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From todays 33650, 2117, 14.2 0.0212 (BTC, ETH, WAVES, TN)

Presumably wave 4 terminus is -25% from these prices per 2021-07-11 and I expect this bottom within 1-2 weeks.

Final w4 prices are:

25 200

1550~

10.65

0.0159

Wave 5 will commence upon ETF trigger/Corona mutation and lockdown #3 possibly by october/november

Price projection is x17 from w4 bottom but there is no time horizon presumably around new year similar to 2017 peak:

BTC: $428 000
ETH: $25 000
WAVES: $181
TN: $0.27

I think Waves and TN will go beyond x17 multiple and target as such for W5 is instead:

Waves: $300-$360
TN: $0.6-$34

After Wave 5 completion I think there will be a major shift in blockchain technology and focus on fortune 500 migration and Nasdaq/Government digital currencies and this will mark the end of parabolic rise of private sector cryptos because this apex value is migrated and will not flow into private sector. In combination with this major shift in global economic affairs, a new blockchain will emerge with some form of AGI infrastructure and this will become the true world brain of the 21st century which will permit acceleration of humanity in a few decades up to 2050's comparable to the past 10 000 years of evolution, aka Virtual Singularity.

It is possible that there is a major depression inbetween these events.

So 1-2 more years bull market in slower tempo (after x17 mid term parabola) followed by plateau during fiat transition (2023-2024). Then negative trigger circa 2023-2026 (but not required) and then the big breakthrough in AGI after 2028 in line with Vernor Vinges Turing prediction.

Presumably the negative 2023-2026 trigger will be fiat collapse after Elite systems migrate to blockchain. This will cause very big problems for mainstream late comers but ultimately there will be UBI implemented for everyone backed by blockchain and Androids which is the prelude and bridge to AGI government which is the true emerging civilization which will turn this universe into magic using virtual reality and augmented reality.
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I think this whole WAVES DUCK GAME is only a fancy fog machine that cover up that the gamechanger GravityHUB is dead (btw. the Gravitron move to other blockchain), and the Sasha dont have any futer idea for WAVES ecosystem, look at the amount of the transactions on  https://wavesexplorer.com/ , almoust nobody use this tech  Cry

What is the status of waves native:

It is:

Diluted by DeFI token Swop because team chose to create new token instead of using waves for DeFi. As such Waves native is not useful for anything DeFi related

Needed to produce USDN which is a gateway token into DeFi. There is already alot of USDN in circulation so the need for waves native is reduced because others already did the job of minting USDN

Needed for exchange and transfer fees however that does not justify 2 billion market cap, maybe few hundred million at most probably much less

Needed for 6% APY staking but there are many other DeFi options with much lower initial deposit and much higher APY so Waves is not able to compete in passive income bracket

Needed for token creation service and market making in token/waves pairings which is the main markets in the dex. Anyone who is using waves for this purpose is better to mint tokens on waves and keep funds in TurtleNetwork for liquidity because it is the same technilogy behind it, but valuation is much lower and DeFi APY on Swop is 117% instead of 6%

It seems Waves is also not needed for the NFT EGG trading

So the only merit for 2 billion market cap is Binance futures speculation which is a bad fundamental to justify this price level

Investors who choose to allocate alot of money into waves native in the present must understand exactly what is its limit

I don't know if waves is used for all background operations of NFT or DeFi but it seems transactions are running on EGGs and SWOP?

It appears waves was heavily accumulated below 1 USD and liquidated by team after big pump and funds used for spin offs

I think there is confusion by retail investors exactly what is waves use case today. It is important to research this type of investment but it can be difficult if there is no explanations or obfuscation, or if there was use case such as USDN minting but that this use case was eroded or reduced for reasons explained.

Crypto is a dynamic and complex investment vehicle and it is easy to lose alot of money from unforseen or not clearly comprehended pitfalls



 
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I think this whole WAVES DUCK GAME is only a fancy fog machine that cover up that the gamechanger GravityHUB is dead (btw. the Gravitron move to other blockchain), and the Sasha dont have any futer idea for WAVES ecosystem, look at the amount of the transactions on  https://wavesexplorer.com/ , almoust nobody use this tech  Cry
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I once bet 100 Bitcoins on a 1:2 chance and lost.
The Nano Ledger doesn't have its own blockchain. Its seed encodes the seeds for your addresses for the supported cryptos. If you use it with Waves then the Nano handles your Waves seed and you don't have a direct access to it.
Can anyone confirm all this?  So using it with the nano ledger... is your waves seed no good anymore?

I can confirm this. You get a new address. The old seed is still working of course, just not for the Ledger Nano S account.
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Also do people here store their waves in the waves_exchange wallet or do most of you use it with the nano ledger s?  Im confused with this as i read if you store waves in nano ledger s, you need to use it with the
waves-exchange wallet together.  Can someone explain this?  So when you have waves in your nano ledger s... does that mean the waves seed you have... is no use?  Im confused because where are your waves now stored if you send it to nano ledger s?  The waves blockchain or nano ledger s blockchain?
From my understanding (disclaimer: I don't own a Nano Ledger):

The Nano Ledger doesn't have its own blockchain. Its seed encodes the seeds for your addresses for the supported cryptos. If you use it with Waves then the Nano handles your Waves seed and you don't have a direct access to it.


