Topic: WAVES - Complete Blockchain ecosystem for a token economy - page 118. (Read 131008 times)

Most of commenters on this thread is acting like an expert! if Waves cause you all that headache sell your bag and move to other projects, there are +4000 coins and tokens listed on CMC
All altcoins market are in bath of blood since months and WAVES is not the exception.
This thread is infested by poor quality posts, i used to enjoy read some useful and constructive comments of some users but it seem they left Waves thread because of what i mentioned above.

And yes, I have been loyal since ico and witnessed all.

The reason Waves is not mooning is a lack of demand. One is bidding lower and lower, nothing to do with amount of buying, its about valuation.
What is the cause of this decreased demand and valuation?
Let me start... a total disrespect towards loyal community. Examples are overpromising and not keeping promises. WRT ambassadors are fucked by promising 1wrt=1wave l, now its 0.01cent per wrt or something. Hyping up VST, multiple exchanges, lots of enterprises and governmental entities building on Vostok, but sold all in once, wham. Not even a promised 1,60$ minimal for public sale, because the promised sale didnt went through. A dillusional CEO tweeting out his arse waves should be worth intrensic 20-30$ and meanwhile the coin is trading around 1$ A CEO farting a tweet waves should be top 3, later top 5 cmc, and the coin is freefalling in cmc, around 68 atm.
Marketing, which marketing? As promised, but surprise... nearly any marketing.
Transparency regarding disclosure how ico funds was put to use, again, no transparency.
And NXT holders are still waiting for their money. Dont get me started on that, can be read here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5198937.0;all

Dont even start about how communit managers, like admins on TG, use their power to enslave censorship. Every direct question, or something which is seen as critique will be deleted. A ban will be the final result. Thats not how to run a serious discussion Almost if they are afraid of something.
Ofcourse Mr Ivanov himself is banning most critiques at twitfer, even when admins at TG suggest to post the question on twitter.

So, in a nutshell. You still wonder why waves price is tanking? Why most enterprises chooses other chains, why the investors arent interested anymore? I have lots of examples.
Lots of screenshots to back things. Ask, and I will post.

If these two platforms do the same thing, which is to burn the amount of supply there must be something planned, when XLM was burned I was very surprised and as a result the price of the pump immediately but not long after that there was a decline.

I wondered why the price has pumped so much over the last days when I logged into Waves Dex. There's the reason 

Overall a positive development: First Stellar Foundation burned a large part of its tokens and now Waves Enterprise is doing the same.

   https://twitter.com/wvsenterprise/status/1192791270344839171
$west(vostok) is a beast 60% of the total supply will be burned very soon! =>at least 60% price increase.
Sasha Ivanov wrote in a Twitter post west(vostok) will be added on a new exchange this month. Just Pump it
https://twitter.com/sasha35625/status/1187404704260771845

This is a complex venture but what is really going on?

-Waves has many competitors: WEST, Tokenomica, Nasdaq and global indexes who can clone this tech, Stellar, and some other similar coins like Nexus

-The entire project seems forced to become centralized with the new dex migration but the positive thing is that this new dex may be more appealing to commerce, we simply don't know yet but the price to pay is KYC in 6 months

-Waves team is probably correct to focus on programmers and their smart contract language because the commerce appeal is diminishing because it is apparent that no fortune 500 will break out of regulatory environment and join waves. These huge companies will wait for Nasdaq dollars so Waves can not capture that big market at all and must rely on emerging startups like crowdfunding combined with stock index. The problem with emerging business is that those who must rely on crowdfunding are more likely to be tier2 talents. So waves must try to avoid becoming the ebay of crypto and better the nasdaq decentralized option (so far is not doing anything to prevent this as it is moving towards centralization while keeping token issuance fee too low for spammers).

-Inflation of supply must of course be backed by real revenue and not simply air like it is now, the only good thing is 5% inflation is not so much but still 400 000 new waves printed every month. The only realistic way to become revenue generating is by 80 cent trading fee and perhaps they are preparing this in the new dex

I will not repeat everything that I have already analyzed but if things go well the market cap may find $250 billion in 5 years. Anything between 0.15-80 in this market is probably fair value but slightest good news such as merchant partnership or fortune 500 onramping will make this coin explode immediately. The range may seem big and it is a complex project but certainly not impossible to analyze.

The reason I think it is shorted is because it did not react to WEST token burn and this is very strange behaviour unless it is being suppressed by shorter. West and Waves are twins and big developments in each project such as 60% supply burn can and should affect the other market only from speculative trading if nothing more.

