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Coinomat asset swap victims

I feel your pain!

It's time to accept the truth,

Coinomat asset holders who did not swap in 2016 have been scammed, Sasha Ivanov is NEVER going to pay you anything close to what he owes you for using your wealth since 2014. This is a reality!


It's better to go visit the guy who owes you money in person, see if he scams you face-to-face

Sasha is a small man, he doesn't look like he would put up any resistance if Coinomat victims went to his house and negotiated

Does anyone have his address?

I'm down +100k USD on coinomat assets you scamming fuck, do you think it ends like this ... I am paying for the DOX
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So the coinomat swap saga finally comes to an end, there will be no coinomat assets traded on waves DEX, there will be no WAVES swap as promised in 2016.

Lies Lies Lies Lies Lies Lies

Karma is a real bitch Sasha Ivanov!!



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I am so disappointed,  after all this time coinomat asset holders are offered less than 3 cents per asset, this does not make sense,

- not all assets are being swapped
- all assets are swapped for WCT when it should be WAVES token AND compensation for lost WCT airdrop
- original coinomat assets had different relative values and NXTswap rates in 2016, in 2019 they all have the same WCT rate, why?
- the swap value of 3 cents is ridiculously low

This is totally unacceptable, I do not accept this offer, what about INDEX and Cryptocard assets, what happens with those assets?




Coinomat asset swap victims

I feel your pain!

It's time to accept the truth,

Coinomat asset holders who did not swap in 2016 have been scammed, Sasha Ivanov is NEVER going to pay you anything close to what he owes you for using your wealth since 2014. This is a reality!

@Waves.support will continue to ignore this issue (HIS BOSS IS A SCAMMER), but who can blame him, he's just a forum mod worker, not the person who stole your funds in 2014 and used them to make millions.

I have spoken to my accountant and this is the best course of action IMO

Do not swap your old coinomat assets for WCT

If you swap now you will get no value from your original NXT coins from 2014-16, you effectively miss out on the crypto boom from 2017, your NXT was worth peanuts in 2014-16, and the swap rate of WCT is peanuts now. Ivanov used your money to bootstrap his WAVES ICO which made millions, BUT, you get nothing!

I think Sasha Ivanov will never personally speak of Coinomat asset swap ever again, he is going to try and tough this out, ignore the whole drama, and hope it goes away. He isn't even bothering to swap all the old coinomat assets.

You can use this to your advantage though.

What you should do is convert the value of what your old coinomat assets would have been worth at the peak of the 2017 boom in December, assuming you had swapped them to WAVES, and convert that value into a personal debt in your local fiat, a debt owed by Sasha Ivanov to you personally for keeping your money past the promised swap date.

ALL his public statements since 2016 clearly explain the terms of the Coinomat::WAVES swap, and you are legally allowed to value Ivanov's obligation to you using WAVES value from December 2017 if you want, he promised the swap as early as April 2016 so the obligation to pay WAVES, (i.e. the debt) is beyond doubt, and you are legally entitled to value the debt and write it off "when you realised it wasn't going to be paid". This is the Tax law for most countries, it is for me anyway.

The original promise to swap is very clear, when WAVES DEX started, and as this was never done, the swap became a debt that you can write off when you first realised it was not possible to recover.

What you want to do is maximise the cost basis of the 'thing' you are going to write off, so DO NOT swap now!

I am picking December 2017 as the date to value Sasha Ivanov's debt to me, and he made it clear he refused to repay his debt with the recent email!

The debt was in WAVES, not WCT!

This will not let me ever get my money back, but it does mean I can file a police report for an unpaid debt valued at the peak of the last bull market, and then I can claim that as a capital loss for tax purposes to offset against other income.

It's better than nothing, 100% legal, you just need to file a police report.


