Topic: WAVES - Complete Blockchain ecosystem for a token economy - page 5. (Read 129472 times)

No. Quite the opposite. The German thread is even very active: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1401734.new#new

what is the complication?

Block rewards are flowing into XTN but the news come when the price already went from 95 at the peak when you should have bought to 21 today when it is too late.

Better buy WX which is still at baseline and 100% correlated with XTn historically.

And of course waves native which is at mutli year low at the cusp of new bull super cycle.

There is no complication only need the correct info to make this type of money decision.

Anyone who tries to profit from xtn right now will immediately be in -50% loss when it bounces back to 50 and they will also miss wx/waves  fast x5.

Use your brains.

do opposite what ivanov shills on twitter it is the only way to make money here.

long term the situation is beneficial I am sure $700m caps in xtn/wx/waves but short term forget xtn it is a trap.

situation is not complicated it is very easy, you see price going in 1 direction such as xtn without bounce then it is a trap only designed for you to lose money as fast as possible and dump waves which is all ivanov really cares about.

the only way to capitalize on xtn repeg right now is to buy wx which did not move yet because of market retardation. it should already be at $50m cap it is as of speaking $15m an x3 gap.

Less than 1 year ago 200k wx cost $200 000 you can buy it today for a little over $3k. WX/USDN correlation is 100%, wx went down 99% during depeg. WX will also pump alot because neutrino treasury has 100m token to dump. so they will need a sucker buyside first. It is the same situation in xtn they must dump soon 500m tokens but need suckers first. Long term both will go up if xtn regains confidence and the derivatives and passive income systems work properly which they probably wont but if they do waves ecosystem will go $30bn+ 10/10/10 xtn/wx/waves market caps.

But if you make mistake now with this triad you lose easy 6 month time factor. forget xtn buy wx/waves. buy xtn on $80 bounce IF you are willing to take on that level of risk which is much higher than the other 2.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.62826024

your post has completely changed, without mention of EDIT

very complicated matter, maybe Pascal or another member can explain?

or there is a medium post to assess the moves ?

note that ru ssian or german threads are currently inactive..

I did not predict the entry of millions of waves into XTN market but the question remains if waves block rewards are routed into XTN liquidity or am I properly hallucinating at this point regarding that vote. If the governance fund of 1.28m waves is all the backing of Neutrino then this buyback scheme will mathematically not work but if there are block rewards flowing then the system is a good solution.



3k waves from the mining rewards are routed into XTN market daily:

Miners buyback: 2880 $waves daily will be buying $xtn back indefinitely

https://twitter.com/sasha35625/status/1700407314400809228

This is extremely bullish for XTN and WX.

XTN is now $45m cap WX is $15m, both will easily move back to $700m on this news and if XTN regains stable coin status the price of waves will also pump easily to $7 ($700m cap).

From this $700m starting point 1-2 year price prediction of waves and those two support assets is $10bn+ if the derivative and passive income systems develop without problems.

This change is key to waves bullish reversal and the start of a new multi year x100 cycle.

There are still 450m xtn in the vires liquidation account and 100m wx in the neutrino governance fund. It is expected that these stacks will at some point be dumped in open market but first pump.

how are the present relations between sam trabucco and sasha??

sam is the present ceo of alameda.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/--5419710

previously alameda has been intricated with waves shorting in a major way; probably important with present waves evolution.

https://medium.com/wavesprotocol/waves-founder-sasha-ivanov-statement-on-alameda-insolvency-ba17225d2675

Was a share of waves block rewards routed into neutrino protocol as reserve funding for XTN and the repeg initiative? How much of the block rewards are being routed for this purpose? I can't find the voting history on this proposal but have a vague memory of it passing recently.

or is the total 1.3m waves in the multi collateral the fixed total? Where did these 1.3m waves come from?

https://neutrino.at/stats

I am aware that 100m WX was donated by the wx team, and some vires.

could we get an update on wx and the gwx staking change?

there was a proposal a few weeks ago which passed but since then no more news around this change. It was said the the gwx will be moved to a new staking contract I think. I don't want to lock anymore wx before this supposed migration is confirmed to have been successfully performed for the users.

Price predictions:

XTN price dump when waves $8.4 soon. Waves will soon test multi year reversal zone $7.75 and then proceed into multi year bull mode with $84 next year target. IF XTN repeg is successful the waves/xtn price will coalesce at a higher interval such as $80/80 in which case holding XTN vis a vis waves will be heavily penalized in the next bull market with a net gain of x3 from 25/1 vs holding waves at $1.5 to $80 for x50.

WX pump x10-20.

By the way the XTN liquidity change proved very efficient so clearly the community has alot of power to influence prices on waves platform. However I think the next market pump in waves is controlled by binance and I don't think they approve of the progress with XTN so the counter move will be waves pump.

But there are other mechanisms to escape binance control if this is desirable. WX is one such mechanism and it is only $10m cap so there will be a power move into wx for sure with resulting x10-20 pump.

But who knows, maybe ivanov will simply mint a new token, it is difficult to follow his intent these days but the XTN venture seems efficient. At some point the confidence in newly minted "platform tokens" will erode I think it already did with some of the new ones.

As I said in the PM, you can use both, and with Ledger, your funds are always safe.

Canonot help with your particular situation, best suggestion I can give you is asking these questions in one of the several  waves related telegram chats
https://t.me/wavesissues
https://t.me/wxnetworkcommunity
https://t.me/wavesexchange_eng,
https://t.me/Wavescommunity)

Be aware as soon as you ask them you will receive direct mesages from people pretending to be support agents or coming up with whatever excuses to induce you in performing some actions : THEY ARE ALL SCAMMERS, just instablobk and report them. Moderator or support never message first!

Alternatively you can who the moderators are and write them first.

So waves.exchange has moved to the new WX.network domain and it ask you to download the new application and migrate your accounts.  I haven't logged into my waves account in the waves.exchange client in some time.  Is it 100% necessary to download the new app and then click on migrate accounts or not?  Or you can continue to use the old waves.exchange desktop app without issue?



Does it matter if you have waves connected to a nano ledger as opposed to a seed phrase or that doesn't matter in this situation?

You can try with CoinGecko,  at this page https://www.coingecko.com/en/coins/waves/historical_data#panel you can find following info : Date, Market Cap, Volume, Open and Close ( yes that's not high and low you are looking for) for each specific day. On top of the panel you can set the specific timeframe you are interested in.
Or , if you are familiar with them, you can try using their APIs.

What site do you use to check waves historical price such as you can even go all the way back to when waves first came? 



I used coinmarketcap back then and you could go back many years and it showed the high and low price for each specific day but also the closing price as well.  When I check coinmarketcap website now, that doesn't exist?  The only thing is there is a graph where you have to manually move your mouse slowly day by day but it only displays one price.  Does it still show high and low for each day and the closing price?  If not, what site do I go to check for this?

thank you for response.

https://wscan.io is best for a portfolio overview, I use it regularly besides the official one.