Topic: WAVES - Complete Blockchain ecosystem for a token economy - page 22. (Read 131026 times)

TN  still very calm in this period of agitation for waves stablecoin...

You need both password AND google authenticator code to log in. Only one of the two is not enough.

The google authenticator app has an option to export/duplicate all your codes onto another phone. Also it should have given you a "seed" (either a long password or a QR code) when you added your waves account to the google auth app, which you also can use to restore it in case your phone is lost or stolen

But yea, if you lose your password OR the google authenticator code you will be locked out of your account, so treat those like they are your seed phrase.

Waves Exchange -> Withdraw Your Monero XMR NOW

they´ve finally opened withdrawals, but at the moment I´m posting this, only 5h:30m are left until the XMR-delisting

https://reddit.com/r/Wavesplatform/comments/v2w3xp/withdraw_your_monero_xmr_now/

10.45 is valid top with 150% intraday pump on 400m squeeze and 2 bn volume. It can still manage 30-40 USD, easy 20-25. But the risk reward is not good at 8.3, lots of multi year downside to 10 cent if the billion dollar short continues. Only buy as much waves as you really use and need and save the rest for catastrophic sub 80 cent dump.

If this was Ivanov or buddies with the 400m short which is now covered they have billions in profit from -95% dump plus the extra 500 million USDN. They can do anything they want with waves from this point such as 10 cent dumping. In bear market no one will try and liquidate such a huge short except WSB.

It is possible to turn around the situation but in this bear market it will not be profitable so the short will continue question is from what price level. So 2 year bear -90 to -99% and then if all goes well triple digit 2025/26.

4-20 USD zone is toxic from this point until considerable improvement is observed. Buyzone is 1.15-2.7 usd, opportunity below 60 cents, all in 5-15 cents. In 8 zone maximum few thousand dollar long or a few percent of portfolio unless daytrading.

TurtleNetwork is interesting at 0.0025, same idea as Waves on 250k market cap. Not surprised if it goes over 1 usd eventually.

Put aside some cash for TN fishing at 0.001 instead of getting rekt in waves down to 80 cents and enriching the billion short guy. Easy to say hard to do.

USDN depeg 5:1 or worse will trigger 80 cent short but Ivanov must repay USDN/C first? then it was the profit from 60 usd short that was covered yesterday which will be used to release 400m USDN, and now the real short begins triggered by USDN implosion. Ivanov will probably not face jail but definately he will be punished by paying fine, quite a big fine. He has the benefit of escaping the stablecoin regulation before implementation as any criminal action is not punishable before law enactment. However it reminds me of something called Liberty dollar I think the creator was jailed but he was american, it was a short sentence and he is free now. It is some form of digital counterfeiting, quite bad. By the way all Vires investors you will not get your money back. Ivanov already did this before with something called WUSD and he blamed others for the failure and will this time too.

So now that we have a case for DeFi 1.0 implosion, perhaps the investor will be more open to buy vintage crypto art. The only thing from this foundational period that will have lasting value in my opinion. But it is not cheap. De Fi ponzi lasted longer than expected, they really tried to milk it until the end. Enraging that these criminals while comitting fraud also were sabotaging real valuable projects.

Things like this will not be easily forgotten.

But we are not quite at the edge of the abyss yet, let us see how Ivanov will play this 400m gambit. My guess he will save himself when he understands that waves in its current form is inoperable. The only way for him to do it is by nuking waves and USDN while putting 1bn short and then exit and stay cool for the bear cycle and return just in time for Defi ponzi 2.0 after btc halving.

The second option is by rerouting income into the neutrino protocol which they are attempting. In combination with staking the 400m USDN instead of liquidating it and using revenue to stabilize the network. I don't think it will work but it has never been tested so who knows. The organic revenue flow is thousand of times lower than ponzi apr that is being touted to lure investors and rob them.

Double top is off the table. Dead cat 34.6 and 6 usd first with some luck. Price at time of prediction: 8.5 (8:52 1/6)

A suiting end for a swindler with nine lives.

Nice prediction! I hope for you you acted like it
But do you really think it'll go much higher to $20 and even >$50? I think it depends too much on the overall market. If BTC goes to $40k then anything might be possible, but if it goes to $20k then also Waves will crash. I only see limited potential to really abuse the situation here.

If the BR can be reached then I don't see Waves/USDN with much problems anymore. Will there be a bankrun? I am not sure. People are locking their Stablecoins on Vires and most "paper hands" are out of their Vires deposits using vTokens...