Let's take one more example. This year many tokens on waves platform did 500% rallies, and yet waves, the main coin itself (and in similar market cap like VST and TDX), cannot move even 10% up?? It is not normal behaviour.

TDX rally is a joke it is now 50% of waves market cap and only because of exchange staking. Exchange staking is nothing new and it was even on lowest tier exchanges like coinsmarkets which was created by exit scammer. So this only tells me that the investors who speculate on waves dex are clueless and I think they are mostly bored with waves and it is out of fashion for the moment. Waves doesn't need any fundamentals to move x100 it is apparent if TDX can rally 20 times money from introducing exchange staking which is a joke really.

at x100 market cap waves is parallell with stellar and those two coins are very similar except one is western market and other is eastern oriental. The discrepancy does not warrant a one hundred factorization difference and waves is much more intuitive to use and less clunky with alot more overview of technical details through pywaves.

First stop for waves is back in top 20, and that is 500 million to 1 billion market cap.

How does shorting Waves cause its value to crash? Its value is going down because more people are selling Waves than buying it. Without any truly positive news, as the price sinks further, more people will sell, creating a spiral of lower and lower prices until Waves finally crashes to its well-deserved death.

Sasha will walk away richer than a pop star - having made a success of NOTHING! - whilst everyone else will be abandoned, left burning to death in the wreckage.

san francisco: interesting !
were you there ?

youtu.be/ouc4muRyYPE

Hi jhenfelipe. This is definitely related to the change of ticker symbol (https://twitter.com/Waves_DEX/status/1189921451387867136). The ticker symbol for $VST was changed to $WEST (Waves Enterprise System Token) in order to avoid confusion.

Kind Regards, Waves Community Manager

Hello bittraffic. In case you have participated in VST daily snapshot, then you need to go through the verification process (https://vostok.wavesplatform.com/) and get "Address verified" status. Just send 0.0001 Waves to specific address or login in by using Waves Keeper. Speaking of suspicious tokens, please, check a tick "Don't show suspicious tokens" (Settings->Network) in your account.

Sincerely, Waves Community Manager

Maybe there are still bug problems, it usually happens sometimes we try again and again but still can't, I think the waves team should immediately investigate this problem.

Yes, VST tokens have been distributed long time ago. I received mine.

On the waves app, there's a search feature on assets section, but the problem is that VST isn't showing. I know there has been some problem on VST trading, but have no idea why the token isn't visible there. When I go to exchange VST/WAVES pair, I can still see my balance to sell when I click "use total balance".

Speaking of Vostok tokens, had they distributed the vostok airdrop for WAVES holders?

I have checked my waves wallet, its really hard to see the list of transactions, I haven't figured how to look at it because the list of tokens sent are so many that I have to scroll endlessly. Assets tab just filled with fake tokens. Almost with same name of the ERC tokens that we can't hide at least.

As long as its being shorted it will not go up, but the call has been made. It's obvious since yesterday with the west burn, no effect on waves yet it is same team in control.

Waves is being shorted and should be at $8 in normal conditions.

There was not even a speculative pump by traders in case waves assets also get burned by team, so it is obviously being suppressed by a strong shorter. He must buy these coins back sometime and my guess is very soon.

I am interested in who this shorter is and I think I know who it is because I sent a message to its address many months ago. It is a top wallet, more than 1 million coins. But more interesting is who the actual entity is and where they are from, and I also think this is suspected to have been identified based on a few observations. I don't think its Russian shorters but the lender probably is.

seeing it all will be very difficult to rise above the price of this project may have been abandoned by some investors even though the project has a lot of very good developments but can not attract investors and may remain at a price below $1

I'm predicting that Waves will very shortly rise abruptly to $12.56. How did I come by this - rather precise - figure? Same way the guy above did - by talking out of my arse!

Calling out waves shorter, it is time to go to $8 now.

We have waited enough now you had 3 vostok pumps and this burn news did not even have any synergy effect on waves because realistically this could also happen to waves, and still.... no market effect.

Most obvious shorting since the history of stock trading.

******

I offer 126 million $M-2 at 0.0003 (38 000 waves) and will use 50% of monthly staking pool (100 waves) to buyback $M-2 at any price you set, even 0.1 (it is 12.6 million waves profit for you).

Pm me for this deal or buy this top 2 stack directly in waves dex it is there now for trade.

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