system. So to fight this off, theymos implemented the merit system. Correct me if I'm wrong.

To be honest, I think merit system made quite the impact to the forum. Mostly to the users. They are trying to improve their post qualities in order to earn merits and rank up. So yes, there were many changes after all.

ZAINmalik75

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Quote from: BabyBandit on December 02, 2023, 06:51:39 PM

Members, reputable members. Was it better before back then when this forum was without merits or is it better or even much better now with merits? Please explain your answer so users like me can get an idea how it was and what you prefer.

Before the merit system, some users didn't have to pay more attention to the BitcoinTalk, I'm not considering all the users here but just some of them. When the merit system came every individual is in struggled to get more merit through his posts and his better activities on the BitcoinTalk so his BitcoinTalk ID could be in the front of the last of the better users who were active there, and their posts quality was even better.

It has a better impact on Bitcointalk as users can help each other by sending merits and giving merits to each other's posts regarding their qualities. This way, the community of BitcoinTalk is growing day by day and engaging in different talks here in different forms.

lovesmayfamilis

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Quote from: SatoPrincess on December 13, 2023, 06:37:56 PM

OP is fond of creating topics that make little sense or coming up with fabricated stories. Sometimes he ends up deleting the thread when caught in his lies. Anyone who has been on forums before or spent a few weeks on bitcointalk will come to appreciate the merit system. Though at first newbies may feel the merit system is working against them because they are not getting the merits they think they deserve. Hence the resentment and suspicions of older members hoarding merits or only giving merits to high rank accounts.

You're right. I remember the time when you were growing up and were extremely worried about your posts, so much so that you probably wrote not only me by PM but also other users to check your posts. Wink

But the reason is that people grow up differently here. Some beg for merit or are extremely concerned about quality, while others create content that cannot exist without user approval.

SatoPrincess

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Quote from: BabyBandit on December 02, 2023, 06:51:39 PM

Members, reputable members. Was it better before back then when this forum was without merits or is it better or even much better now with merits? Please explain your answer so users like me can get an idea how it was and what you prefer.

What do you mean better? Has useful information stop being spread here? are there not still very many helpful topics created by still very quality writers? The forum is good, and it just strikes me that if the merit system was added to the forum when it was not a part of the original plan, then it means it was meant to make the forum better as an improvement. At this stage I the forum where things has remained like nice and running with the merit system, the forum will feel odd if the merit system is abolished.

OP is fond of creating topics that make little sense or coming up with fabricated stories. Sometimes he ends up deleting the thread when caught in his lies. Anyone who has been on forums before or spent a few weeks on bitcointalk will come to appreciate the merit system. Though at first newbies may feel the merit system is working against them because they are not getting the merits they think they deserve. Hence the resentment and suspicions of older members hoarding merits or only giving merits to high rank accounts.

ineedhelpplease

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A challenge? Shouldn't be too hard. Time to go searching Wink

Quote from: TheUltraElite on December 13, 2023, 11:19:26 AM

Quote from: ineedhelpplease on December 13, 2023, 10:50:20 AM

When was merit first added to the forums?

A little bit of searching around the forum and from help of search engines or by reading the threads started by theymos you can find this out yourself, let that be your homework. Roll Eyes

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What were the old ways of ranking up?

By being active you would attain a activity of 14 every 14 days. Now read the rank requirements and just remove the merit requirement from there and only activity remains. That was what determined rank at that time. To get that activity people used to post, but that posting became spam because it was easy to rank up many accounts owned by the same person.

Hmm. I see, thanks

criptoevangelista

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Siga sempre em frente! always move forward!

With merit, the quality level of the forum increases significantly!

I have always participated in forums all my life, before registering I always appeared here just to read what people wrote.

One thing I can say, all or almost all internet forums with this layout are dead. What keeps this forum very busy and with quality is largely due to the merits system, which is a valuable part of an entire ecosystem that works alone in favor of quality.

And the person who invented this deserves congratulations, the result is incredible.

bakasabo

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Hard to calculate if the forum became better or not when merit were introduced. People manage to spam anyway. But, it definitely decreased the amount of spam or low quality posts. It is better to say that with merit introduction forum was separated from users who registered here only to get money, but never to learn, to create or to share, from those who care not only about how thick is their wallet.

TheUltraElite

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Quote from: ineedhelpplease on December 13, 2023, 10:50:20 AM

When was merit first added to the forums?

A little bit of searching around the forum and from help of search engines or by reading the threads started by theymos you can find this out yourself, let that be your homework. Roll Eyes

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What were the old ways of ranking up?

By being active you would attain a activity of 14 every 14 days. Now read the rank requirements and just remove the merit requirement from there and only activity remains. That was what determined rank at that time. To get that activity people used to post, but that posting became spam because it was easy to rank up many accounts owned by the same person.

ineedhelpplease

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I wasn't around when this came but you present an interesting question.

Makes me wonder;

When was merit first added to the forums?

What were the old ways of ranking up?

aioc

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Quote from: BabyBandit on December 02, 2023, 06:51:39 PM

Members, reputable members. Was it better before back then when this forum was without merits or is it better or even much better now with merits? Please explain your answer so users like me can get an idea how it was and what you prefer.

I voted better with merits now, with merits we will know who is serious about contributing and being an active member of the forum, it weeds out spammers and more farm accounts, there are members of this forum that only post here for bounty without contributing to the forum, if there is no merit we will see legendaries with no contribution but bounty reports and this is not good for the activity and reputation of the forum.
With merits, it stopped creating high-rank members with no contribution.

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Quote from: 348Judah on December 12, 2023, 11:55:57 AM

If you truly understand the reason for the introduction of the merit system then you will understand that it was intended for something good and not bad, we don't need the spammers to get rankef up, the merits system will fight against them and ever since then, there have been moderation in times of dealing with these spammers and trollers, most of them were also confined to the altcoins sections then you could easily found on the main bitcoin discussion boards.

Exactly and it's also difficult for account farms to grow because it's difficult to rank up anymore unlike the last time where they can just create more and more account and then apply it to signature campaigns but most obviously it's for spammers and at the same time make sure that the contents in the forum grow to a much higher standard because those who do good with their posts are given merit so they're more inspired to do it more. Merit system is actually a good way to prevent abuse and exploits in the forum and I've seen a lot of games and forums do measures against spams and so far, this is the best that I've seen or heard.

348Judah

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If you truly understand the reason for the introduction of the merit system then you will understand that it was intended for something good and not bad, we don't need the spammers to get rankef up, the merits system will fight against them and ever since then, there have been moderation in times of dealing with these spammers and trollers, most of them were also confined to the altcoins sections then you could easily found on the main bitcoin discussion boards.

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