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Will the 25k TN added in the voting reward pool be returned as stated in the verification page ...?

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Can produce $500m-$5bn paper profit over 24 months with monthly exit liquidity $1000 to $20 000 on 50k-100k waves cash buy out ($70k-$140k) at 10% apy L1 staking.

Only valid when waves price <$2 otherwise the initial is $250k-$500k USDT apy 3%.

The subject of sale is a 2017 art vault. Similar assets from 2017 are worth $10m-$1bn.

7 page Prospectus with detailed business plan:
https://tinyurl.com/p86nxev3

Market cap will be pumped from $100k today up to $5bn over 24 months for the new owner combined with $1k-$20k monthly exit liquidity to sustain and realize this profit.

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Waves Super cycle double bottom $1.25 close.

Next stop

1.55/1.7/1.95/10.8

I honestly would like to hear from anyone on a counterpoint why a 2017 art vault with certified documentation to prove that statement could not be worth $5bn on paper when others like Mooncats Cryptopunks Autoglyphs are $100m-billions?

So in actuality who will stop this from ranking top 15 globally at $5bn? Who in here has the merit to contest that valuation? Please show yourself, now is the time.

MoonCats = ~$9 million on a good day
Cryptopunks wrapped + unwrapped = ~$990 million
Autoglyphs = ~$160 million

All these projects have had a large, active community for years.

Here's the thing: if you had made your collection as NFTs back then, you might have a point -- although $5 billion is very much pushing it. Instead it seems like you have an ERC20 token from 2017 which are fairly common and you're lacking a cohesive narrative + marketing + community.

You're ignoring several years of work involved in achieving these valuations... They didn't just happen overnight.

I am not selling it for $5bn. I requested $500k initially then $200k now that waves is $1.3 I could go as low as 100k-130k for the lot.

After there is 100k waves the road to $500m-$5bn paper cap is open combined with $1300-$20 000 monthly exit liquidity. It is the buyer who realizes this profit over time, not me.

It is not profitable to do crypto marketing unless you are part of a large scale multi million dollar backed project. The marketing cost on coincodex and such starts at thousands of dollars and the clicks can't be vetted. I can't compete with primexbt for the marketing dollars it is simply not realistic. Adwords, microsoft and so on already stopped me from trying their cpc and I dare not try twitter to risk botching a 2018 account with alot of provenance.

Community in this case is an obstacle rather than benefit. This is a small collection of 3 vaults with 30+30 NFTs in each vault. Userbase is limited to a few hundred at this stage. Retail community would be a big obstacle in pumping cap from $200k to top 15 global. And I din't make this for retail it was a criticism of specific people in the Jet Set and Military industrial complex, more relevant than ever.

There are benefits with public participation tho, such as legitimate price discovery but it is hard to onramp retail when the project doesn't have a chance to reach a wide audience through marketing channels.



Here's the thing: if you had made your collection as NFTs back then, you might have a point


I speculate that this doesn't matter because there is such scarcity of crypto art from 2017 and I am not aware of any other projects from that era with this type of high res art (6000x9000 pixels). Every other ABT is gold or fiat backed, mine is the only ABT backed by art. People seem to forget that there was no infrastructure for NFTs in 2017, there was no ERC-721. It is easy to say do this do that in hindsight but the mere fact that I came this close with an integrated complete art collection with provenance to show causality between token and art is simply astonishing. Leonidas on twitter was completely amazed at my foresight in screenshots from 2017 when I laid out verbatim the entire art movement in crypto that would unfold years in the future.

https://www.coingecko.com/en/categories/asset-backed-tokens


MoonCats = ~$9 million on a good day
Cryptopunks wrapped + unwrapped = ~$990 million
Autoglyphs = ~$160 million

You're ignoring several years of work involved in achieving these valuations... They didn't just happen overnight.


Price for this collection (waves vault): $130k. Again, I am not trying to sell for $1bn. $130k for a 2017 art vault is basement bargain.
Waves at multi year low paves the way for huge pump in this vault token but it is no rush, can always stake USDT and generate similar APY (10%) and I am researching options. Btw mooncats did not have active community I was in Punks Discord when they started claiming them from the old smart contract. My asset shares behavioural similarities with Mooncats and it topped at $100m IIRC. So Mooncats was not "years of work" they claimed and pumped it in an afternoon.

USDC/USDT on binance is 3% APY. Would prefer 100k waves/10% apy at $1.3 multi year low entry. 30k waves at $1.3 and DCA down to 50 cents in case.