Can anyone confirm all this?  So using it with the nano ledger... is your waves seed no good anymore?
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I once bet 100 Bitcoins on a 1:2 chance and lost.
waves what kinda technologies were these ones

Leased Proof of Stake, LPoS.
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 waves what kinda technologies were these ones
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suggestion:

Let investors choose what amount of tokens or USDN to stake in swop fi pools.

Now it is 50/50 automatically, but sometimes it is better for example 10% token 1 and 90% token 2, or 25/75 etc or even 1%/99%

The benefit with flexible system is not to lose from impermanent loss if price of crypto goes up, and also to take easy profit if price goes up by switching to 99% USDN/1% Token while still benefitting from the APY.

I think this will increase trading volume in swop fi because of the flexible staking method.

I think Uniswap or some other already have this option.
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Also do people here store their waves in the waves_exchange wallet or do most of you use it with the nano ledger s?  Im confused with this as i read if you store waves in nano ledger s, you need to use it with the
waves-exchange wallet together.  Can someone explain this?  So when you have waves in your nano ledger s... does that mean the waves seed you have... is no use?  Im confused because where are your waves now stored if you send it to nano ledger s?  The waves blockchain or nano ledger s blockchain?
From my understanding (disclaimer: I don't own a Nano Ledger):

The Nano Ledger doesn't have its own blockchain. Its seed encodes the seeds for your addresses for the supported cryptos. If you use it with Waves then the Nano handles your Waves seed and you don't have a direct access to it.
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Also do people here store their waves in the waves_exchange wallet or do most of you use it with the nano ledger s?  Im confused with this as i read if you store waves in nano ledger s, you need to use it with the
waves-exchange wallet together.  Can someone explain this?  So when you have waves in your nano ledger s... does that mean the waves seed you have... is no use?  Im confused because where are your waves now stored if you send it to nano ledger s?  The waves blockchain or nano ledger s blockchain?
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Okay so been a while since i checked the waves_exchange client and have quite bit of questions.




So im staking some waves now as i did a while back and see 6% staking and seem to get waves sent to me every week.



I see usdn where you can trade waves for it.  Is usdn a stablecoin like usdt or usdc where its flat one dollar regardless? 


The thing that is confusing here is at the bottom it says you stake usdn and get 12% to 15%   If so, i see you could stake usdn now and it shows interest of 18.67%.  Is that annual interest?  If so, how is that even possible?



Example if one person has 10,000 dollars worth of waves now and trades it for usdn... they get around 10,000 usdn minus trading fees right?  And i see the fees are literally like 15 cents or so?  It literally shows the transaction to swap waves for usdn is 0.005 waves fee.  But i see there is also a protocol fee... so is that another fee you pay?  So imagine trading 10000 usd worth of waves... how much would you get in usdn?



So that would mean if someone has say 10000 usdn and stake it the entire year they going to earn 1200 usdn or so at least by the end of one year?  So now their balance is 11200 usdn?  Thus imagine doing this with 100,000 usdn... you going to earn 12000 usdn a year?  Then with that balance, you could convert that 12000 usdn to usdt... that send that usdt to coinbase or exchange to convert it to fiat and then to your bank account.  Am i making any mistake here?  But this is with using 12% yearly interest but right now... its 18.67%?  But that number changes throughout the days and weeks right?  But it doesn't get lower than 12%? 



If that is the case, couldn't someone with 1,000,000 dollars literally just earn 120,000 usdn a year and then convert that to usdt... then convert it to fiat to coinbase and back to their bank account?  I know those sites like blockfi, celsius offers you interest like that on stablecoins like usdt and usdc etc... so the waves exchange does it as well with usdn?  And USDN is basically a stablecoin of a dollar and never changes?



Can anyone confirm this?




Are people here buying usdn and staking it?  This seems ridiculous that one can literally earn at least 12% yearly interest with it right now as passive income?  I mean 50k usd earns you 6k.  Someone who has a ton of money like 500k would earn 60k usdn yearly?  Then they can easily convert that usdn to usdt/btc and then to fiat?


If so, how come there isn't much talk about the waves exchange compared to say blockfi/nexo/celsius?

yes, it is true and it is working. There is just not much marketing going on and no attention to Waves



Are people here staking usdn and usdc/usdt on waves wallet?  Can someone explain in dollar terms how much they earn staking on this in waves?


Example l0000 dollars and put it for a year.  How much you get back in one year if you stake usdn?  usdt?  usdc?  For usdt and usdc, i know you get usdtLP and usdcLP but not sure how you calculate it?
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