It's better to go visit the guy who owes you money in person, see if he scams you face-to-face

Sasha is a small man, he doesn't look like he would put up any resistance if Coinomat victims went to his house and negotiated

Does anyone have his address?
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shake out before parabola, played flawlessly, don't sell.
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I just readf last tweet from Ivanov.
Seems he is proud to see its DEX  with a volume of 1.7 million USD.  Then comparing to Binance's DEX at 63 k USD ...while binance coin as skyrocketed at 35 USD.
This is the result of 1.5 year of works : 1 500 000 USD volume and waves worth less than 3 bucks, rank 37.


He mades the fastest world's  blockchain but nobody's take advantage of that.
He build Waves for ICO, but ICO frenzy is over.
He builds WCT for ....what exactly?
He builds ride while ETH has atracted one of the biggest world's utility with Dapp: EDF

Ivanov is the king of innovation that encounter ...well nobody

Game's over
Ahahahahahahah




Once upon a time Ethereum was worth few bucks too and a thousand miles journey starts with one step.....
Trolls are a good sign that Waves is on the right path to the success Grin
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Yeah just sold all vst token.
Got real bucks now and good luck to everybody.
Left 6k Waves to sell and bye bye Waves

rekt'd.  sold vst at the bottom.  lol
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I just readf last tweet from Ivanov.
Seems he is proud to see its DEX  with a volume of 1.7 million USD.  Then comparing to Binance's DEX at 63 k USD ...while binance coin as skyrocketed at 35 USD.
This is the result of 1.5 year of works : 1 500 000 USD volume and waves worth less than 3 bucks, rank 37.


He mades the fastest world's  blockchain but nobody's take advantage of that.
He build Waves for ICO, but ICO frenzy is over.
He builds WCT for ....what exactly?
He builds ride while ETH has atracted one of the biggest world's utility with Dapp: EDF

Ivanov is the king of innovation that encounter ...well nobody

Game's over
Ahahahahahahah


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Yeah just sold all vst token.
Got real bucks now and good luck to everybody.
Left 6k Waves to sell and bye bye Waves

It was 2-3k and now 6k next post it will be 12k WAVES Grin, You are a terrible FUDster  Tongue Tongue

so he is buying high ... selling low ...whats wrong with that  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

when will this coin get same level as eth ....

still have the ico amount .... could sell it high , and rebuy it low ... but instead of that i hodl it ......

so keeping hodling happely ever after

.....
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What you want to do is maximise the cost basis of the 'thing' you are going to write off, so DO NOT swap now!

I am picking December 2017 as the date to value Sasha Ivanov's debt to me, and he made it clear he refused to repay his debt with the recent email!

The debt was in WAVES, not WCT!

This will not let me ever get my money back, but it does mean I can file a police report for an unpaid debt valued at the peak of the last bull market, and then I can claim that as a capital loss for tax purposes to offset against other income.

It's better than nothing, 100% legal, you just need to file a police report.



So you're going to add trades to your records that show swapping coinomat assets into waves @ Dec 2017 prices? What good does that do? I want my money, not a tax deduction.
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I am so disappointed,  after all this time coinomat asset holders are offered less than 3 cents per asset, this does not make sense,

- not all assets are being swapped
- all assets are swapped for WCT when it should be WAVES token AND compensation for lost WCT airdrop
- original coinomat assets had different relative values and NXTswap rates in 2016, in 2019 they all have the same WCT rate, why?
- the swap value of 3 cents is ridiculously low

This is totally unacceptable, I do not accept this offer, what about INDEX and Cryptocard assets, what happens with those assets?




Coinomat asset swap victims

I feel your pain!

It's time to accept the truth,

Coinomat asset holders who did not swap in 2016 have been scammed, Sasha Ivanov is NEVER going to pay you anything close to what he owes you for using your wealth since 2014. This is a reality!

@Waves.support will continue to ignore this issue (HIS BOSS IS A SCAMMER), but who can blame him, he's just a forum mod worker, not the person who stole your funds in 2014 and used them to make millions.