Instead it seems like you have an ERC20 token from 2017 which are fairly common and you're lacking a cohesive narrative + marketing + community.

Literally all of the 2017 "NFTs" are ERC-20.

So technically I can do $40 000 cash right now to get the ball rolling with a pledge from the buyer of another $100k depending on waves behaviour. You asked me to lower price from $200k to $20k, $40k is the best I can do and that is simply because of prodigios market conditions with waves at multi year low. I will caution that 300 waves per month in liquidity will not yield $5bn pump anytime soon. This vault was already sold once in 2019 pre NFT boom for $4000. I bought out that majority holder a few months ago to repackage the deal and mainly get the cap into top 2000. Cap increased by x20 since april after the buyout. With 100k waves leased at 50c-$1.3 I can generate $200k ---> $30m market cap instantly and $500m-$5bn over 24 months.

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I honestly would like to hear from anyone on a counterpoint why a 2017 art vault with certified documentation to prove that statement could not be worth $5bn on paper when others like Mooncats Cryptopunks Autoglyphs are $100m-billions?

So in actuality who will stop this from ranking top 15 globally at $5bn? Who in here has the merit to contest that valuation? Please show yourself, now is the time.

MoonCats = ~$9 million on a good day
Cryptopunks wrapped + unwrapped = ~$990 million
Autoglyphs = ~$160 million

All these projects have had a large, active community for years.

Here's the thing: if you had made your collection as NFTs back then, you might have a point -- although $5 billion is very much pushing it. Instead it seems like you have an ERC20 token from 2017 which are fairly common and you're lacking a cohesive narrative + marketing + community.

You're ignoring several years of work involved in achieving these valuations... They didn't just happen overnight.
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Anyway I guess you are aware WX price is only $ 0.01 there with just $4000 you can obtain the quorum by yourself and get your billionaire project started.


Considering that the market cap increased x25 in two months from $10k to $250k with only a few thousand USD between $250k and $30m, It is my belief that the problem surrounding this project is the factor of exposure/visibility and unfortunately bastardy.

I have connected with H&M global controller and right hand man of Stefan Persson. He agreed to evaluate the merits of my prospectus on linkedin.

I also wrote to Swedish subsidiary of Bonhams, Bukowskis who I was also in contact with last year concerning this catalogue.

My point is that Bitcointalk may be ghost town but I know for a fact that there are plenty of whales in here and once this goes off and we are looking at $5bn cap in 24 months, the opportunity for anyone in here to profit will have already ended because this will not circulate on any retail level it will be straight into establishment circuit.

So if you are here and have $200k-$500k disposabel looking to allocate, this is probably where that money should go. Even better if you are also well connected with crypto brokers and the art circuit. If you are then this is the deal of a generation and if you are not we start with the plan A which is allocate funds into waves at multi year lows and generate 10% exit liquidity for you at x10 000 mark up.

I honestly would like to hear from anyone on a counterpoint why a 2017 art vault with certified documentation to prove that statement could not be worth $5bn on paper when others like Mooncats Cryptopunks Autoglyphs are $100m-billions?

So in actuality who will stop this from ranking top 15 globally at $5bn? Who in here has the merit to contest that valuation? Please show yourself, now is the time.

The truth is that only a handful of people on the planet has the actual ability to identify and execute in these type of scenarios, it doesn't matter how much you are spoonfed you still don't get it until it is too late. Same with Bitcoin, Eth etc. Who in here bought eth at $7? Well I did.

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Who ever upvoted my project with 600k gwx is it possible to get 400k more for quorum verification?

I have solicited some institutional buyers to share details of the prospectus:

Mirabaud Group (David Wertheimer)
British Museum Board of Trustees (Alejandro Santo Domingo)
Almi Invest (Alex Molvin)

Can generate $500m-$5bn market cap on $200k-$500k initial. Owner of 3 crypto art vaults deployed in 2017.

Link to the full prospectus:
https://static1.squarespace.com/static/59f96db06957da0ad5ec0089/t/643f0f91abb79a3320734bae/1681854353560/prospectu+2.pdf

nvm the votes I see it is disabled for suggest new tokens and voting for tokens because of the new mechanic update.



There are several waves related telegram groups , maybe you should try to get some attention there because, as you can see, waves English thread is a gost town here ( the one in German section is much more active for example).

In this one @wavesissues Sasha is online almost daily fueling his shitshow.