With 70% intraday pump and 1.6bn volume it is not impossible that ivanov already covered the 400m short. 7 zone is multi cycle resistance level since 2017.

If the short is already covered then waves will dump below 50 cents and the double top case is abandoned, top is then 14-24.8 maybe some over extension if the top was not 7.65 today seems unlikely but tomorrow ivanov gains 400m usdn through vires transfer so it will be a wild day USDN depeg maybe 4-5:1 and in that case it is over for waves in this cycle.

Below 50 cents is factored but only in peak bear it was not expected yet although with these variables it can happen quicker. such as 400m short covered and stable coin regulation/usdn depeg.

Remember, if the 400m short is consumed the war chest is probably more than 1 billion excluding 400m usdn. A new short position will be opened but we don't know yet what price, 7.65 seems unlikely but it is an important cyclical price level. Ivanov and their henchmen will not be threatened by any buying competition in this market sentiment for a long time. Certaily not to attempt a short squeeze of 1 billion. the new multi billion short can be active for the entire bear market duration, many years.

Only something like wallstreetbets could realistically destroy their short plan.

x5 short on Binance is maxed out so there is or was heavy shorting going on and I suspect that waves will be decapitated soon. All these new token protocols made the incentive to hold waves much lower and USDN experiment will be going extinct, so waves will have zero USP and as such there is no bottom fundamentally.

No one in America will buy waves because it is Russian. Ivanov will be lucky to avoid prosecution at this stage. He should go as far as possible away from SEC jurisdiction but he did the opposite, very strange perhaps there is not awareness that what they are doing is unlawful.

For those who think 1 cent waves is impossible, look at the masternodes like Bulwark trading at 17 dollars in peak, today worth zero. Same with all the others and Defi in this state will be the same. There is a case for Defi but it became a ponzi so the government must step in and fix it. Until it is fixed it is crypto ice age.

Waves was saved by DeFi bubble in 2020 its trajectory was aiming for zero.

The problem is that waves team have no proficiency with financial instruments they are coders. So the consequence is constant market chaos.

It is worth a few thousand dollars to risk but nothing more until below 100m cap. If they somehow manage to turn this circus into success good but unlikely because they are the ones who are causing the damage either by incompetence or intent.

Ivanov also wants waves in top 10 so with 1 billion profit from short he may actually try and pump waves before the house of cards implodes. This will cost him hundred of millions so he is probably not this stupid as the money is needed soon for for legal team. They will be much better off shorting waves and disassemble USDN while they can before stablecoin regulation. If they pump the double top will come into play but there is no incentive to do it except the top 10 push which will not be sustained anyway because of the situation. It is too early to know but todays pump left me questioning if the short is already covered. The case for 57 is then diminished, higher probability of 50 cents immediately. It will not be a LUNA situation, they have too much central command both technically and economically.

Investor confidence is also gone so even if waves pumps to regain USDN backing it is not sustainable and they wont repay 400m tomorrow because there will be a bank run. This already happened on smaller scale with WUSD. It is their business model. Swindlers.

Its pumping now. Will it reach double top predicted by MarquiseMuseum?

this shit aint dead yet??

On target. The only whale who is manipulating this market for many years is Ivanov himself, he was exposed. So now that we know who it is we can interpret the market movements easily.

He will cover the 400m short back to 57 usd and cause super cycle double top, and then rek waves sub 50 cents in the long bear when USDN finally implodes.
This will for him generate many billions in market manipulation profit but it was already reported to SEC financial crimes division.

Maybe he thinks it is worth it. Maybe it is.

He will not repay 400m usdn by the way, he is using votes on vires to manipulate the governance protocol and depeg usdn and cause waves implosion.
This is what he was doing for many years since NXT and wusd and will blame regulation to avoid responsibility.

So the profit will be:

shorting 400m from 60 to 4.13
shorting double top to 50 cents, how many billions in war chest?
stealing 400m usdn and however much can be salvaged when depegging it, perhaps 100-200m.

Waves value without stablecoin is a few tens of millions so of course if he can generate billions in the meantime, who could resist such easy money?
Waves is also Russian and is at risk of facing problems with Binance and others because no dex KYC and russian sanctions. This is a longer term problem and this is something Ivanov can see already so for him this market manipulation is better than going back to zero.