I have spoken to my accountant and this is the best course of action IMO

Do not swap your old coinomat assets for WCT

If you swap now you will get no value from your original NXT coins from 2014-16, you effectively miss out on the crypto boom from 2017, your NXT was worth peanuts in 2014-16, and the swap rate of WCT is peanuts now. Ivanov used your money to bootstrap his WAVES ICO which made millions, BUT, you get nothing!

I think Sasha Ivanov will never personally speak of Coinomat asset swap ever again, he is going to try and tough this out, ignore the whole drama, and hope it goes away. He isn't even bothering to swap all the old coinomat assets.

You can use this to your advantage though.

What you should do is convert the value of what your old coinomat assets would have been worth at the peak of the 2017 boom in December, assuming you had swapped them to WAVES, and convert that value into a personal debt in your local fiat, a debt owed by Sasha Ivanov to you personally for keeping your money past the promised swap date.

ALL his public statements since 2016 clearly explain the terms of the Coinomat::WAVES swap, and you are legally allowed to value Ivanov's obligation to you using WAVES value from December 2017 if you want, he promised the swap as early as April 2016 so the obligation to pay WAVES, (i.e. the debt) is beyond doubt, and you are legally entitled to value the debt and write it off "when you realised it wasn't going to be paid". This is the Tax law for most countries, it is for me anyway.

The original promise to swap is very clear, when WAVES DEX started, and as this was never done, the swap became a debt that you can write off when you first realised it was not possible to recover.

What you want to do is maximise the cost basis of the 'thing' you are going to write off, so DO NOT swap now!

I am picking December 2017 as the date to value Sasha Ivanov's debt to me, and he made it clear he refused to repay his debt with the recent email!

The debt was in WAVES, not WCT!

This will not let me ever get my money back, but it does mean I can file a police report for an unpaid debt valued at the peak of the last bull market, and then I can claim that as a capital loss for tax purposes to offset against other income.

It's better than nothing, 100% legal, you just need to file a police report.



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VST stabilizing around 0.2 waves shows that people keep confidence in waves,

VST is new and we need to evaluate its first push.

by the way, DEX is permanently improving itself.
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Yeah just sold all vst token.
Got real bucks now and good luck to everybody.
Left 6k Waves to sell and bye bye Waves

It was 2-3k and now 6k next post it will be 12k WAVES Grin, You are a terrible FUDster  Tongue Tongue
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Yeah just sold all vst token.
Got real bucks now and good luck to everybody.
Left 6k Waves to sell and bye bye Waves
xyz
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Maybe you didn't qualify for the second airdrop! In this case the first airdrop will be delivered tomorrow  - I suspect.

Okay, didn't know that they distributed the second round at first. In this case, I know why I haven't received anything yet.

No, the people who have qualified for both airdrops received both together - not only the second one.
It is not to late to send 0.0001 Waves to this address: 3PBNiHBcp8rxiYkGVGNHEGZHEamb1aXeWVv to partizipate in in the second airdrop! too.

Are you sure? I thought I missed the deadline when I saw the Telegram announcement of the airdrop being completed. I just sent the 0.0001 Waves, let's see. Thanks for your help.

https://vostok.wavesplatform.com/
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• What's new for the second phase of the airdrop?
We have announced an additional allocation of 1% of VST tokens to be distributed to Waves accounts that contain WAVES and/or WCT tokens between 1 April and 31 May. The distribution criteria remain the same as in the first phase, based on your account’s average balance.

To participate in the second phase, you will need to log in using Waves Keeper on this page, or send 0.0001 WAVES to this address: 3PBNiHBcp8rxiYkGVGNHEGZHEamb1aXeWVv. Remember, you can proceed via Waves Keeper or transaction at any time during the second phase of the airdrop, which ends on 31 May.

Important! Users who do not follow the verification process between 1 April and 31 May will not receive an airdrop in the second phase.
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Maybe you didn't qualify for the second airdrop! In this case the first airdrop will be delivered tomorrow  - I suspect.

Okay, didn't know that they distributed the second round at first. In this case, I know why I haven't received anything yet.