Anyway I guess you are aware WX price is only $ 0.01 there with just $4000 you can obtain the quorum by yourself and get your billionaire project started.
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Who ever upvoted my project with 600k gwx is it possible to get 400k more for quorum verification?

I have solicited some institutional buyers to share details of the prospectus:

Mirabaud Group (David Wertheimer)
British Museum Board of Trustees (Alejandro Santo Domingo)
Almi Invest (Alex Molvin)

Can generate $500m-$5bn market cap on $200k-$500k initial. Owner of 3 crypto art vaults deployed in 2017.

Link to the full prospectus:
https://static1.squarespace.com/static/59f96db06957da0ad5ec0089/t/64860e0f33d90547155bbb24/1686507023718/prospectu+2.pdf

nvm the votes I see it is disabled for suggest new tokens and voting for tokens because of the new mechanic update.




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I can generate $500m (waves <$2) to $5bn (waves >$20) market cap for this project within 24 months but it requires between $200k to $500k cash from OTC sale. The buyer will receive 30+~30 Rarible NFTs (minted after sale) and 90% of active vault supply ~450m tokens in exchange for the cash.

The first step is to verify the token on waves and it still needs 400k votes for yes quorum:

https://waves.exchange/governance/tokens_verification

The second step is to lock 100k waves at 10% APY on the L1. Unlike smart contract staking with higher interest this cannot be rugged.

The third step is to pump market cap from $250k to $30m using 1000 monthly waves liquidity from the 10% apy. And then $500m-$5bn over 24 months for top 15 global rank.

The buyer will get x10 000 paper profit with $2k-$20k monthly exit liquidity and ownership of a 2017 art asset of which there is only a handful, all trading between $100m-$4bn.

I will then advice on the methodolody to monetize this paper value (Coinmarketcap activation, waves token verification, bukowskis/christies/bonhams NFT auctioning, IPO, gallery/museum exihibition partnership, embassy sales, artbasel).

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Pepe and Apes trade between $500m-$1bn market cap.

This valuation is attainble for The Museum's waves vault within a few years on a $200k sale.

If 100 000 waves is staked at $1.7 and 10% apy this is 1000 waves liquidity per month to fund a pump to $1bn. There is significant resistance at $30m cap.

The time to make this deal is now. It may be possible to also get verified with 1m gwx quorom as there is already 85/15 yes/no votes and 618k/1m.

Waves will not remain sub $10 for long the opportunity to lock this value is today. If we lock it now on a $200k sale the market cap can be sustained at $5bn if waves goes to $20, this is top 10 ranking global.

I am in a position today to make an investor with $200 000 one of the richest men on earth (on paper).

Now is the time to strike, it has been 6 years in production.

Exit liquidity at $20 waves is $20 000 per month this is less than 1 year ROI on $200k.



When was the last time you saw +30 000% year on year performance? This is only the beginning, the cap is only $300k.We will push to $30m 20 minutes after the $200k deal is closed and $1bn within a few years ($5bn+ if waves also goes up).

And who will say that the only high res crypto art asset from 2017 which is also the first art vault in existence is not worth $5bn? I don't hear anyone contest cryptopunks billion dollar cap on the contrary it is only expected to appraise with time like warhol, picasso, pollock, dali.
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I cannot do anything constructive with $20k at this point. It is too little money. $20k is my actual yearly disposable income and I am unwilling to sell one of a kind crypto asset in exchange for 1 years income.

I will accept $100 000 down from $500k and most recently $200k for the waves vault.

From this 1/3 ~15 000 waves will be staked to generate $250 monthly exit liquidity. If waves drops to $1 it will be raised to 50k waves / $400 per month buyback capital. Another few thousand waves will be immediately deployed to pump market cap from $400k to $30m.

The buyer can transfer $100 000 USDT or waves equivalent to 3P7VGLF9vPVsUZusxP9hBjQ2NwkNyhppb5G

and I will send back 440m M2 tokens with a paper worth of $30m. I will also mint and send the NFTs on rarible. Since this is a bulk sale the NFTs will be included in the deal normally the tokens must first be swapped to get the NFT. I would like KYC if sending the NFTs.

So for $100 000 the buyer will get the following:

1. 440-450m m2 vault tokens equal to 95% of active supply
https://w8.io/top/BS1KFNR8zrXKBEWdUUvpaP6G57Hic3aESkwK7qQKdLpB

2. 30+30 NFTs from the original 2016 collection of which 23 are ready to deliver:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.30480040
https://rarible.com/MarquiseMuseum/sale

3. Paper profit pump from $400k cap up to $30m cap
https://coincodex.com/crypto/marquise-museum/

4. 5 years free advisory how to monetize and curate the asset for generational wealth creation. The buyer must be well connected to achieve this.