People forgot about NXT and WUSD, so why not forget about USDN Vires scam? He was lucky so far.

 

It is not long time until 3 million IEO, please remain patient.

It is negotiating with several top exchanges the problem is obtaining 50k bootstrapping capital.

Anyone who is reading this can contribute with 50k USDT in exchange for NFT deposit worth 100k and you will receive bonus depending on success rate of this IEO which is worth 3 million if all 30 NFTs are sold out to the korean buyers.



This is the highest ranked offer so far but the listing deals are flowing in. Clearly these top ranked exchanges see monetizable value in this project but it is not possible to create IEO with 0 dollars.

Many people are involved in this and the 3 million will come to great benefit to many people and the charitable work of the Museum can also continue once the funding is complete. I have already helped a community in German Czech border with 10 000 USD since 2020 and will continue this charity work in South America, Africa and Asia. 50% of the 3 million is reserved for LTV for vault swappers inorder to provide DeFi liquidity. If there is aftermarket resale on Opensea the royalty settlements is as follow: 3% LTV liquidity, 3% Museum profit and Artist commission, 3% vault rich list airdrop.

https://opensea.io/collection/indian-nations-community-fund

I talked to Christies they dont accept, NEXO only takes Apes. It must be private money this 50k bootstrap. You get 100k NFT as collateral for loan duration and percentage on all IEO proceeds but not fantasy money, be realistic. This is high risk project understand that you can lose your money if the IEO fails. We will use 5k of this 50k and measure investor demand before spending the full amount, in hope of securing a pre order and grow out of pre rev start up phase. Once there is a sale the dynamics will flip in favor of the Museum. This is a completely unique ABT/NFT collection, nothing like it on the market, all value was minted in 2017 cant be replicated ever. But it is completely locked inside the Opensea NFTs the exchanges are making the IEO to monetize this illiquid asset after 5 years dormant state.

I predict that it will then catapult in value towards 1 billion and generationally outperform nasdaq 3:1 similar as Andy Warhol price performance on Campbells soup and Orange Marilyn 1960-1995

Already have certified 4 million USD appraisal:
https://docdro.id/d42ND6g

need 50k to monetize it with top 20 IEO the offer is on the table they are waiting for the money to finance the marketing and launchpad.

Well, if this rat's platform can not turn back my $500k within 2 years, then this toilet is a place for shit.

Check transaction text: https://wavesblockexplorer.com/tx/Fc17FGwFjUtnBeaPnqbcz9ToxGdeCALDKQ2fAhrZExmW

It's the same as this:


Xyйлo пpeдaлo нapoд CCCP.
Пpyф:
https://ipfs.io/ipfs/QmU19b1JqokECbvQGVrc2oXajVinJJXc6hBNEtWRz7ZkTD
https://ipfs.io/ipfs/QmcdKhNVD8j5hDAFfiKDjSASnFwnQ9yMaRqpHYqR4XQcUB

Who filed a complaint? Against whom (the Waves team)?
I agree with you that the whole Vires situation is pretty ugly, but (so far) unlike Terra/Luna not much money was lost by investors (Ok Waves is 90% down, but many cryptos are down similar amounts...). USDN is (still) pretty stable and Vires investors can get out via vTokens (with some losses). I think the outcry were much worse if they actually would "discontinue vires and usdn" and trap holders of those coins.
The whole system is slowly falling apart, let's see if they can turn it around. My current guess is, that they won't be able to do it by their newly introduced methods only. Maybe in a lucky turn of events we'll see some crypto rally pushing the Waves price high enough to save the system?

Stop the 400m waves short on binance and repay vires investors and any illicit gain from this market defrauding event. Then they should discontinue vires and usdn until investigation closes and best case there is a small fine instead of big problems in exchange for cooperating with authorities at an early stage and without any investor harm.

Do not attempt to solve it with any more bogus medium articles, you are making it much worse.

Step 2: hire good legal counsel.

Talk to authorities not me. A complaint was filed tonight.

You need to stop listening to blabbermouth and look at his actions instead.

For me the line in the sand was the comedian clown circus of gwx voting which is suppose to be a community vote and here is Sasha almighty killing all the community tokens from verification.

So who was behind the decisions in bettertokens? Ivanov

WA? Ivanov.

Everytime it is the same person behind the sabotage.

This guy alone costed my project a fortune in potential revenue.

5 years waiting, one of the original art cryptos with potentially huge unmonetized value? what did they do with it? tried to sabotage by waging ecnomic warfare against their own investors and community tokens. sick.