No, the people who have qualified for both airdrops received both together - not only the second one.
It is not to late to send 0.0001 Waves to this address: 3PBNiHBcp8rxiYkGVGNHEGZHEamb1aXeWVv to partizipate in in the second airdrop! too.

Are you sure? I thought I missed the deadline when I saw the Telegram announcement of the airdrop being completed. I just sent the 0.0001 Waves, let's see. Thanks for your help.
xyz
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Maybe you didn't qualify for the second airdrop! In this case the first airdrop will be delivered tomorrow  - I suspect.

Okay, didn't know that they distributed the second round at first. In this case, I know why I haven't received anything yet.

No, the people who have qualified for both airdrops received both together - not only the second one.
It is not to late to send 0.0001 Waves to this address: 3PBNiHBcp8rxiYkGVGNHEGZHEamb1aXeWVv to partizipate in in the second airdrop! too.
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Maybe you didn't qualify for the second airdrop! In this case the first airdrop will be delivered tomorrow  - I suspect.

Okay, didn't know that they distributed the second round at first. In this case, I know why I haven't received anything yet.
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We have successfully made the airdrop of Vostok tokens to the Waves community!

The second snapshot phase ended today, so we decided not to wait around to distribute your tokens! Everyone who has held WAVES and/or WCT in a verified addresses (not on exchanges) over the past three months should have received their VST.
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What happened with them? As I remember they promised new project for business, and even said that they have some partnerships before New Year... And now after 6 month they have nothing?
Hello. What official statements and what partnerships do you mean exactly? Since New Year we got many partnerships and news which can be found in the official Twitter https://twitter.com/wavesplatform

Kind regards,
Waves Community Manager

I mean you was going launch Vostok blockchain for business and even promised airdrop of this new coins for Wawes holders. And you said, that you had companies which interested in work with this Vostok blockchain... so, what news about this Vostok project?
The distribution of $VST to $WAVES and $WCT (Waves Community Token) holders occurred today, on May 31. Vostok is tradable on the Waves Decentralised Exchange. Speaking about partnerships, there are already signed strategic partnerships and here's a few of them:
https://forklog.media/russia-to-implement-blockchain-in-state-governance/
https://cointelegraph.com/news/russian-tech-giant-blockchain-platform-sign-agreement-to-improve-operational-systems
I recommend you to read this article related to Vostok https://blog.wavesplatform.com/vostok-and-the-future-of-enterprise-blockchain-3904c9bb181c

Sincerely,
Waves Community Manager

So the distribution is already completed? Because I haven't received anything at all, no VST for me.
Maybe you didn't qualify for the second airdrop! In this case the first airdrop will be delivered tomorrow  - I suspect.
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What happened with them? As I remember they promised new project for business, and even said that they have some partnerships before New Year... And now after 6 month they have nothing?
Hello. What official statements and what partnerships do you mean exactly? Since New Year we got many partnerships and news which can be found in the official Twitter https://twitter.com/wavesplatform

Kind regards,
Waves Community Manager

I mean you was going launch Vostok blockchain for business and even promised airdrop of this new coins for Wawes holders. And you said, that you had companies which interested in work with this Vostok blockchain... so, what news about this Vostok project?
The distribution of $VST to $WAVES and $WCT (Waves Community Token) holders occurred today, on May 31. Vostok is tradable on the Waves Decentralised Exchange. Speaking about partnerships, there are already signed strategic partnerships and here's a few of them:
https://forklog.media/russia-to-implement-blockchain-in-state-governance/
https://cointelegraph.com/news/russian-tech-giant-blockchain-platform-sign-agreement-to-improve-operational-systems
I recommend you to read this article related to Vostok https://blog.wavesplatform.com/vostok-and-the-future-of-enterprise-blockchain-3904c9bb181c

Sincerely,
Waves Community Manager

So the distribution is already completed? Because I haven't received anything at all, no VST for me.
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