5. Monthly exit liquidity to sustain and realize the $30m profit from $250 up to $10 000/month depending on waves price and how much is staked at 10% apy. APY could be as much as 30-50% when staked in other liquidity pools but then there is rugpull risk.

6. Attempt to reach 1 million verification quorum with gwx this is worth 15 000 waves but it may be downvoted if reaching 1 million yes votes because there are some voters with tens of millions of gwx who only promotes insider projects. So its quite risky to lock 1 million wx for 4 years to get verified. But it has some exposure value although I would advice to resell this asset OTC and avoid selling in fractions to retail because they don't have coordinated buying power to monetize these large multi million dollar valuations in the short term. But there is some legitimacy in retail participation too so not to be 100% dismissed. However this asset is quite limited in scope it is not a 10k NFT so the scalability is limited to a few hundred users.

7. 5% royalty dividend on all aftermarket NFT platform sales. This could add up to a large amount per year in bonus payment but this is a small collection so trading activity is expected to be quite small possibly only a few sales per year and royalty fee can also be circumvented by OTC transfer between buyer and seller which is heavily abused on Opensea in other high liquidity projects such as Cryptopunks and BAYC.

Complete Token equity is presented here:

Eth version 1 66k ERC-20 vault 30+30 NFTs, recommended value $30m up to $500m, asking price $3m
Waves version 2 450m vault tokens 30+30 NFTs (same images in all vaults), monetization value $3m up to $500m, asking price $100k down from $500k
XCP version 0 not for sale, permanent exhibition

Additional future vaults: TurtleNetwork and possibly another Waves vault using an earlier iteration of the M2 vault containing a reissuable supply although this will probably not be utilized, rather it may be included in the waves v.2 sale as a curiosity and provenance.

So for $100k the total equity in this project is: 25% split over 4 vaults on 4 blockchains with a 1 to 30 year monetization potential of $100m up to $1.5 billion.

Buyer can also establish a public stock firm to make this agreement legally binding by tying public stock to the tokens on a preferred ratio such as 660m stocks = 660m token. This could of course be subject to future IPO aswell but this is way beyond my paygrade.

I will only agree to $100k price if permitted to retain 10% on the 15% aftermarket royalty on all future NFT sales for waves version 2. Otherwise its back to $500k cash. Royalty redistribution is automatically performed on Rarible each time an item sells and the money is sent to the minting wallet which is 0xC742BcE0c13E31F2BBEC650D3A26058b64038832 and this is the same holder wallet for 100% of the erc-20 vault and it is the genesis wallet for the entire project since 2017 and for this reason it is an important integer in the certification matrix of this collection when minted as NFT or otherwise performing on-chain actions.

If one of these NFTs is at some point in the future worth $10 million then this 10% share per sale is invaluable. However this can be circumvented but it remains in my interest to retain those royalty points. It's like Star Wars or Batman points for Nicholson and Guiness.

Help with 380 000 yes votes so this token can get verified after 6 years waiting:

Marquise Museum
618,390.23 gWX / 1,000,000 gWX
85 % Yes  15 % No

https://waves.exchange/governance/tokens_verification

The helper will get to pick 1 NFT from the Rarible collection worth $50 000:
https://rarible.com/MarquiseMuseum/sale
https://docdro.id/d42ND6g

Or if you prefer the new ones:
https://opensea.io/collection/sdchimeras
https://opensea.io/collection/sdfractals

Charity Collection:
https://opensea.io/collection/indian-nations-community-fund

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My price is $200k for the waves vault and $3m for the erc-20.

Pay up before I die of old age I don't want a legacy of the artist who became worth billions after death. There is no free meal here if no one buys it before I die I will destroy it, drives, tokens, website - every trace of this artifact will be dusted so no one else will stand to profit if I did not.

It was quite a while ago now I tried to give you some advice: your prices are way too high. You leave no room for price appreciation -- speculators can't buy it, give it some public attention, and then flip it very easily. Maybe you don't care about that aspect, but that's part of the reason why your stuff never sold.

In order to sell it, you need

1. to cut the price down by about 90%, and
2. start a coordinated marketing campaign to find flippers/collectors.

Good luck.
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