The hypocrisy of censoring them and calling them scam all the while being the greatest perpetrators of fraud themselves. It is a bona fide cause for warfare.

This is not my battle it is the vires investors who must take this to the next level but there is enough from me at this stage to join a complaint of market fraud simply driven by the WUSD scam in 2020 and the verification madness.

the dude belongs in jail and he is trying to smooth it over with the liquidation talk it is vapid and it is a lost cause because you will never see a penny of this 400m USDN. this was his modus operandi since many years simply look in this thread with the wall after wall of complaints by nxt and wusd investors. Now will join the party Vires investors.

400 million is a level that will register with police, it will not go unnoticed and the 60 usd to 4 usd short will also not pass. funds will be confiscated, he will be thrown in jail and waves delisted. twitter wont save him at this point. it is desperate. perhaps GRU will save him and he can sit hidden in Russia and spend this illicit billions but forget international travels...

credit for this should go to the goldman guys on twitter who alarmed the community about this exit.

IF this 400 million is repaid to investors then it is simply because he is scared shitless at this point to rob it, maybe understadning inside this criminal skull that he will be utterly fucked if he takes it. But my guess is that he will find an excuse to keep this money such as regulation news or something else.

In order to finance the liquidation waves short must be covered so waves will pump to 60 usd. I have never seen anything of this level of market manipulation, it is unbelievable that he thinks this will go unnoticed jesus christ.

or is the plan to "release" the 400m to ivanov without any collateral? lol.

these douche bags may be tech wizards used to everybody swallowing their bs and sometimes cool inventions. But for finance pros what ivanov is doing now is like 5 years old child, it is very bad for him to go into something he does not understand which is finance. especially with this street level scam history nxt and wusd it could not make him look any worse taking aim at 400m vires capital and nuking waves by shorting it and all the while denying all of it. its scary and its a fucking train wreck. donning kruger hard at play.

The best advice is for waves team to report itself to the authorities for unintentional malpractice and hire a good lawyer. if they argue incompetence maybe there is a chance of getting away with heavy fines instead of prison. Mens rea. But they must stop trying to fix this problem because everyday it will only grow and get worse. They are out of their element completely. the more they publish on twitter and medium the more culpable they look and police will harvest all of this material for the investigation.

So you missed his Twitter thread about this or did not fully understand it.

Ivanov will be special guest on Interpol redlist soon.

He is now voting to liquidate 400m USDN with a majority Vires stake which will not be repaid to community and this will also depeg USDN massively while he is shorting using 400m USDC/USDT.

Waves might completeply implode soon below 50 cents and Binance delisting.

It does look very bad for this guy.

There were many red flags with NXT and WUSD, we tried to tell you but no one cared, only greed.

In my opinion, only Vintage NFTs will have long store of value from this crypto era. Museum market cap soon above waves...

Option number 1 does not look good for Ivanov, so I think option 2, 57 usd short cover is the more probable with terminal bottom in 4 zone maybe liquidation cascade first 50 cents

What Sasha will gain from Option 2?

1. Short profit with 400m short from 60 usd, how much? 1 billion?

2. Community hero for liquidating 400m usdn back to vires investors.

3. Top global crypto market cap as waves will go up x15-x150 while everything else already tanked.

40k USD waiting for ivanovs next move, 50 cents waves? 80k waves ok thanks the Museum accepts.

Museum shorts are 500 waves 13.7 usd, 7000 waves 3.4 usd.

Save this post because it is right on the money and will probably be deleted.

This is not speculation simply look at the poster above me, waves team are telling the story of this scam out loud on purpose or not I don't know. There is still time to salvage this circus but it will be expensive, so there must be a short cover back to 57 usd to use profits and pay the 400m usdn liquidation.

Even with all this new money shorting at -95% is quite sketchy, there are other big fishes out there waiting to bite at this range. Like Goldman Sachs who unraveled the fud at 64 usd peak. They have more money than Ivanov. His 1 billion profit can be eaten in a few hours. Then the Americans will have minority stake in Russias big crypto bet.

Or maybe we should spread this whale short to wall street bets community? and let them know about the complete setup. I think they will enjoy wrecking this scam.


Update 1:
I am requesting this post to be published in WSB crypto section to liquidate sashas 1 billion short from 60 usd.

This scheme will also be sent to Interpol and SEC financial crimes division